Dolphins hire Eagles quarterback coach Bill Lazor as their new OC

The rest was not all the same. Carey was the RG in 2011. Jerry developed the past two season as a pass blocker where he went from looking like a total bust in 2010 and 2011, to at least middling starter as a pass blocker the last two seasons. His run blocking is bad, but it's because he most of all does not fit a zone scheme. Turner did not decide the blocking scheme, Sherman did. Turner just had to make do the best he could with adapting the players he had into a zone scheme. Incognito improved from 2011 to 2012. Pouncey improved a bunch from 2011 to 2012. Long regressed. Martin was worse than Colombo.

 

I'd also like to see Omar Khan hired as the on-site boss, but that might be pushing it.

 

I'm not a fan of Xanders, if he is the one I'm thinking of Denver had Xanders and McDaniel and they were flat out wacky in their draft choices.

As for Lazor, I'm fine with the hire, think Tannehill can have his training wheels taken off, not so much a fan of Turner..the offensive line play was ATROCIOUS

They not only were ******* at the point of attack, some games they had -0- idea what they hell they were doing, or what they were SUPPOSED to do, keeping him is madness.

 

Way to polish that turd

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Dallas Thomas says hello.

Turner is just not a good offensive line coach, possibly the worst I've seen

We consistently COULD not pick up short ydg, 3rd and 2, 4th and 1, passing downs, b/c his unit was so crappy and it never improved, passing blocking did improve, sort of, only to be exposed in the last two games.

Wr's/Te/Rb coaching was fine, guys developed or stretched themselves to do things they were not used to doing (Egnew, Miller as a pass protector) Matthews developed as did Clay.

Offensive line..train wreck, to me Pouncey was not even as good as he had been.

 

I guess you couldn't get the YAC to get the Net YPA. A 1 yard screen pass to the best RB in the NFL that goes for 31 yards is counted as a 31 YPA but Foles should be credited with a net 1 yard pass attempt. A throw out of the endzone counts as a meaningless 20 yard attempt. Watching the games, I saw Foles take no chances and protected his stats at all cost.

 

The Eagles offense scored 442 points. Miami has scored more than that just once. 1984.

 

I'm pretty sure Xanders assembled the weapons Manning is utilizing now. 3 straight playoff runs. I'm not sure what you're looking for in a GM.

 

Have you lived and raised a family in Miami?

 

Nope, look at the McDaneil draft classes, they cratered, Fox was hired, and they went in a different direction w/far less reaches.

For example Tebow was taken when Xanders was there

 

I heard his wife wanted to celebrate with a few rounds in the air but she misplaced her riffle..........

 

Xanders didn't have say, McDaniels did.

 

As for Xanders in Denver:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_20568607/broncos-brian-xanders-agree-part-ways-after-four-years

08 Shanahan had roster control/final say
09-10 McDaniel
11 Elways first yr, Xanders assisted him
12 Elway

Xanders then left for Detroit

 

Tebow was taken because McDaniels wanted him. Everyone knows that.

 

Turner isn't great but he had nothing to work with this year, Martin is a bust, the homers here thought that he was going to miraculously improve his game ten-fold in one offseason but I knew he needed too much work, Clabo was Marc Colombo vol. 2, John Jerry has always sucked, Brenner sucked, Garner sucked, Cogs was okay but we only had him half the season. hopefully our new GM has the ability to find an offensive lineman outside of the 1st round that isn't completely worthless.

 

Everyone knows that...hmmm...this is the sort of murkiness I really do not want.

Not after the Ireland time w/no accountability.

Would be fair to say his time in Detroit would be more clarifying.

 

That's how we can get back on the right track.

 

Facts are facts.

 

He did not make the decision. He did not have final say on the draft picks.

 

Did you miss the part where Tebow was in Patriots camp this off-season? Doesn't seem murky to me at all. btw: They did win a playoff game with Tebow. Like it or not.

 

Everyone but our lovable old Padre I guess.

 

Sure, then cratered the next season, "everyone knows" is a trope smahatz.

Situation looks like this, "good draft pick, oh that was mine, bad draft pick, or that was theirs"

Ala Ireland, for example assume Tebow is wash, what about Bebe Thomas?

09 was particularly bad, 11 was particularly good, neither can exactly be laid on his resume

12 looked sort of bland, they did add Manning which papers over problems

Detroit's 2013 class.. did not pay attention to the Lions and Schwartz was a schmuck of a HC

 

We're really keeping Turner? What kind of a ****ed up joke is that?

 

The Eagles percentage of total receiving yards from YAC was just 1% more than the Broncos and a hair less than the Patriots. Ergo Peyton Manning & Tom Brady suck, right.

Pop quiz hot shot: When a QB puts the ball where it needs to be, his receivers have a greater opportunity for YAC, yes or no?.... but I'm sure that has nothing to do with Foles being among the NFL's All Time leaders in yards per attempt, right. *yawn*

I believe that counts as a throwaway.
Regardless, Foles completed 10 passes on throws over 30 yards [8 for touchdowns], as in- that round leather thing was thrown beyond 30 yards before his receiver caught it. For comparison, Peyton Manning completed 8 [3 for touchdowns]. During his 2011 MVP season, Aaron Rodgers completed 11 [6 for touchdowns]. Keep in mind Foles completed 10 in just 10 starts. Flacco completed 10 [3 for touchdowns] in 2012..... in nearly 200 more pass attempts.

then you should watch harder. much harder. or sit next to someone who knows what he's watching.

Yup, the Eagles somehow finished 4th in scoring on the back of a take-no-chances QB. Well, except for the 56 points off throws over 30 yards [in 10 starts no less]. That's equivalent to 18% of Miami's total points.

Any more goal posts you'd like to move.... errr are you done?

 

near the Orange Bowl, and that place was se-cure. Most amount of people per capita willing to watch your car for you, and never seen so many good samaritans standing on street corners offering up directions. Some of 'em will even get in the car to make sure you get there. nuff said.

 

Let's pretend Foles really is this check down system guy, why does that matter if he's producing?

Arguing about something stupid, with even stupider reasons...Todd, why do these guys insist on making you look smart.

 

exactly. Who gives a sh-t. Philly's offense scored points with him at QB and did so at a high rate of yards per clip. Philly fans have gotta be disgusted with how boring that offense was, especially all those deep completions and chunk yardage TDs.
Hopefully Lazor can bring some of that magic to Miami and Tannehill.

 

Maclin, Jackson, McCoy..not exactly Harltine/Miller/Wallace in terms of explosive YAC and RAC plays.

 

Seriously. Agnostic as I am I really don't care how anyone else gets thru the day. Be blessed if you want to. Be happy if you don't. Life is beautiful.

 

You should run for Congress. Seriously. You would have my vote. I still mean my previous post but you seem refreshingly neutral here.

 

Back to our regullarly scheduled program ...
I like the theory of getting a younger modern mindset. We saw glimpses from philbin in preseason but it never showed at gametime. Changing the pace. Hurry up early and often. No huddle run game. Call plays while on the line. Force the defense to react to you instead of reacting to them. Hell ill be happy if he can call a freaking screen pass.

Will it happen? Show me. Pleeezzees

 

Maclin who??

 

I don't disagree with you at all.

I was just saying let's not expect Eagles 2.0 when Lazor gets down here, Philbin hasn't exactly brought the Packers offense down from Green Bay either.

 

Yessir.

Do you think he's coming here to run what they ran in Philly?

 

I do remember articles that talked about Philbin's desire for a fast paced offense and remember reading him say every once and a while that the offense was not at the pace he would like.

 

I could see some of it making its way, maybe not all since the personnel doesn't fully match up. Is he coming here to bring an adaptation of Philly for Philbin to learn or will Lazor be learning Philbin's system and adding in some Philly flair? Initially I could see the latter but with the pace picked up. Wallace can be our Jackson, Clay works well as one of the TEs, but we'd still need a dynamic back and perhaps we can draft the playmaking Kelvin Benjamin or Allen Robinson to be our Riley Cooper if we can address most of the line in FA. You?

 

And it makes me wanna cry as a Dolphins fan.

 

I dont get this. Doesnt anyone remember the first season Philbin got here, and how he ran our practices. I recall the reporters amazed at how many snaps we were getting off. Philbin has always wanted to run a fast paced offense...but we didnt have the pieces in place, especially along the offensive line.

All this arguing is kinda ...pointless, IMO. Lets let the guy get in....wait to here more about what he thinks of the players he has on hand. Nobody knows what the journey to the end result is gonna look like.

 

Seriously don't get the hate on Foles. If Tannehill becomes 80% of the quarterback Foles is, we'll be legit.