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Players wants out!!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan40, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. dolfan40

    dolfan40 Well-Known Member

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    Adam Beasley has been told that several Dolphins players have already privately expressed that they want out of this situation. Real consequences coming.
     
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  2. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Sorry Brent, we got a franchise tag for ya!
     
  3. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    What the hell does this whole thing have to do with the players?
     
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  4. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Whoa, who would have seen this coming?
     
  5. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    What does it mean "real consequences".

    The atmosphere around every story on this team os so negative nowadays.

    Hope this is just an exagerrated report and one or two FAs are basically saying they wanna sign somewhere else. Though thats not so good either.
     
  6. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    hell, they are part of the problem. there is not one LEADER among them. there is not one LEADER in this whole organization. this is why we are where we are.
     
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  7. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    ludicrous
    there are always players that want out & privately express it.

    and it will be so with every franchise, forever & ever... amen!

    who would seriously listen to Adam Beasley?
    the hack is once again in the "privately expressed" mode, think about it.

    this forum is beginning to resemble the gossip papers/magazines placed near the check-out of the grocery store... short on fact, heavy on unsubstantiated opinion & sensationalism :yes:

    simply comic-book :couch: scandalous! (lol)
     
  8. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    That's because Philbin likes his guys to "keep their mouth shut"
     
  9. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Shouldn't surprise anyone.
     
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  10. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    And Franchise they should

    I will check

    Grimes had a 1 yr deal. That's right he was hurt.

    **** him. Trade him. Philbin hates guys that talk, so he may just get his wish
     
  11. bigbry

    bigbry Huge Member

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    Believe he was signed to a one year deal. Prove yourself or be gone.
     
  12. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    your too fast brother
     
  13. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    FWIW, here's what Omar said about this:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly13 min
    RT @Jeff722 heard players were ready to leave situation? > Players play for money. Nobody gives two poops what they think.


    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly12 min
    All 53 players on an NFL team are their own franchise, have their own agenda and team. Players are USUALLY self serving and have agendas.


    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly11 min
    To be completely honest, the only player whose opinion I'd value is Brent Grimes. And even he doesn't have much say with the FRANCHISE TAG.

    And I pretty much agree with all of it.
     
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  14. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    We're beyond a joke at this point, we're an embarrassment to the league.
     
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  15. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    The stuff from Omar and the other comments about this not being a big deal is nonsense. It is a big deal. It's pretty simple logic:

    The quality of the organization does matter to players. They want to win. Of course, they want their money. But, all else being equal, they also want to play for a quality franchise. So, if someone is willing to pay Starks or Soliai or other free agents equal money that Miami is - they will bolt.

    Sure, if Miami wants to pay well over market value, then they will stay. But, are any of you really willing to part with big bucks - above market value - to keep those guys? Didn't think so.

    So, yes, it does matter that players want out.

    And, then, to get players in, Miami will have to pay an extra premium on top of just barely outbidding someone. It is a problem.

    The same problem that kept GMs from coming in.
     
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  16. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    yep organization means nothing to players good thing Peyton manning felt that way i guess
     
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  17. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    EXACTLY.

    A GOOD organization can:

    - Attract top tier talent
    - That talent wants to WIN, not just get paid. Consequently after you pay them they still play very hard and you win more.
    - Get the same talent for less money, because players will take less to play for a great team than a crappy team



    A BAD organization:
    - Cannot attract players who care about winning first (usually the best players)
    - Has to overpay free agents to play for them (this includes re-signing players)
    - Once overpaid, these players don't care since they didn't join a bad team to try to win, but only to cash in… so the team lses more and gets bad return on investments
     
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  18. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    I'd be willing to bet that Miami now has less player appeal than frigid places like Green Bay or Minnesota. Our draft picks are probably going to be disappointed when Goodell calls their name on our behalf.
     
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  19. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Hit the nail right on the head
     
  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    HOFer whose already worth millions coming off severe neck injury looking to win a super bowl immediately...bit of a one off situation wouldn't you agree?

    Players go where the money is.
     
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  21. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    grimes should be happy after the contract TB gave revis.
     
  22. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    the one that guaranteed him 0 dollars?

    players don't like those contracts
     
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  23. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Ross has already issued a directive that the team is to do whatever it takes to retain Grimes. He'll be back.
     
  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    :sidelol: Wallace turned down more money from the Vikings to sign with Miami.
     
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  25. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    To be fair he said "now" not last offseason. I'm not disagreeing with you though.
     
  26. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    He signed with the team that had by far the most cap room and hence able to offer the biggest contract. End of story.
     
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  27. A player mutiny would be epic
     
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  28. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Replacing Ireland with Hickey may be an improvement, maybe not. Very likely at least a push. I fail to see how that is enough of a change to make Miami have less appeal than they already may have had compared to cold weather locations, or cause the draft picks to be disappointed being drafted by Miami.
     
  29. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I think that boils down to personal perception. I think I'd rather have Ireland but I'm going to give Hickey a chance to prove me wrong. Im going into this draft and season with no expectations of his performance.
     
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  30. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I just want to thank the original poster for adding the -s to "Want" in his thread title that I forgot to add.
     
  31. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Prbly Ireland guys like Hartline.
     
  32. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    We can only pray Ellerbe and Wheeler were 2 of 'em.
     
  33. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    True? Had not seen/heard that. He plays w/ so much heart. Love that guy.
     
  34. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Unfortunately they don't have a choice but to stay, 22million tied to both those players in dead money. We have to keep them.
     
  35. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    It was based on our obvious attempt to win the "most embarrassing franchise" award, as well as the report that even our own players are trying escape the shipwreck that is now the Miami Dolphins.

    It was also a joke though, but apparently we're just taking everything seriously right now.
     
  36. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    You've shown in two threads that you aren't quite up on dead money as a concept. Dead money is the cost of cutting someone before their contact us up. Essentially, whatever guaranteed money hasn't been paid out. A one year deal won't cause dead money. As long as a player is rostered, there's no dead money involved.

    Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk
     
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  37. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What a day. On a day that should be kind of a celebration, or at worse, keep everyone hoping, this has been a completely chaotic day with pros and cons and doom and gloom, and some optimism on top. We have what we have. Time to focus on getting some things right without all the hoopla.
     
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  38. I understand how the players feel as a fan I too want out
     
  39. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I didn't know he had a one year deal. I was confusing him with Wallace. Thanks for the intended HELP
     
  40. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    That is a sensible, logical approach. I cannot understand these fans whom because they did not want Hickey, rather than hoping for the best, hope for the season to be a total disaster, so Ross will have to fire him, Philbin, etc. I wasn't a big fan of Farmer as a potential GM, but if he'd been hired I'd be 100% supportive of him until he proved that in the role of Dolphins GM he wasn't capable.

    Whatever Hickey did while working in TB does not matter now. All that matters is what he does from here forward. I hope he does great. Not saying he will but I sure as gawd damn hell ain't going to be hoping for utter failure simply because he wasn't the guy I wanted hired as GM.

    It seems some posters here would rather see the team fail and they be right, than see the team succeed and they be wrong. Not mentioning any names, but they know who they are.
     
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