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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by LI phinfan, Dec 24, 2013.

  1. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That we should change up our cadence and rhythm, Felt like the Bills were getting a jump on our snap count. Are you kidding me? This was brought up early in the season and our team dismissed the notion. Now our starting LT,who has played on two other teams, says its a problem. How stubborn can this coaching staff be? Our OL is already at a disadvantage, this news only compounds the problem. Week 17 was the time to address this problem?...no chance to do this the previous 16 weeks?
     
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  2. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Wow..I gotta agree with you there. If in fact he got that sense..there's being confident in your method..and just being ridiculously stubborn. I think maybe Philbin is being stubborn to a fault.

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  3. jsizzle

    jsizzle Banned

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    Turner and Sherman will be gone first, count it.
     
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  4. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Source?
     
  5. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    As we watched that game, my buddy was saying the samething....those LB's were literally down to the millisecond it seems on some of those plays.....
     
  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    maybe we can just promote mt mckinnie to ol coach next season.
     
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  7. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I am not a pro football coach, can only make observations and let the people in the know handle it. Maybe the people in the know are not so smart. Lets hope they are smart enough to listen to him and make changes. I have to believe this info has made its rounds to other teams. Why so stubborn? WHY?!!!
     
  8. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    James Walker, who covers Phins for ESPN just tweeted it
     
  9. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Didn't McKinnie help out Brenner two weeks ago with advice during the Pats game. Players are doing the coaching, which is great, but where are the REAL COACHES?
     
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  10. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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  11. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's what I've been saying. His stubborness is his biggest flaw.

    I want him gone.
     
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  12. Stringer Bell

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    Did they use a silent count in Buffalo???

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  13. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Mckinnie just quoted "The change that I suggested will definately work, It will keep them(DEFENSE) honest now" Holy Smokes, is this a joke?
     
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  14. NyPhinfan

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    I have been saying since Week One that the cadence and rtythm has been a problem. what ever happened to the UP TEMPO we wanted to run? Why does almost every snap go down to 1 second on the play clock? I watched the game on replay and 2 of those corner blitzes came with 1 second left on the play clock. The corner timed it where Miami had to snap the ball just as he was running up across the line of scrimmage. You even see one where McKinnie didnt even have a chance to get out of his stance. Somehow we need to mix this up a bit...Buffalo has not been the only team to notice this and not the only one to take advantage of it
     
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  15. MikeHoncho

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    Can we please just take Jim Turner to the shed already? Hasn't he earned it by this point?

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  16. ckparrothead

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    Wow. Finally we see a player or coach actually take a stand and say that it's a problem. The fans have been clamoring over this one all year but every time a player or coach has commented on it, they've summarily dismissed it as a concern.
     
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  17. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    But yet Philbin doesn't think it's a big deal.

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  18. MikeHoncho

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    Franchise record... nope, not a problem at all.

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  19. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well we can't change personnel at this point so changes like this would seem.....elementary.....its hard to believe that we were reading this on a message board weeks ago....and its not an issue with the coaching staff? Wow. Maybe we can find a more flexible coach....maybe Dave Wannestadt is available...
     
  20. Alex44

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    The issue McKinnie is speaking of and the issue the board was speaking of are not the same.

    McKinnie is suggesting changing up our snap count and Tannehill using his voice more.

    The board was discussing go vs gogo.

    Diffrrent issues.
     
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  21. CaribPhin

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    People haven't necessarily been calling out going on one on every down. People have been speculating that Go on passes and Go Go on runs tip off the D.

    I think us only ever going on one with absolutely no variation is definitely a big deal. The fact that it's always Go on obvious passing downs is definitely an issue but I'm not convinced the Go vs. Go Go thing is an issue.
     
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  22. ckparrothead

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    Interesting if true.

    I think you're right. There's a difference between "cadence" and "snap count".
     
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  23. NyPhinfan

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    My issue is not so much the "go" or the "go-go" as running the play clock down to one everytime and that tap thing the guards do to Pouncey before the snap
     
  24. Fame

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    Knowing Philbin, he'll probably cut Mckinnie now for suggesting a change. Philbin always gets rid of voices other than his own.
     
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  25. finfansince72

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    Good point. I do think that the underlying issue is the lack of adjustments during games. We don't seem to be able to go away from the gameplan or adjust it when its not working. Simple changes in cadence or snap count shouldn't be huge issues to change during the week or at half time if we practice it during the week.
     
  26. BigNastyDB13

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    These are things that Tannehill has the control to change but hasn't. The timing and repetitiveness is the main problem, although the go!-gogo! needs to be mixed up occasionally at the very least.
     
  27. Alex44

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    The reason I think its correct I'd that he didn't mention our plays being tipped off. Just that they were beating us off the ball because they more or less knew the count.
     
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  28. Den54

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    He'll have Ireland do his dirty work.
     
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  29. Paul 13

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    :rolleyes:
     
  30. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Lol yeah God forbid a person voices their opinion. The go...gogo thing has always been in question with me. It needing to change...along with Mike Sherman and Jim Turner. After the Jets beat us I'm sure it will.
     
  31. WhiteIbanez

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    The Dolphins should have a random group of fans coach the team next year since they are on the field, in the game and seem to know everything. :wink2:
     
  32. NorFlaFin

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    Continuously lining up in the shotgun is bigger tipoff that's it's pass play.

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  33. Jaj

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    This is hilarious.
     
  34. Fame

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    You don't have to know everything to notice the obvious stuff.
     
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  35. padre31

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    Bills were amped, could see it, they had an edge.

    They were locked in and launching like rockets, there is a reason why they could do it
     
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  36. Stringer Bell

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    Its the same issue that the Texans took advantage of last season.
     
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  37. cdz12250

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    Having watched that game, I'd like to see that tried. They say that even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and I don't think I saw two good calls in that game.
     
  38. PlanB

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    Too many people are suggesting it to not be a problem. We were slaughtered yesterday.
     
  39. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Most alarming is that McKinnie seems to have a lot of the answers
     
  40. Alex13

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