****The Official 2013-14 NBA Thread****

Their best bet is to hope Dallas or Portland start losing. This team needs a PF to fill the role Amare was supposed to fill.

 

Why? we dont have our 1st this year. Denver has it from the Melo deal. Its top 3 protected I believe.

 

Not sure how I feel about this but the Knicks are discussing a deal to trade Iman Shumpert for Kenneth Faried. We need bigs and Im asusming they would have Hardaway or JR step in to Shumpert's role but damn if Shump doesnt have stud upside. Shump will never be a 20PPG guy but he plays D like few others.

 

E=Section126;2208893]The way you should feel about it is this....it is a Fantasy. Sounds madeup from a #Knicksmedia guy hoping to push lopsided trades in hopes that one sticks.

Denver is not this stupid.[/QUOTE]
Denver is not the 1 pushing this....Ducking Folan is. Shumpert wouldn't go to summer league so Dolan has his panties in a bunch. Guy has everything backwards. Shumpert is 1 of the few NYK players that plays D and and plays hard. JR gets in trouble and played like crap in playoffs and he wants to keep JR. That Dolan wants this tells me it is wrong cause he has the basketball sense of a 4 year old. Doesn't really matter because Denver wants a 1 with it and the knicks can't deal a 1

 

And Im a Mets fan (Wilpons got defrauded by Madoff) and an Islanders fan (6 ownership changes in 25 years..see John Spano 30 for 30). No one can tell me nothing about ****ty ownerships

 

Personally Im happy it didnt go down. While Shumpert may not be as valuable as some Knicks fans want him to be, youre dealing with potential which can always be a GM killer. If the guy doesnt realize his potential on your watch and then does somewhere else, you lose. If you sell high and then he realizes his potential you still lose.

My biggest problem with Farried is that hes an effort guy but hes undersized (never a good thing unless its Charles Barkley) and the spacing with him and Chandler on the floor would be atrocious. Farried shoots an atrocious 26% from 11-16 feet and 30% from 16 to the arc.

 

I disagree. There are more undersized PF's. But more to the point Farried's skillset is strictly a rebounder. His defensive best scoring rate is 101. He has no post game or jump shot. Maybe if Chandler wasnt there I might reconsider but likely not. To me he is a 1st big off the bench if you have a PF who can slide over to C 10-15 minutes a night.

Shumpert however is a rare skill-set. He doesnt need the ball to be effective. He takes the other teams best perimeter player and makes life hell for them. His offensive game is developing and has moments of brilliance (see G6 vs Indiana when he drained 5 3's in a 10 minute stretch). Maybe he becomes what he could be (upside to me is like a Dan Majerle minus being a dead eye shooter) but hes a winning player to me more so then Farried. You havent seen Farried have a real back to the basket game or a consistent jumper. He certainly cant create his own shot, which Shumpert hasnt perfected but he has his moments. Farried is strictly a loose ball/effort guy.

The thing with the Knicks roster construction is this: Jr, Shump, Hardaway Jr....how many shooting guards do we need? 1 of them should go imo. Maybe it should be Shumpert, maybe not. But If its going to be Shumpert it should be for a comparably talented big or a PG upgrade. I just dont see Farried as an upgrade....maybe if you fused him and Bargs in to one body.

Wow. What a jerk

 

Shumpert defers to Anthony and Felton and JR quite a bit. If youre looking at PER Shumpert's value will not be reflected there. He can do a lot more then what the stats show. The best thing they could do for him is to get JR out of there. Unfortunately JR is one of the few capable offensive players when hes hot (which I know is on and off). Shumpert is every bit as good an offensive shooting guard as Farried is at PF is and a much better defender. Farried you know hasnt been taught D because he plays for George Karl and thats only slightly different then playing for Mike Antoni. His defensive rankings reflect as much.


Also just for fun....
Player A 1/5 2 points 5 rebounds 2 blocks
Player B 8/11 21 points 4 rebounds























Player A is Dwight Howard. Player B is Andrea Bargnani shutting him down and playing well for the 4th straight game

 

Fixed. Bargs is playing some really good ball. Cant rebound to save his life but he was hitting jumpers and played good D vs D12.

 

Also can we PLEASE get Melo some legit help. When 45 and 10 rebounds on 17/30 with 4 assists isnt enough to win, your team has a serious problem. Bargs had 24 on 9/12 and the rest of the team aside from those two shot 12/45.

 

Yeah I wasnt thrilled. I understood their ruling but there is no consistency from refs on rule interpretations. They called that Melo was fouled on the first hack before the shot motion was started. The problem is from ref crew to ref crew they call it differently. When NYK played Minnesota a week and a half ago there was a similar play, a deep 2 that was called in a similar situation and I think it was Kevin Martin who got the call. Watching NBA refs is really similar to watching WWE refs sometimes. Very frustrating.

 

I appreciate you brother. I really do.