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Miami Dolphins’ Bryant McKinnie expected to start against Patriots

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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  2. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    With the franchise QB on the verge of being injured they just don't have the luxury of waiting even a week. When Ross reportedly met with Ireland and Philbin I wouldn't be surprised if it was to ask them why they're getting his franchise QB murdered.
     
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  3. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Losing Jake Long was a huge step backward, and Tannehill has been suffering those consequences. Martin is sketchy and Clabo is just plain awful, as we all know. McKinnie- we'll see what happens, I guess Martin goes to the right side.

    This thread can probably go into the other one.
     
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  4. Larry Little

    Larry Little Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Something has to be done. Clabo is struggling because of injury, or he's a poor fit in the system, or whatever. At this point, the problem has reached critical mass. He obviously needs to be replaced. McKinnie certainly is not a final answer to the problem... in fact, I think he's a sizeable risk that could emerge as a bigger problem next season... but I do feel he's an improvement.

    So, here we go again. Weeeeee!
     
  5. MikeHoncho

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    two months too late.
     
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  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Let us hope Mt McKinnie is feeling it
     
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  8. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    So a fat Bryant McKinnie, with a bad knee that has to be drained frequently, is put into the lineup while our sketchy LT Martin goes to RT and the current OL disaster dujour, RT Tyson Clabo, goes to the bench. That is just pathetic.

    Part of me would rather see Danny Watkins and and Dallas Thomas take over on the right side. That being said, my best guess is that Martin, Thomas and Watkins are not long term solutions. Add John Jerry to that list and what you have is a overhaul on the OL with the exception of Pouncey and maybe Incognito.

    The Colts signed Xavier Nixon off the Redskins PS- that sounds like a better move to me than picking up a retread like mcKinnie with a busted wheel.
     
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  9. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Well, I don't think that 'being on the verge of being injured' is as important as 'being turned into Joey Harrington' by making the kid gun shy.

    But this move isn't about Martin doing poorly as much as Clabo simply sucking, period... Thing is all Mt. McKinney has ever played is LT...
     
  10. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    We didn't lose Jake, Jake left on his own accord...he didn't want to stay here. Hind sight is 20/20, but looking back at it now, yeah, they could have dipped into fa for a better tackle option than Clabo...
     
  11. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    He cant possibly be any worse.
     
  12. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Regardless of how Jonathan Martin plays, it looks like letting Jake Long walk was a good decision based on his play with the Rams. He's been better than last year, but not worth the contract.
     
  13. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    That's semantics- we lost him, he's gone. No matter how you dice it. That being said, why did Jake leave of his own accord? Because Dawn Aponte was obnoxious in hardball negotiations? Because Joe Philbin is less than charismatic as a head coach and maybe wan't all into the leadership council thing a couple of years ago? Because of Jeff Ireland (state your choice of multiple reasons here)? Because we drafted Jonathan Martin, a LT that played out of position at RT, last year, and he interpreted that as us drafting his replacement?

    Those are all obviously nothing more than guesses. But the fact is that Jake Long is gone, and what we have now is a load of crap at OT.
     
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  14. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I would take Jake Long back in a heartbeat- it wasn't a great ride for him the last couple of years with the multiple injuries, but what happened with Martin moving to LT this year and Clabo at RT is self evident- a disaster.
     
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  15. Disgustipate

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    Jake Long over Jonathan Martin would be a net positive in terms of on the field play(although I don't think as much as you seem to think), but it wouldn't be a particularly resource-efficient move(Long is way overpaid in St.Louis), and I think there were better courses to pursue in retrospect.
     
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  16. Hiruma78

    Hiruma78 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    now we'll focus on Martin....the last game he was awful too.... let's hope for the best, but I am not so optmistic, honestly (but I am quite a pessimistic guy in real life too :lol:)
     
  17. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Re: Miami Dolphins’ Bryant McKinnie expected to start against Patriots

    To be fair, Clabo was a borderline top 5 RT in 2012. His diminishing play to this extent has been surprising.
     
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  18. ASOT

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    It's all a perfect example of Jeff Ireland's leadership (or lack thereof). As long as he is he GM this is what you will have. He was not qualified for the job, and he's not learned enough in 6 full off-seasons to create a winning team. The bloom should be off the rose even to those of his most ardent supporters. Not admitting it now, is burying your head farther into the ground. Ross holding on to this guy just makes it more years we have to suffer though his arrogance & incompetence and I see yet another coach that is going to be sacrificed in order for him to keep his job.

    He has yet to draft a superstar player, or obtain a consistent Pro Bowl Player. 6 freakin years and he can't do it, its not bad luck when its that many years in a row, that is just incompetence.
     
  19. Vertical Limit

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    Well the Patriots defense has a bunch of injuries so I don't expect much pressure from them, but I can still see some false starts and other struggles.
     
  20. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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  21. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Well I see this as a game where the offensive plays well and gives Tannehill time BUT....the defense can't stop Brady and he kills us.
     
  22. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    Was hoping to show some faith in Garner on the right side.
    Nothing to lose, really.
     
  23. 77FinFan

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    "Clabo heads to the bench."
     
  24. JMHPhin

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    I have no problem that we let Jake go it's that we didn't replace him with anybody. Martin was not a surefire replacement ,we took Jordan in the draft and he barely gets on the field. is what it is the new GM will address the tackles
     
  25. LBsFinest

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    This trade reeks of desperation...Martin will probably be benched soon too.
     
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  26. SICK

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    Exactly at the time we signed him, it was being heralded by most "experts". No one could've guessed his play would drop this drastically.
     
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  27. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    with guys like dobson and thompkins, this offense stops itself occasionally. youll see
     
  28. CitizenSnips

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    I dont even ireland would deny fhat this is a desperation move.
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    He left for ONE reason. The Rams offered more guaranteed money. Simple as that.
     
  30. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Have you watched a lot of Rams games? PFF rates him the 8th best LT in the league. Our line would be a lot better if we still had him.
     
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  31. Disgustipate

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    A couple, and I don't think that really reflects the situation that well. A lot of that rating is from penalty(? really?) His run blocking has improved, his pass protection is pretty average, and I think that's about where he is as a player right now.
     
  32. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Our line would be a lot better if we still had him. Right now it looks like Ireland gambled and lost when it comes to the offensive tackle situation.
     
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  33. unluckyluciano

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    Something all the people on here *****ing conveniently overlook
     
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  34. Springveldt

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    As you have pointed out many times before, FA's are usually never worth the contract, you just have to hope you get a decent level of play out of them. The Rams are getting that with Long while we are currently wasting a lot more on a WR.

    Long may be overpaid, but I'd rather have his overpaid *** here protecting our QB instead of the horrendous situation we find ourselves in now. We are now planning on starting a 360lb cast-off with a bum knee, I'm not sure it can get any worse than this.
     
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  35. ASOT

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    Well supposedly Ross called Philbin & Ireland on the carpet after the Buffalo loss, and the next day something happened. So maybe Ross is starting to see Ireland is the real problem.
     
  36. ASOT

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    obviously Atlanta didn't.
     
  37. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    Are people on here Atlanta? What's your point? I'll answer for you you have none.
     
  38. jdang307

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    We offered Jake a competitive contract. I wouldn't say letting him walk was a good decision. I'd say we're lucky he didn't take our offer.
     
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  39. jim1

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    Long swapped out of the lineup for Clabo- not a good swap.
     
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  40. jdang307

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    Interesting enough, the past 3 years Clabo was top 5 by pff for rts. 2011 he was #1. 2012 5th.

    Yet Atlanta cuts him to save $4.5 million. We sign him for $3.5m. Doesn't that sound fishy? Why was there no competition for him?

    Looks like everyone including Jeff Ireland knew he wasn't worth much. It was only fans who we're expecting more.
     

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