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How do Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, GM Jeff Ireland survive this?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Nov 9, 2013.

  1. CaribPhin

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    Does tampering with the vote not essentially take Freeman out of the count? You're trying to argue method as if both methods don't take away whatever illusion of self-determination in the locker room that players thought they had. Schiano recognized that outright banning Freeman from the vote would kill his popularity with players and tried to hide it. You're advocating Philbin should have done something that someone so perception unaware as to tell his players to try and cause a fumble on a QB kneel could see would KILL his control over his team.
     
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  2. slickj101

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    One would assume he spoke to the people involved. Again, no charges filed, what else do you want?
     
  3. steveincolorado

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    Maybe you shouldn't get so up tight about my opinions.
     
  4. Ronnie Bass

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    What basis would have Schiano had for taking Freeman out of the voting? Did he sexually assault someone or was it Schiano didn't want him as a captain? BIG difference.

    On a side note I'm a Philbin fan and want him to keep his job but I'm stunned that people in here don't want to hold him accountable for a damn thing.
     
  5. Ronnie Bass

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    I told you what I wanted, why do I have to repeat myself?
     
  6. steveincolorado

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    I would agree with that, IMO, not everything that goes on in that building needs to be made public.
     
  7. CaribPhin

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    This would be like the US government coming out after the last election and sayin "lol jk guys, Romney is president". Personal preferences aside, does that not undermine the whole point of the election? Even closer, imagine if the supreme court had said in 2008, the supreme court had said "nah, we're not gonna let Obama on the ballet because he smoked marijuanas".

    People make ****ty choices in leaders sometimes, some former presidents come to mind. Imagine an entity telling you they think your choice sucks so he can't run at all.
     
  8. Ronnie Bass

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    Wow, congrats you just dove head first into apples and oranges territory.
     
  9. Ronnie Bass

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    I agree too in a sense but when **** hits the fan he will explain what actions he took.
     
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  10. CaribPhin

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    Ben Roethlisberger got suspended by the NFL for alleged rape. Not sure where people were when the media were sidestepping it and begging for their darling QB back because Dixon wasn't good enough.

    Mike Tomlin let him be a captain, he's culpable too I guess.
     
  11. Ronnie Bass

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    Culpable for what? Did he sexually assault anyone after being named captain?

    I'm sorry for being hard on Philbin guys, I will try toe the line more. When the **** did this place turn into FH?
     
  12. CaribPhin

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    Because fart right? Fart is more justification than you've provided for dismissing 2 out of 2 analogies.
     
  13. Ronnie Bass

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    Culpable for what? Did he sexually assault anyone after being named captain?

    I'm sorry for being hard on Philbin guys, I will try toe the line more. When the **** did this place turn into FH?
     
  14. steveincolorado

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    I think he will need to, but only to a certain point. He doesn't have to give any details though.
     
  15. CaribPhin

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    Considering the alleged sexual assault would have happened last year with Bush, Dansby, and Long as the leadership council, did Incognito sexually assault some after being voted to the leadership council?

    What would the issue even be if the assault happened AFTER he made the council? Bad choice in hindsight, sure. If you're trying to argue that Incognito made the council then committed sexual assault, what reason would Philbin have had to deny candidacy?

    If that's not what you're suggesting, you may want to work on better conveying what you're trying to argue with your previous post.
     
  16. ASOT

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    As for Ireland, the champagne is going on ice right now
     
  17. Ronnie Bass

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    Honestly man, you lost me, I don't if you're doing this purpose because you don't care for any opinion that dares be critical of our coach but I have no idea where you're trying to go.

    From now on any critical thoughts I have of our coach I'm just going to keep it to myself, this is not worth my aggravation. Good day mates I'm done here.
     
  18. ASOT

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    This is what they don't want to get. It will tell more about Philbin's true character as we find out his part in the coverup of this incident. He seems like a real nice guy on the outside, but none of us really know the REAL Joe Philbin. Outside appearances are often deceiving, and mask the true nature of someone. Actions and past actions give us the real look into who they are, not who they want us to believe they are.
     
  19. ASOT

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    Dude I am almost convinced some of these people are paid hacks for the team. I've put most of them on the ignore feature.
     
  20. slickj101

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    ldk I was hoping you'd make more sense the second time but not so. Good luck.
     
  21. Ronnie Bass

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    Piss off jerk off
     
  22. slickj101

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    So emotional..
     
  23. Ronnie Bass

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    Don't be an ahole because someone has an opinion you don't agree with.
     
  24. slickj101

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    And what you're doing is??

    I said Philbin investigated and there were no charges filed so what else would you want and you're pouting bc they didn't release all the info which they are in no way inclined to do. Sorry that everything in the world doesn't work as you wish it would.
     
  25. Ronnie Bass

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    Just responding to you being an ahole, I was fine debating you like a gentleman till you got cute telling me I am not making sense and good luck with it, no reason for that just because we disagree.
     
  26. slickj101

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    Again, you're mad that Philbin isn't doing something which he absolutely does not have to, only bc YOU think he should.
     
  27. Ronnie Bass

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    Lol, where did I say I was mad? Where??

    I think this forum should be a place where critical opinions on this team should be accepted, not attacked, this is what separates us from FH, or it use too.
     
  28. slickj101

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    Yea, you def don't sound mad in this thread :whistling:

    Critical opinions and being upset or whatever we want to deem your reaction to be bc things don't work the way you want them to are two diff things.
     
  29. Ronnie Bass

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    The only thing I'm mad at is your conduct towards me, you're just looking to be a prick and get under my skin because you don't care for my opinions. Congrats it worked, hope that made your day, now if you like you can put me on ignore. thanks
     
  30. slickj101

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    Yes, I'm looking to be a prick bc I'm reminding you of what Philbin has no obligation to do. Yes, that's it.
     
  31. Ronnie Bass

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    Now I'm done here, I got to go work now in a pissed off mood. Again my apologies guys for having different opinions, didn't mean any harm by it. Cheers
     
  32. Ronnie Bass

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    Yea yea whatever, like I said go piss off
     
  33. slickj101

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  34. Ronnie Bass

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    What a nice guy you are.
     
  35. slickj101

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    lol And don't send me anymore angry private messages, I won't waste time responding to those.
     
  36. Ronnie Bass

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    I won't, I will just put you on ignore instead, cheers.
     
  37. cuchulainn

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    I find the sheer amount of hypocrisy on the entire matter laughable.

    ESPN has gone out of it's way to attack this issue and Cogs in particular. Have people forgot that they REFUSED to carry the Rothliesburger story?

    Nice... However, all is fair game when it comes to the Dolphins. Here's a good read on the network and commentator's shaping the stories of today - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_ESPN

    As for the Hyde article, he is citing Pro Football Talk and random speculation and knee jerk responses in his article. I expected better from him than to yield to the tactics of Armando or Omar.

    I'm so glad that non of these reporters and former players ever said or did anything stupid while under the influence of booze or other substances (wink wink Michael Irvin, Chris Carter, Warren Sapp, etc...). As far as that goes, I'm glad non of the fans ever have as well. Eh, guys? :shifty:

    I am not trying to defend Cogs for what he said or has done, but people are blurring the lines on the issues at hand and dropping him in a blender with Philbin and Ireland, and bringing up every point of contention. Cogs shouldn't have said the things he did. He definitely was wrong to get drunk and harass the female volunteer. If I am the team I am cutting ties with him. I think Ireland should go as well at this point, but not over this direct issue. Philbin I am willing to give another season to as I like the direction we're heading in. We're very close to being a good football team if we can move beyond the BS.
     
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  38. slickj101

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    Warren Sapp is another hilarious one. He was *****ing about Incognito being this big racist and ******* for the bullying a few days ago. Yesterday, Keyshawn goes on to tell a story about Sapp being a bully in TB until a rookie stood up to him and Sapp predictably backed down.
     
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  39. Ronnie Bass

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    I don't think they are paid hacks, I just think people like slick are not open minded to people who might have different opinions, so they attack them, but like you said best thing to do is just put them on ignore

    And ****, I'm really late for work now :lol:
     
  40. cuchulainn

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    Ah, yes... Mr Congeniality himself, Keyshawn Johnson... not so affectionately known as "ME-shawn", as well as his never ending personal and professional attacks on fellow stej WR, Wayne Chrebet. Keyshawn was so hated that he was traded or released four times in his career. Guess his "star" was really a "flashlight" as well.
     
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