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The Claymaker

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rocky Raccoon, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    This is where I'm being misunderstood, I'm NOT against Stats as Factors, what I prefer is Stats as predictors of TRENDS and making decisions based on trends with the understanding that the Trend Is Your Friend is fine, there is also Seminal Thinking.

    ATM, the league has a pass heavy bias towards pass heavy teams, now what happens if one notices that the avg weight and tackling and run stopping ability of defenders declines?

    By golly, time to switch up a bit, otherwise what happens is 31 stat monkeys chasing the trend, 1 seminal thinker going the opposite direction and finding success.

    This is one reason why from that pov it can be said Ireland has done a damn good job keeping core positions flexible enough to make it fairly easy to change up, the core positions on the team can play either style of offense, not so much on Defense

    As a Trend however, Defenses tend to rise or fall quickly from season to season

    Offenses however, once excellence is achieved tend to stay excellent until core positions leave via FA or injury or you lose your Franchise Qb. Looked at that way, if we went run heavy next yr, would Tannehill be able to make the adjustment?

    Sure, he's spent the last two years as a pocket Qb for the most part

    THAT is the sort of flexibility a roster needs to consistently compete
     
  2. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    Let's be honest a lot of Keller's lack of numbers come from playing with the Buttfumble.....I'd love to have a healthy Keller with Clay next year
     
  3. Just to build onto this post:

    The YAC by Clay are impressive too

    Hartline 243 yac 67 rec 3.67 yds per catch
    Wallace 241 yac 58 rec 4.15 yds per catch
    Clay 290 yac 60 rec 4.8 yds per catch

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/p.../sort/receivingYards/qualified/false/count/41
     
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  4. are you really trying to hijack this thread to start up a debate that's already been had???

    We all are familiar with your opinion, move on from it.
     
  5. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Sorry but your objectivity goes out the window on players you have a bone with.
     
  6. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I'm not hijacking the thread. It was specifically mentioned in one of the posts in this thread that Charles Clay was doing well because of the "attention" Mike Wallace gets from the defense. I called hore**** on this idea, because there is nothing factual about it. Charles Clay is doing well because he makes the most of his chances when he has the ball. Mike Wallace has no effect on what Charles Clay does when he has the football.
     
  7. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    http://www.advancednflstats.com

    WPA = win probability added. It's a good value that gives you an idea what each player contributes to winning.
    EPA = expected points added. It's a good value that gives you an idea how many points each player is generating for the team.
    Success rate is the percentage of plays the player is directly involved in that have a positive EPA.
     
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  8. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Bump.4th and 5, amazing catch and run.
     
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  9. Dolfan330

    Dolfan330 My wein is so chaffed...

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    Goes Beast mode on his only catch. Great block by Clabo too
     
  10. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And Sims.
     
  11. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Clutch.
     
  12. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Patriots did a great job of shutting him down today... except for the play of the game.
     

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