Brandon albert free agent!

Would be a nice move by Hickey to begin righting the wrong.

 

Generally they fail for most teams

 

Maybe Philbin will get his wish on Albert with this GM

 

10+ million for Albert, no thank you.

 

Huge mistake not pulling the trigger last year, but Ireland and Sparano were notorious for effing up that line. The fact that Philbin had no confidence in putting any of his back-ups in is more troubling considering he kept a ton of them...But yeah, get him

 

He'll be overpriced, but even if he's underperforming, he be a big upgrade.

 

pay the man. i dont care if he'll come with a huge price tag. since we dont know how to coach our own offensive linemen, we need to get them from other teams. get proven players who dont need much coaching because we sure as hell wont coach them up. as long as philbin is here, build through free agency.

 

He's going to cost 10? That's a lot of moolah. How many years you (anyone) think he will want? Sure would be nice to have that left side shored up.

 

Signing Albert for 10 million probably means we wont be able to sign one of our own free agents like Solai etc .Draft picks are a lot cheaper

 

I say draft one. Save the money for other needs.

 

I would think he would be an obvious target for us, if he gets a crazy deal from someone so be it but drafting a guy and signing some cheap talent and hoping for the best seems wishful thinking at best. We rolled the dice in the last offseason thinking we could fill the gaps on the line cheaply or with draft picks and it obliterated an entire season so its not the best option to me.

 

well we rolled the dice because we thought we had the guys on the team (only drafted 1 olineman last season). I fully expect at least 3 olineman drafted this year, im not against going as high as 5. Having to rely on Sam Brenner was pure lunacy. We need starters and backups. Hopefully Dallas Thomas felt that nfl dream slipping away last year and works his *** off and gets on the field. I just can't believe how desperate it got last year.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwEIjbfOHD0

 

No thanks. At least as a first option. His price tag is too high. He's not young. We need 3 more lineman in addition to LT, as well as the money needed to sign our own (potentially) expensive free agents. They're other quality FA T's available, too.

I liked the idea I read the other day here. Sign someone like the Bengals T Anthony Collins (who many fans here on TP seem to like, a lot) that...

- Is cheaper
- Is younger
- Has the flexibility to play quality left and right tackle,
- Gives Miami flexibility in the draft, should a quality LT fall to them @ 19.

This idea strikes me as a 'work smarter, not harder" approach. After last season's big money spendin' free agent flops, working smarter would be appreciated.

 

Signing high priced FA because the LAST GUY we had couldn't draft an OL that can start, makes no sense to me. The last guy is gone.

If THIS guy thinks he can get quality OL in the draft, then do it. If it works, we will be better for it, for a much longer time.

I'm almost always in favor of building through the draft. This is one of those times.

 

I'd rather go with Anthony Collins on a mid-level deal or rent Jordan Gross for a year, provided he doesn't retire. I'd keep an eye on Jason Peters as well.

At worst, if Collins doesn't pan out at left tackle, he has played RT fairly well when called upon and beats the pants off of Nate Garner as a swing tackle.

 

THIS guy only has a 2 year contract and quite frankly hes really only got the one offseason to make things work.

 

He only played a full 16 game season once. We sign him, he gets hurt, but some will still be shocked. We went down this road in 2008. Pass. We should sign and draft better, healthier options.

 

I do not believe that the coaching staff will want a rookie LT. If not Albert, it will be some vet.

 

I think we have to get at least one oline starter from FA. It's not realistic to draft 4 starting online in one draft.

id just go for the best value you can find and even consider bringing back McKinnie for a year and another FA olineman. We need some damn athletes in the interior.

 

Teams that win don't have 3-4 spots on the offensive line that they have to fill in one offseason either. It is what it is, we can either draft a bunch of linemen and hope for the best or sign a few guys that are proven starters. We aren't in a position to wait a few years for players to develop, we are trying to make a playoff push, the line needs to be upgraded. No one is saying to overpay for Albert but if we can get him reasonably, why not?

 

You never pass up a starting LT as long as the price tag, both short and long term, is not exorbitant. I have a feeling the bidding for Albert is going to be crazy, though.

Still, you can always structure the deal to be cap-friendly. Deals with big guarantees are easy on the cap and only become onerous if the guy doesn't work out and you have to jettison him with multiple years left. Albert seems like a guy who would be worth the risk.

 

While I'd like Albert, I'd love if we snuck in and signed Monroe while people are clamoring for Albert.

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Both?

Shore up both T spots, sign McKinnie for the minimum as a vet backup, and you go into the draft as a total wild card as far as other teams are concerned. And that helps if you want to deal.

Really, with $34M cap plus the ability to jigger some contracts to make even more space, why not take them where you can get them? Use the first round to get a playmaker, a difference-maker, then use the second and third days of the draft to build depth and development on the OL.

 

This has been my big fear all along. There's no such thing as a "prove it" deal with NFL GM's. Judging a draft class after one season is problematic, Hickey's draft can't help/hurt him. Which means getting free agents who can contribute immediately becomes the sole criteria which to judge. Given the amount of cap space and the pressure Hickey and Philbin are under to win now, I'm worried that we're going all in.

 

Why not?
- Because Alpert and Monroe are going to cost around 20 million per year for both.
- Alpert is solid, but an unspectacular LT. Monroe is better suited for LT short and long term. KC wanted to move him to G where his current skill set would be better utilized but he refuses to be anything but a LT.
- There are cheaper and arguably better options. Especially in run blocking, where Alpert struggles.

 

LT isn't really as crucial as it was 5-10 years ago. We need to spread our resources at over the entire line instead of spending big on a LT. We need run blocking as sorely as we need pass protection.

 

this team is a playoff team with an okay offensive line. Im okay with going for it because if Tannehill makes the progression that i personally think hes capable of, we're going to be a much improved team assuming his line isn't **** again.

 

I am not so sure this draft is deep at left tackle. Not for ones who could start and play well as rookies. Hope that the team is more interested in Monroe or Collins though. Albert seems more injury prone to me.

 

Much easier said than done to get a decent LT at 19.

 

I was fully onboard with going all out after Albert then filling the rest of the line in the draft, but if the price gets too crazy it's just not worth it. Worst comes to worst we can just resign McKinnie to a cheap 1 year deal.

 

Add some hookers & strippers to the deal and I bet McKinnie signs with us again.

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Prefer Anthony Collins or Eugene Monroe...however those two may not be available.

There's now some chatter about the Bengals trying to keep Collins and I know the Ravens have intended to bring Monroe back the whole time. We already know that the Raiders are very likely to bring back Jared Veldheer before he hits market.

Generally speaking the best options don't actually make it to the market. They get re-signed by their teams because they know they're good. It's possible Branden Albert becomes the only one that hits market.

If that's the case I'd strongly consider sending a pick to the Eagles for Matt Tobin rather than spending $10 million a year on Albert.

I would also look at bringing Andrew Gardner back to Miami where he was originally drafted. Miami now has Houston's OL coach so he may be open to the idea. Gardner also played very well during the preseason.

If you recall, Gardner played in Georgia Tech's triple option offense and was a two-time All-ACC 1st team performer, in addition to running a 4.96 at 6'7" and 304 lbs. He also had a 8'11" broad jump and 30.5" vertical. He was a good at Georgia Tech but it was obvious that coming from the offense he came from he was going to take some time to get refined. That may have happened in Houston under the coaching of the guy Miami just hired.

 

Yup like CK says. No way the Ravens let Monroe get away. It would be a hell of a price to pay for a one season rental and still have to find a LT again.

Too bad though. I'm a big Monroe fan.