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Interesting interview with La Canfora on wqam

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by LBsFinest, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    http://wqam.com/category/interviews/

    tidbits:

    - likes the Lazor hire, thinks he's a head coach in the making, but doesn't want people to overlook the fact that Philly's dominant running game was essential in Foles development

    - Ross's reputation is still questionable at best around the league

    - DeCosta wasn't coming no matter what, he turns everyone down

    - Scot McCloughan and Tom Gamble would have probably interviewed with more stable organizations

    - GM candidates still have trepidation about the owner, the structure, how the chain of command will work, who will run things when the owner is in new york most of the time.

    - likes some of the current candidates that have interviewed, but again is worried how much control they'll truly have on a day to day basis, candidates worried about the 2 vs 1 dynamic with Philbin and Aponte

    - many candidates still in the dark about chain of command even after interviewing, candidates even questioning EACH OTHER after interviews, trying to figure out if they came away from the talks with a true understanding of the structure

    lol wow this **** is a mess...
     
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  2. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Yeah sorry...find a report by someone who isnt a joke and ill take it seriously.
     
  3. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Ross has publicly said that the GM will have full control. Why is it so hard to understand?
     
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  4. Den54

    Den54 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Because it's not controversial enough to fit an agenda thus starting a thread on a message board.
     
  5. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well there are still questions about what full control is to Ross. I mean if the GM asks him, "Can I fire Philbin if I don't want him here?" "Can I replace any of the front office (Aponte) if I want my guys here?" and the answer is No then he....doesn't have full control. We are keeping Philbin and Aponte so obviously a new GM doesn't have control right off the bat. Now maybe he will after a year and he can decide who stays or goes but if a GM feels like Philbin and Aponte have Ross's ear and they can't be fired.....well then WTF is full control? Its an issue.
     
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  6. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    The only gm who has this type of control is jerry jones. I doubt any other gm in the league can straight up fire an executive like your saying.

    Full control means you can sign, trade, release, draft whomever you want. Thats what a gm's job is.
     
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  7. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wouldn't dismiss the report if it weren't la canfora. He's got less credibility then armando or omar kelly. And that's tough to do.
     
  8. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    I'm sure it isn't a very desirable position, this is NOT news anymore.
     
  9. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    That's not really what Ross said. I'm not sure what full autonomy over the 53-man roster means either.

    I think the confusion is occurring because there are multiple franchise models still on the table. I'm not sure Omar Khan and Brian Xanders are interviewing for the same job even though the title may be the same.
     
  10. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Is it really that hard to believe that GMs might have questions about the power structure in Miami? Forget about who is reporting it and how trustworthy they are. Many of us on this board said this would be a problem all the way back when Sparano was fired in 2011. We said it was a problem then that Ireland was left on board and that it could create a problem if Ireland eventually was fired but the coach was kept. And here we are. Now that news sources are reporting what many of us on this board speculated about 3 years ago, it's being written off as ridiculous. If you were entering a job where you knew 2 of the people on staff worked together in concert to get the guy you were replacing fired, would you have concerns? I'm not saying you wouldn't take the job, but you would definitely have questions about where you stood in relation to those folks.

    I'm not saying this spells doom and gloom for Miami. But to write this off as preposterous ignores a very big 800 lb gorilla in the room, IMHO.
     
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  11. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    Let's say the new GM is targeting a player in free agency and he wants to give the guy a 5 year deal and Aponte doesn't want to give him more than 4 years...who wins out? If Aponte wins out, then the GM doesn't really have full control. If Stephen Ross has to step in and break the tie, then again, the GM doesn't have full control. What if the new GM knows that it will take 15 mil guaranteed to secure a free agent and Aponte doesn't want to give him more than 10? I think all these candidates have considered these potential issues.
     
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  12. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Why do i think if it was Dave Aponte and not Dawn that the drama queens wouldnt be creating well so much drama over nothing......
     
  13. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    More speculation. Not sure if care.

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  14. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm noticing a theme here.
     
  15. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Of course it's a problem. The main question for the GM is whether Ross is hiring him to build the winner or to serve Philbin for the duration of his tenure. Those are two different things. If he is hired to serve Philbin, then how come he does not report to Philbin? And that is a lame duck position. If he is hired to build the winner, then he should have a say over who coaches the team, fire a HC who does not perform, get rid of the QB, etc.
     
  16. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Which GMs can fire coaches?

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  17. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    Man all the excitement I had over Ireland's sorry *** finally being fired is almost all gone...everyone we've interviewed is 2nd rate...partly because the top candidates would rather stay away from this dysfunction...also because they're not being offered enough power ...until I hear some much better names officially interviewing like Gutekunst, Vital, Ross etc I can't really get excited about this GM search

    on the bright side, almost anyone would be an upgrade over what we had...so it's not all bad!
     
  18. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sigh.
     
  19. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    the only mess is the guy himself
     
  20. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    The one in Dallas, Denver, Buffalo, for example.
     
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  21. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    You're literally the only person I've seen who thinks the candidates we've interviewed are second rate. These guys are all highly regarded as up and coming GMs.

    How about that OC we hired? He was one of the top names out there and he picked Miami.

    Ireland is gone and you still do nothing but whine about everything. Give it a rest dude and let it play out. I'm sure you'll hate the guy we hire anyway, but you should at least wait and see what he does first.
     
  22. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    :sidelol:
     
  23. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    One of those is the owner and an other is John Elway. Just look at the teams left, Seattle? No. San Fran? No. New England? Nope. One team is set up for what you're advocating.

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  24. phinfan4ever

    phinfan4ever New Member

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    Who knows with all the info out there what is truth, false, or plain guessing?
     
  25. bigbucks24

    bigbucks24 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's all fine and dandy, but how about the beer in the stadium? What if he wants a different beer? Does he have control over that? And how about that peanut vendor in section 118? Does he have control over that? That guy that puts the tarp on the field. Can he replace him? I get that everyone is going to ask about control. But they are going to ask about control during EVERY GM interview that they do. Why are the Dolphins in some bizzarro world, unlike any other franchise in the history of the NFL? I just took a different job within my company. I asked what control I had. I asked whether I could fire the Supervisors that worked under me. At no point did I think that my company was completely screwed up because I had to ask that question.

    The OP only thinks it's interesting because it is negative. I believe that is the only things that interests him about the Dolphins right now.
     
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  26. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I am not advocating for one way or the other. I am just stating that it is a concern for a GM. I believe in, where there is a will there is a way, and the way is money.
     
  27. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Spot on. Had to double check to make sure this was your post lol.
     
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  28. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Maybe I need to rethink my stance if you agree… :lol:
     
  29. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Or maybe I've had too much too drink lol
     
  30. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    ...and its Buffalo, a model franchise......
     
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  31. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    The Bucs have most of their coaches in place. No GM yet. In fact I'd say a GM would have less power there than here. Why aren't the Bucs being questioned about their organizational structure?
     
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  32. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Lovie has final say on all personnel moves. I don't even know what the point of the GM job really is in Tampa. the "GM" who takes the tampa job will have to run every move by Lovie Smith before it can occur.
     
  33. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Aponte manages the salary cap, the GM handles the roster. Aponte has no say on the length of time the player stays on the team, that is on the GM. She manages the numbers in the contract and how they are spread throughout the length of the active contract. She has to factor in contingencies and penalties that would affect the salary cap projection. All this has to be taken into consideration along with the rest of the other active player contracts when negotiating with the player's agent on salary distribution. In your example, if a player wants 15 mil guaranteed, Aponte's job would be to know whether or not the team can afford that salary, or what would have to happen to make the numbers work. Roster decisions will belong to the GM, Aponte does the math. The GM does the shopping, Aponte keeps the checkbook balanced.
     
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  34. Califin

    Califin Well-Known Member

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    The position is for a GM, who will be presiding with full autonomy and control of the 53 man roster. There is currently a coach in place that the GM will be expected to corroborate, and work with
    in developing and upgrading the roster. Additionally Dawn Aponte will be available to assist with cap management and contract negotiation.

    A candidate with significant experience in managing these two aspects, should be under no obligation to work with Aponte, and should be granted the freedom to manage the cap and negotiate contracts as he sees fit if so desired.

    A candidate however with lesser experience in those two areas, may be held to a shorter leash, and initially could be expected to work with Aponte in accordance with the best interests of the organization.

    This is how I would presume they're conducting, interviews and explaining the position. They may not be revealing to each candidate of which group each belongs, and thus could be causing the anxiety being described.

    It would surprise me if the topic of firing coaches, or executive VP's is even being discussed, at least at this stage of the interview process.
     
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  35. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    thats a pretty good percentage out of 32 teams....
     
  36. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member


    LaCanfora isn't as connected as he'd have everyone believe, that's why NFLN dropped him and they don't drop anyone? Seriously, his connection with this team is Mando...that tells me everything I want to know about him...

    Now, that doesn't mean some of this may be true, but until it's heard from a more credible source, like one of the candidates, I find it a bit hard to believe. If that were the case, why would any of these guys still want to be on our radar...At that point, EVERY candidate should be dropping out of our race....
     
  37. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Yes and look at the cluster ****s two of them are in Dallas and Buffalo....
     
  38. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Obviously no one can fire a person above them, thats stupid. But there are a lot of people in the front office and Aponte shouldn't be above a GM so if he didn't want to work with her, IF he had full control he should be able to fire them. And a GM should be able to pick his coach, thats a pretty standard model around the league.
     
  39. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    LB, without being an azz, is there anything about the Fins do that you like ?? You were very vocal about Ireland and wanting him fired for last 3 yrs, that's fine. You finally get what you've been advocating all along and now you don't like any candidate and are bashing the organization for not getting the the guys YOU wanted...

    Can't have it both ways...Well, that's not true either, I guess you can have it any way you want, but geez... I hope for your sake, we get a GM that you approve of....
     
  40. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    I like plenty of candidates...we just didn't interview any of them. How could we not interview Marc Ross, our owner spends 90% of his time in New York. If Stephen Ross has so much faith in Philbin, how could he not interview Gutekunst or Highsmith? Wouldn't that be the perfect way to avoid another clash between coach and GM with different philosophies? The only legitimate GM with final say position still available and this is the list of names we put together? It's just sad that this is the best we come up with.

    As for the guys who declined interviews, it's not surprising, Stephen Ross always wants the big name but he's never willing to make the necessary sacrifices to secure them. He was an idiot to think that a Harbaugh, Gruden or Cowher would even consider working with a complete tool in Ireland. He was a fool to think that Jeff Fisher would be willing to put his full trust in Ireland deciding on personnel, still a fool now to think the top GM candidates would let him force an unproven head coach on them, an asst GM and a capologist who's aligned with the coach after stabbing the previous GM in the back and pitting the two against each other...did Ross really think that the best candidates would ignore all this dysfunction and take the job? Why, just because it's one of 32 positions? If so he's wrong, these guys know there will be plenty of future opportunities to be a GM with more stable organizations.
     

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