I don't even think what Crabtree said was even that bad. Sherman is just a jackass. I guess he just needs to create ways for extra motivation. Man, I hope Peyton destroys them.
He sure crapped his pants against the Jets' defense which was average for the most part this season AT HOME with the playoffs on the line. And last year is last year, the Seahawks are much better now than last year.
Yes, he did choke like the rest of the team. But I'd still take him over Kaepernick without question.
yeah the whole team melted down no doubt, but tannehill had to carry the team the whole year. wilson/kapernick cannot nearly say the same. they had games where they only had to attempt 15 or 16 passes a game. tannehill had 2 games where he attempted less than 30 passes. russell wilson had 3 games where he attempted 30 passes or more. tannehill had an average of almost 37 attempts a game compared to wilson's 25 and kapernicks 26. if tannehill had a back at the level of lynch or gore, that could chew up 5+ yards a carry and tannehill had to only throw 20-25 times he would look much better. tannehill cant though since it is all on him. when kapernick and wilson had to throw it was awful, i would love to see kapernick and wilson have to air it out 43 times a game. i think wilson is going to be a very good qb, but i think qb's like tannehill and luck are going to really benefit by being in the pocket and having to have the games/teams on their shoulders.
As often as Sherman is modest and dishes out credit elsewhere, including frequently being complimentary toward opponent receivers, I don't have a problem with him being heated up immediately following the game while the emotions of a SB birth are running high and especially considering it was a battle against his arch rival and with Crabtree running his mouth and shoving Sherman's face just moments before Erin Andrews caught up with him. Personally, I think it's a little unfair to expect him to go from full on gladiator mode with the blood coursing through his veins b/c of the stuff with Crabtree to suddenly becoming a calm, level-headed individual, especially when you factor in his inherently strong attitude and high level of confidence is a part of what makes him such a great player. He's a passionate guy who has worked his butt off to become the best in the game, and as such he's earned the right to slip up in the heat of the moment and brag about being the best.
Crabtree [a heated rival] shoved Sherman's face a few minutes before he was grabbed for the interview. Crab talked smack all game and when Sherman dished out the final jab after breaking up the pass to end it, Crab pushed his face away like a lil ***** who wants to run his mouth but doesn't wanna listen to it in return after getting his *** handed to him. I couldn't disagree more with calling him a jackass, but that's the great thing about having opinions. IMO he's a class act, and as such he should warrant some leeway in the persecution department if he happens to slip up.... unless you're suggesting you yourself never slips so you're less tolerant of anyone else doing so.
Even after the loss and getting bossed by Sherman in the endzone, Crabtree still insists on running his mouth and looking like an idiot in the process: ....and LOL at Sherman's response. Classic. Apparently Sherman's post game moment served its purpose b/c despite the Niners losing out on a trip to the SB the only thing Crabtree seems concerned with was Sherman and tweeting like a dumbass about him shortly after the game. Talk about getting in someone's head. Crabtree done got owned.
Wow, I see a bunch of haters..still trying to protect your college eval I see.. Wilson played a good football game.. And I'd love to see your pocket qbs go into that environment and give their team a chance to win at the end.. Give some respect to those young qbs...they both deserve it thus far in their short careers, and it's ok to admit that you underestimated both players coming out relative to what they have accomplished, instead of continuing to find ways lower their accomplishments to make yourself feel better.
Yeah I don't think Ryan could handle that kind of pressure from the pocket, he's gonna have to get better, quickly.
"The connection and relationship between the players and the 12th man is truly amazing"...the first thing that comes out of Carroll's mouth.. Paul Allen...and "don't forget the players, how bout those guys" Lol. How bout that 12 th man...,nahhhhhhh, they have nothin to do with it..lol Bastards know exactly how good they got it.
Likewise with Kap. He handled it terribly. I like Kap, though. I don't feel he is one of the 10 best in the game yet but he's on his way there, IMO. He's close. I think he and Tannehill are similar, so I think he has the opportunity to join him.
Any Qb, pocket or not could have thrown two picks in a game like that, the pressure from every scope was relentless, bottom line, I would of been proud of his performance, he made enough plays at critical times, he stayed aggressive til that last play,( not a bad throw at all) and it took a spectacular play by the best at his position to deny him the victory. What's happening I think is people are not realizing that these two qbs are learning the game while keeping their teams playing at a championship level.. Their not properly putting into context the plays they ARE making relative to the outcome of the game..They see a bad read, or a pick, and all of a sudden, ",SEE, I told you he can't play from the pocket" It's fu@&in ridiculous..the proof of their play has already been established..yet folks are still trying to tear their individual games down.. So needless to say, you using the word " terribly" is not something I agree with.
I disagree, obviously. I do think many are too harsh on Kap, though. Hell, he's the reason I'm buying Dre Beats!
There is a question. ..RT is a very good intermediate passer, but honestly?? What else does Tanny do that's so effective? His deep ball is ridiculous, and I doubt Im the only one who is unimpressed with his elusivness in the pocket. Granted his surroundings are better but CKap did have more TDs and a whole lot less Ints. RT looked putrid vs Buff and home vs the Jets when he was needed most, you gotta realize CKap was in an NFC championship game at the toughest venue in all of sports. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
Todd, you are very good at painting pictures to manipulate people into agreeing with you. But c'mon! I have no problem with intensity, hell I know our team could use some. But no need to go over the top in apologizing for Sherman. Wrs and DBs yap every game all the time. Richard took it a few steps further by sprinting over to Crab 15 seconds after the game was over and getting in his face. I think that deserved more than just a shove in the face mask. Again Im not against the passion he brings, but to blame Crab is just unnecessary. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
Again, both of them talk trash. I have no issue with Crabtree pushing Sherman's facemask after the play. They were just eliminated from the Super Bowl and Sherman ran over to start rubbing it in. That's heat of the moment. I would give Sherman the benefit of the doubt if he didn't have a history of doing this stuff. Crabtree should just let it go at this point though. EDIT: Basically exactly what Fin-O said.
One of the radio guys said it perfectly today. Sherman is diminishing his value acting like this because now people are going to think of him as a jackass first and a great player second. I agree with that.
Again though, Tannehill has to do it all. He has no protection. He has no run game. He has to throw all game long to give us a chance to win. Kaepernick has the benefit of having amazing pieces around him so he doesn't have to win the game himself. It's a lot like Mark Sanchez in 2009 and 2010. Kaepernick is better than Sanchez, but still. You get the point.
What Rocky said above. Also, Kaepernick is in year 3, Tannehill in year two. Kaepernick had the benefit for being a Qb his whole career, and watching for a year where as Tannehill was thrown in the fire by a OC who didnt even believe in him enough to be a college qb in Mike Sherman. How does that work? For all we know, that set him back a couple of years. Tannehill's deep ball issues are correctable with better mechanics. But he makes good decisions for the most part, theyve taught him how to be a pocket qb and use that accuracy to be a "windows QB" which is probably the hardest thing to become; you usually either are or are not. A lot of the intermediate throws Tannehill makes are throws many qb's would not see or make as cleanly. Tannehills deep ball and his ball-placement are his biggest issues....Brady had a mediocre deep ball because of similar issues when he came in the league. Brees had a hard time with ball placement and accuracy in general when he came in the league. These are correctable things.
Sherman must have still been coming down from whatever PED he took before the game... the first infamous interview with Erin Andrews... but then he spoke on the stage and then with the FOX crew after the game where he was "normal."
exactly. kapernick is better than sanchez but it is still the same thing. dominant defense with a great running game, make enough plays not to cost your team the game, which last night kapernick had to shoulder the load and cost his team the win with some horrible passing, and kapernick has weapons all over the field. wilson impresses me more since he doesn't have the weapons kapernick does, but he still has an elite running back to take pressure off him.
Imo his mmqb column explains his dislike of Crabtree http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/?xid=brand-fb
My point is what we are saying about Ryan, Browns fans said about Tim Couch, Bengals fans said about Akili Smith, Texans fans said about David Carr. I don't think he will be a bust, but you can look at the situation and make an argument he's as close to those guys as he is to the elites you mentioned. Without seeing the passing lanes it's hard for me too say SF would've won with Ryan Tannehill when RT wouldn't have ran for anywhere near 130 yards, and the TD to Boldin? Sorry but show me one play in 2 years he has made like that. I like Ryan, but I just can't defend him with vigor quite yet. Basically because I have no reason too. It's all assumptions that I can't agree with.
none of those qb's ever showed the promise tannehill has. tannehill doubled his td's thrown, tannehill/kapernick had the same amount of plays of 20+ yards and the same amount of plays at 40+ yards. tannehill is nowhere in the same league as couch,smith,carr. tannehill in his second year vastly improved. tannehill 60.4 % completion 3,913 yards 24td 17 int carr 56.6% completion 2,013 yards 9td 13 int smith 44.2 % completion 1,253 yards 3td 6 int couch 63.7 % completion 1,483 yards 7td 9 int tannehill is not even remotely close to that group. as for not being near the elite group. give it some time tannehill just finished his second season. brees wasnt brees after 3 or 4 seasons, brady wasnt brady after 2 seasons either. you cannot expect a raw talent like tannehill with limited experience to come in throwing 40 touchdowns. tannehill is in the same group as the rest of the young qb's each one has strengths and weaknesses that need to be worked on, but when this read option gimmick is over we will see how kapernick develops as a passer.
If that's really what happened then I don't blame him for getting pissed off. He's a human being and he was amped up after a big win. I'll reserve judgment not knowing much more about him than that.
That crew sucked. I think Steratore should stick to basketball. They made a couple of bad calls in Seattle's favor, but Olivier Vernon would like to know how Kaep got away with kicking his fumble out of the pocket. Intentional or not, that kick looked worse than Vernon's "scoop" against New England.
Here's some more about Richard Sherman that is very interesting if you can spare a few minutes. If you're into DB play at all, this is a must watch: [video=youtube;VbQGlO0B5nY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VbQGlO0B5nY[/video] via Deadspin Here's a pretty good read on Seattle's D. http://grantland.com/features/whos-laughing-now/ also via Deadspin
^ I was looking for that video earlier. Also this: http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/83264/top-stats-to-know-super-bowl-matchup
I disagree. Tim Couch going into year 2 was drawing Brett Favre comparisons, David Carr was apologised for, for a long time due to an inept OL. My point is fans of teams sometimes see things with blinding bias. Ryan IS in that group of young qbs but too say he is BETTER is nothing more than speculation. Again, CKap made plays Ryan hasn't in two seasons. Im excited about our young QB aswell, but he certainly hasn't done enough for me to feel like we are set for 10 years at QB. Of the young qbs in the league, Id put him ahead of RG3 and in the Andy Dalton who knows what your going to get category. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
And here's what people don't think about when they talk sh@& on that guy..they don't get how tough he is, how hard he is willing to work, the great leadership that he has already displayed, and the accountability he takes wen things don't run perfectly.. He took the whole blame for the team loss, and one would be foolish to think this man will not work relentlessly to improve all facets of the game. So yeah, I would buy beats because of his badassness..The dude is a tough sob.. When it comes to a player that plays the position the way he does, you don't forget the good when the bad happens..I see people forgetting the great when it comes to Wilson and Kaepernick.
Apologize? Why would I apologize for it? I loved seeing it. So that makes the rest of your post moot.
You are trying to justify Shermans actions (doesnt need justification) by discrediting Crab....personally I just think u like watching angry dreaded black men nail your sister, while u "Kellen Winslow" it in the closet.... IMO. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
I really like both of these guys, but I also didn't see a huge gulf between either of them and Tannehill last night. Wilson does prolong plays, but he somehow also displays terrible pocket awareness while extending those plays. There were a lot of instances last night where it looked like his best option was a quick pass and instead he freaked out and ran around before throwing the ball away. Of course, this is something Tannehill needs to work on as well: I think he tends to hold onto the ball too long, crappy o-line or not. Kaep also looked a little scattershot with his passing: sometimes he was effective, sometimes not so much. Granted, he was going against a historically good secondary. His scrambling definitely kept them in the game. I always see this guy and want to buy him a sandwich or something: his legs look like twigs and I want him to gain a little bit of weight. That's probably a prejudice that I don't need to keep, but it is what it is. So, I'm not a guy who is going to complain and say "Kap sucks" or "Wilson sucks," but I see two guys with definite room for improvement and that makes me think that this team can do some things with Tannehill. Give him to Harbaugh or Carroll, and I see their teams in the same position, IMO.
