Why Philbin will lose his job this season

A wee bit disturbing, if he wants consistency that's fine, the problem is there is such a thing as consistently bad.

Sunday at 4:15 pm will be an interesting time.

 

It just seems to me like Philbin has a tough time getting the players motivated. The way they came out Monday night was just awful.

 

What i want to know is when is .500 not going to be enough for dolphin fans, i read everyone's posts daily and it makes me sick sometimes when people say sherman isnt the problem or the coaching staff or the GM,

Im giving you three points right now why they all should lose there job.

1. Bringing in a new coaching staff will potentially have the effect of over .500 with these guys your looking at the same BS for however many years they stay.

2. Getting rid of Reggie bush because mike Sherman cant use RB effectively. (today's NFL you need to use running backs in passing downs IE Breese, peyton) P.S Reggie is doing well at the #1 spot in Det.

3. Saying Ryan Tannehill is the future is like saying Kim Kardashian marries for Love, hes gonna get by for a couple years then be right where Henne went, to the IR and released.

I hope philbin Sherman and Ireland all get tossed for all this non sense going on bring in a new crew, a QB coach that's not 16 ears old to teach tannehill, your not going to win many games ive been a fins fan all my life and to say they are going to win in the last months is crazy. The defense has won almost as many games than the offense you seriously think that teams who start to gel right now are going to allow the same mistakes we have capitalized on the past weeks. Every team is showing signs of improvement including bucs and jags, but the dolphins are declining. With the remaining schedule i give maybe 3 wins for a final 8-8 if we played int he NFC East we would make the playoffs but with that brady guy wont allow a .500 to make it.

Tannehill might have the talent in him but in this system with these guys he cannot and will not make it period.

If you can only rush for 2 yards against an 0-8 team you honestly think the defense and our offense is going to have the gusto to play hard every week, heck no there going to get by to not get hurt.

 

I think Philbin has maybe gotten a bad deal, but at this point he has to go. He won't get another head coaching job and his reputation has taken a huge hit in this entire Martin Saga which maybe isn't fair. Couple all of the bad publicity with a team that falls apart in games late, gets routinely outcoached in the 2nd half (something that tells me he isn't that good), and you have a coach that needs to be replaced. I find it hard to believe that Ross isn't going to hire someone outside of this current front office group to run the show and they will simply clean house. I expect big roster changes in the offseason as well.

 

I think he's right, especially on offense.

 

So you're calling Ross a LIAR? Because he basically came out and said the exact opposite the other day.

 

What did Ross say? And stop with silliness like "you're calling someone a liar" because you have a difference of opinion, thats just nonsense.

 

Why would there be the expectation that the owner would be telling the truth about anything?

 

How so? They had two carries for 55 yards and 85 yards on their other rushing 35 attempts.

 

Because that's how running games work? It doesn't necessarily have to pop big yardage each time, but they kept pressing the issue and late in the game when TB went on that 80 yard drive Miami's run D wilted.

 

So you didn't see his press conference or read his comments.

I think you should.

 

My question is how does that show that the defense was expecting Tampa to air it out and thus unprepared for the running game?

 

I did see him talk and he said a bunch of nothing other than he was going to hire a committee. And that he think Philbin is a great guy. He didn't say anything about what was going to happen in the offseason. He could and most likely will clean house here in the offseason. This isn't ground breaking information.

 

I don't know if it's the players who were unprepared or the calls by Coyle on the drive that allowed for the yardage, but I think it's safe to say that for whatever reason we didn't adjust properly to TB's willingness to run the ball and not let Glennon get rattled after his INT.

It's easy to say in hindsight, but about halfway through that final drive we should've had something figured out.

 

So the council, the investigation, the reaching out to Martin, none of it is true?

I've found Ross to be fairly transparent since he arrived here. He was obviously blowing smoke when he extended Sparano for that final year but other than I really cant point to anything that he's been deceitful about.

 

The defense played 10 extra minutes than the offense, get one or two more first downs and the defense is not as tired, hard power running games always work at the end of the game because it wears you down.

 

It's not "information" at all. It's you voicing your opinion and fantasizing about how the people who run the team feel the same way.

 

So tired of hearing this excuse for the defense. Would a better offense help this D? For sure, but, How about getting off the field on 3rd down? Defense has to help itself.Was the defense worn down when they ran the ball right down our throats to start the game? This defense has been very mediocre and that is being kind. We have given up 20+ pts in 8 straight games vs a few terrible offenses. I expect the Saints and Colts to put points up against us... not the Bills,Ravensand Bucs

 

How has Philbin gotten a bad deal? Martin saga aside. Philbin brought all this upon himself since he's the HC. He should of had more control of what his OC/DC does. He basically gave them free reign & they have been failing. He should of told his OC/DC to adjust by now. You reap what you sow & this is what Philbin gets. Great coaches tailor their system to the type of players they have and they know how to get the best of them. It seems here, they want the players to adapt to their system, which hasn't work so far.

 

The players were prepared and there was nothing wrong with the play calls on that drive. The Bucs were running the same play over and over and over. Basically the D just got beat, simple as that.

Give the other team some credit, the Bucs have NFL players too.

 

As of now it seems like Phillbin is a lame duck coach. If we continue to lose fire him all the coaches and Ireland clean house

 

There is no such thing as a lame duck coach

 

When the team stops performing and there is the NFL investigation on going and a GM being fired yes you can have a lame duck coach

 

HAHAH another biased person, your right they did give up 20 pts, take the defense away and you lose against cincy and the colts and the fins have 2 wins instead of 4, they made a last drive save against the colts, and they had a pick 6 and a safety in OT against cincy, and if that pick 6 don't happen you lose the game outright.

Give any defense in the league 4 minute break and see how many points they give, the problem is most offenses get first downs and give the guys on D breaks, we are 28th in time of possession and 20th on 3 and outs, now you tell me if you were on the defense youd have energy to stop power run late in the game,

Just another typical fan who puts the blame where its not needed reason why i created my account and started posting beacsue im tired of people blaming the water boys etc. when its not their fault.

The defense does have a problem on 3rd down yes, but thats a D coords issue, you dont know a screen is coming on third and 15+ when everyone else including fans know this and it happens multiple times a week? you rush 3 on third and 25 when every winning team would rush 5+ thats not a defense job to call the plays just run em, when your tired its gotta be harder.

My point is the bucs are the worst team in the nfl actually tied and you have 2 rushing yards and they have the ball for 10 min more and they have 1 win? its coaching and offensive production.

 

I should have been more clear.

As long as a team is in the hunt for the playoffs, there is no such thing as a lame duck coach.

 

True we are still in the playoff hunt but losing to the Bucs and running for 2 yards would have been negative yard if it wasn't for the safety is just pathetic.

 

Yet if Miami does make the playoffs, he has a good chance of keeping his job. If Miami wins a playoff game, he has an even better chance of keeping his job. If Miami wins the Superbowl, he has a 99.999999% chance of keeping his job.

Yes, that does seem unlikely, however it is not impossible. He is not a lame duck coach. He still has a chance to keep his job.

 

GM I agree with you on most of this. I do have trouble with our coordinators. Sherman can call a brilliant drive and then he loses his plan or better yet goes back to his plan. If we throw on first and get nothing without a doubt we are running. 2nd and 10 we run 98% of the time. Teams know it and we almost get stopped every time. I see the tendencies and I'm sure DCs do as well. QB sneaks, why not? We cost our team points every game by not doing it. If Brady can do it, Tannehill should be able to do this. I know our interior oline has struggled especially in short distances. Against TB we tried to run too much. When we went straight pass we got them back on their heels. We should have done this more. 14 carries isn't a lot but was too many when TB likes to blitz on first and second downs. Sherman made bad adjustments.

As for Coyle, he just blows my mind. It takes him and the defense about two or three drives to start a game to figure out what the offense is doing. We are almost playing from behind. He calls too many stunts or twists early and teams just run to those holes. There are some games where we should just let our three very good DTs go straight up and dominant their man, later start throwing in twists, stunts.

I like Philbin but I do feel like this young players don't get to play thing as very annoying. Jordan has done some very good things in very limited time. We have players on the field who shouldn't be over a rook, I'd rather the mistakes be made by a rook and learning then a vet who is making the same mistakes.

 

I think if he can get this team to reach 9 wins he will have done some good things to get his team focused..I'm not sure how his team can get focused when they know the owner has brought in people to look at his locker room, but if he can do it, and isn't guilty of anything bad, then he should get his last year..

 

Not a typical fan, just call what I see. Does the offense blame the Defense When they can't get off the field and give them the ball? I give the Offense plenty of blame. Not going to blame the Defense because we struggle to get 1st downs.You want to blame the DC because of 3rd down problems, What about the Tackling? You pin the win vs Cinc on the defense...They gave up 465 yrd up in that game! 3 big plays won that on defense. This team is mediorce at best on defense..nothing more. Cannot pick and choose whats Coyle's fault and what is the offense fault. Must be on the offense that monday night Tampa pushed around that defense all over the field. Game on the line vs Tampa and they shoved it right down this over rated defense throat! Do we need the offense to help this D? You bet. But stop blaming them because you cant defend 3rd down and been TERRIBLE tackling all year. One last thing. You mention we are 28th in TOP. Alot of that is on the 3 and outs...How about all the 3rd down conversions by the other team..does that add to TOP

 

Yes actually if you reread my post it explains why I said blame the offense you stay on the field over half as much as the offense then yes you are going to get tired and yes your are going to get ran all over, and regardless of how many yards you give up yes I put the win on the defense, tony romo threw for 500 yards and lost his game against the broncos, but i guess yards win you games., and yes actually two big plays did win the game the pick 6 and safety...this team is under mediocre, qb suspect offense suspect, defense about avg, if you take fantasy the dolphins have put up 22 and 19 in back to back weeks on defense. Let the offense get an avg of 1.5 first downs per possession and watch how much better the defense is in the 4th qtr if you do that against rivers hes going to score alot more than 20 pts you keep giving the ball back to him

 

We've slipped to 30th in the NFL in total offense.

Fellas, if Philbin cannot bring himself to make inseason changes, well, he deserves his fate.

Read Incognito sent a "keep your heads up" group text to the offensive line.

Great, makes it easier to put on the noose.

 

I have tried to be positive throughout this season. I along with most of us was very very excited with the 3 wins at the beginning of the year. We were finally on our way to back to relevance!! But now, reality has unfortunately set in. I know that mathematically, there is still a chance to make the playoffs. But, there simply appears to be too much negativity surrounding this team for that to happen. Oh, let me count the ways.

- Have lost 5 out of the last 6
- Games left consist of Chargers, Panthers, Steelers, Jets x 2, Bills, and Pats. Not exactly the easiest schedule
- Just lost against the lowly 0-8 Bucs on MNF in front of the nation(or at least the few who bothered to watch)
- Mired in a national media s*** storm of a scandal
- Defense has allowed at least 20 points in 8 straight games
- Both our offensive and defensive coordinators have shown an either unwillingness or inability to adjust their schemes in response to utter failure
- The worst offensive line in the history of this once storied franchise
- This team as a whole, has simply looked outcoached
- The worst running game we've seen around these parts as long as I can remember

These are just the things off the top of my mind. There are many more. Believe me, I would like nothing more than to see this team claw, kick, and scratch its way into the playoffs. But, being realistic.....it's not going to happen. The Dolphins have proved this right too many times.

 

Eh, a lot of that is merely emotionalism ( to be kind)

National media ****storm?

Over what, all I know is we are 1-4 in our last 5 games, however we are 1 game out of the 6th seed in the wildcard round with 7 games to go.

Let's see how it plays out, do think Sherman should be replaced, do think Philbin is a stiff block of wood who probably would be fine for a more veteran team, for Ireland's young player fetish he is mismatched.

4:15 pm v SD

Either way, those 'tards who will fly the "Fire Ireland" banner, are going immediately on my ignore list, and that is a promise, we are still in the playoff hunt, they should find another team to follow as they are not Dolphins Fans, they are spoiled children with to much excess capital.

 

THe point I was making with yards had to do with the defense not getting off the field, not winning the game. I can imagine 1.5 more 1st downs per drive would help everybody, offense and defense. Can you agree that our defense could help our offense with a few more 3 and outs? Then again, after Wilson's pick on Monday,with a chance to put away the bucs....Sherman called a sweep to Thomas and a TE screen to Clay...ugh Can see your frustration with the offense. Still think this D is over rated, especially when iI thought they could be top 10.

 

Jumping in this conversation late and if I repeat something that's already been stated, my apologies...

I don't think Philbin will lose his job at the end of this season, regardless of the final outcome of the season. It's only Philbin's second season and since this is a quarterback driven anymore, only Tannehill's second season however, this is Jeff Ireland's 6th as GM. I was all for giving Ireland his shot absent Parcells, but he's had his shot, the quality of personnel brought to Miami overall has lacked and in that regard, it's time for a change.

The offensive line is disastrous and has been since the Parcells days. Because the offensive line has been disastrous, we've been able to establish no credible running threat and have had to rely strictly on the play of the quarterback to move the ball. I said this before during the Sparano regime with Henne at the QB position, it doesn't matter who you have back at QB, be it Manning, Brady or even Marino himself, if your offensive line can't block, the QB isn't going to be able to make plays consistently.

My prediction at the end of the season is that Ireland will be gone, Ross will shell out big bucks and try to bring in a big name GM and the offensive line will be priority number one during the offseason. After the revamp, if Miami hasn't significantly improved, Philbin will be on the hotseat next season.

 

I AM SO F'KING TIRED OF "WAIT TIL NEXT SEASON". I mean are we Cleveland?