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Sports Buzz: Dolphins owner thinks about hiring football czar

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Though owner Stephen Ross loves Tony Dungy and gave thought to hiring a football czar who would oversee over his GM, he knew luring Dungy wasn’t realistic, and he decided not to give Carl Peterson the job, even though a friend said Peterson would be interested.

    “I have not had any conversation with the Dolphins about a position with their organization, nor do I intend to do so,” Dungy said this week. “…I have retired from the NFL and will not be returning in any capacity.”

    So instead of a football czar choosing a GM, Ross is doing it himself, and as of early afternoon Friday, had candidates remaining from only losing franchises (his own, Tennessee, Tampa Bay), with four candidates having declined interviews and a fifth (Ray Farmer) declining a follow-up interview. And so it goes.

    But internal candidate Brian Gaine is respected around the league, and his chances increase at least somewhat with Farmer's decision not to pursue the job further. If Lake Dawson gets the job, Peterson's influence would again be apparent; he drafted Dawson and thinks highly of him.


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  2. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    At this point, I'd seriously consider taking the guy who is prepared for a flood:

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    Over the guy who can sleep standing up:

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  3. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    At what point, does he start to rethink things!?! It's pretty clear that a lot of the top GM candidates aren't interested in the job because of the structure he's put in place.

    I'm starting to think the biggest problem with this team is our clueless owner.
     
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  4. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I think they have no choice but to offer Dawson the job. It is the Peterson connection.

    In order to save face Ross can't offer the job to Gaine. But he will give him a fat raise.

    I could be wrong though Ross is still ****ed up enough to just give it to Gaine.

    I just don't think he will because it will appear we settled and Ross won't go there...I think
     
  5. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    There really are only two words to post about the Dolphins anymore:

    Total Disaster.
     
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  6. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Well, it was worth a try and bringing in Dungy would have brought in respectability in the organization. I think we still need to bring in Jason and Zach in at some capacity.
     
  7. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Or Dan Marino. He's actually expressed interest in getting involved. I'm not sure JT or ZT have - if they did, I missed it.
     
  8. Aquafin

    Aquafin New Member

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    the poor house
    right now I rather have Lamar Thomas running this team then MR Ross and Lamar was a clown so that tells you how far we have fallen.

    people were dog cussing Dave Wannstedt and all he did was win games and his players did off the field charity work while Philbin's players go to golf courses and hunch on the women and embarrass this franchise .
     
  9. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    It's a shame Ross has such such allegiance to his replaceable contract negotiator/capologist b/c firing her would be a great good-faith gesture to lure in the best remaining GM candidates by showing he's serious about not getting in their way and to squash the concerns about any potential conflict of power. From there the new GM should be able to fire Philbin & Gaine if he so desires.

    I'd like to know if Ross even asked the candidates who rejected us what it would take to hire them, and if so, what their answers were. Armando, Omar, I know you read our forum to help write your columns, so can you at least do us a solid and find these answers out? Thx in advance.
     
  10. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I honestly think the only good faith measure it would have taken to prevent some of this would be to make it clear in the interviews that Dawn Aponte would report to the GM. Or they could take her off the cap, contracts and budget altogether and make her Football Administration only, promoting someone from her department and placing that person under the GM.

    Firing her isn't really necessary, IMO. It's the lack of clarity and potential for problems that has these guys scared.
     
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  11. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    What's crazy is that by all accounts Aponte is awesome at her job. They've just created a situation where they've given power to a position that shouldn't have power.
     
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  12. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Ck..are you feeling as negative about how this has all unfurled as alot of us are? Farmer turning down that second interview was really an eye opener for me.

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  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I think the Dolphins are broken and they need a highly public solution in order to fix the situation. Half of the problem is perception based but perceptions have a way of becoming reality especially when you're being turned down left and right by qualified people based on those perceptions.
     
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  14. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I cant understand how a man with Billions of dollars at his disposal..doesnt pay what it takes to put someone in place to fix this mess. You know..I was thinking about thia the other day. Ross is not a football guy. He doesnt make football decisions. Yet..he obviously made one in keeping Philbin. We want the best talent evaluator in a GM. Well...who evaluated Philbin? Why not get the best who can evaluate the job the coach did? I see road blocks Ross he himself has put in place that actually prohibit him from hiring the best.

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  15. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    I think if you bring JT and Zach in a co management role, you got two very smart, professional and former Dolphins that will overlook and see things, advise things to Ross. They don't need to have ultimate power yet, but people will see there's some sort of professionalism in the organization. They were strong leaders on the field, we now need them to be strong leaders in Davie/front office and become a voice.
     
  16. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    IDK, even by doing what you mentioned in the first paragraph, I think Aponte would still fall under the underlined part considering she doesn't want to report to the GM and considering Ross has already sided once with her on this issue, going so far as promoting her and giving her a raise instead. He clearly has an affinity for her, so what's to say he won't go back on his word in the future and give Aponte more power like he did when Ireland took over when she was supposed to report to him, and what's to say Ross won't be influenced by her again regardless of her title like he was from her about Ireland?

    IMO the problem is, regardless of what's written on paper or is promised during interviews, GM candidates have to worry in the back of their mind about Ross being influenced by Aponte & Peterson which he has a track record of doing so and which might serve to undermine the GM.
     
  17. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Seriously, pay Marino to drink all day and draft quarterbacks only and I'm happy. I don't care who we draft or sign. Unless Tannehill makes that jump, we're not about to win a Super Bowl. If he makes that jump, we can probably win with what we have.
     
  18. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Thanks for making an actual point for others to think about instead of a post like all the others that just say "Omg Aponte is ruining us. Omg We suck"

    Not saying I agree, but at least this is a solid post.
     
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  19. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Pretty much.

    From a potential GM's perspective the Dolphins have a decent amount of talent, a young roster, plenty of cap space, a solid QB young, all of their draft picks, one game out of the playoffs, you have to come in wondering why the last GM was fired in the first place. And if the same thing might happen to you.
     
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  20. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Right. Perception is all that matters, and at the moment the perception from GM candidates is that they don't know if they can trust Ross as an owner or by his word. That's why I think firing Aponte would be a quick way to change that negative perception. It'd immediately open everyones' eyes around the league that Ross is serious about his new GM and likely means what he says about giving him control.

    By telling candidates during the interview process that they won't have to worry about Aponte [like you mentioned in your prior post], it only reaches those specific candidates. By firing her it reaches the entire NFL and could open a few doors that previously weren't open or had recently been closed.
     
  21. DA-Phins

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    "I think the Dolphins are broken and they need a highly public solution in order to fix the situation. Half of the problem is perception based but perceptions have a way of becoming reality especially when you're being turned down left and right by qualified people based on those perceptions." (CKParrot, 1-24-14)

    What would the perception be if we signed Caserio from New England? He has been with N.E. for a while and the personnel guy since 08, wouldn't that help our perception if he left New England (which is a great organization) to come to Miami, even with Aponte there?
     
  22. Lee2000

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    What kind of public solution? Re-structure? Gesture to fans? Would you hire a PR firm?
     
  23. My personal opinion is that Philbin jis the biggest deterant to potential GMs. While the other stuff is not an ideal situation I think its more about they can not win with Philbin and Philbin being untouchable
     
  24. finwin

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    WTF is everyone worried about? A guy coming in and picking 7 rookies. WTF have the Yahoo fantasy auto draft do it? Bunch of effin cry babies. We need leadership on the team and that starts with Philbin and the players not the GM.
     

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