That pile of human excrement named Gene Steratore was the referee. He likes *** f**king the Dolphins. Remember the Steelers game from 2010.
It's funny. I have a feeling it'll turn out to be the exact opposite of the Clabo signing. Most of us praised that, most of us hated this. It'll fire right back in our faces. McKinnie's body has not broken down.
Launching or whatever, yea. Could def make that argument considering how unblocked he was and he still hits Tanny helmet to helmet.
If Jeff has a job after this season, Brandon Albert will probably be priority one. A year late. I understand that Martin was young but I doubt we get Albert's talent with the second round pick we refused to give up. Our most recent second round tackle happens to be Jonathan Martin. Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk
Not enough people respected Oregon's defense. We at least got Jordan who I realized is a very big man. I think his height tricked people into thinking he was small. Man he's big. Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk
He did improve a bit this preseason from college tape and his first pro year, he went from incredibly overrated, to really bad, to just bad..
Says the fan of a team that beat the team that beat the team that Peyton built. Who needs to get real here? The 48 players lining up for us right now are the best 48 I have seen since...2008. Maybe even back to the Fiddler days. Sadness
Could be the homer in me, I think Martin has played service ably well, think he will do much better than Clabo at RT, this is why McKinnie matters. TBH, knowing how this franchise does things, think Clabo keeps a roster spot and his job heading up to New England, they have this odd aversion to replacing players, even subpar ones. As if the Pats won't zero in him like a pack of rotties upon seeing a cat with a broken leg. We never seem to learn.
I agree that it's not Clabos fault at all that a team was willing to give him money.. I wouldn't of signed the guy after taking a real close look at his body after it was reported we might be interested, thought he was shot and said so, CK wrote some posts about that were not getting what folks think were getting... looking at his game in isolation it looked painfully obviously this man could not hold up to power anymore, nor did he have the mobility and explosiveness to move people off the ball, and if you can't hold up to power on the rush, your useless.. "he's just a big strong man" Clabo on Mario Williams.. Ireland takes the hit, the clock is ticking, team has to post at least 8 wins for him to keep his job..his team has to show enough mental and physical capacity to rebound and win 5 more games.
We can get 8 wins, even with Speed Bump at RT, the problem is we'll be outta playoff contention by early December b/c AFC teams will own our asses...again. THAT is what should get Ireland canned, you cannot reel off yr after yr of irrelevance and keep your job stocking that team with "talent",
That was a clean hit Jenkins laid on Lewis too. His helmet clearly hit Lewis right shoulder. Ross should pay for that one if he gets fined. That was agreat hit.
Well, I wanted to sign MCkinnie at left tackle for a few reasons this offseason, one was I had 0 faith in Martin, the other was after digging into him this offseason, saw some positive things, my conclusion was he wanted that last decent contract and he got in shape to do it.. It's late, it doesn't absolve Ireland from how I'm personally evaluating him, but it's better than what we had at the position..the guy protected the MVP of the Super Bowl last year, I don't think he was happy with the offer he got from the ravens and he probabaly slacked..
Whoa lets not call clabo a speed bump. Speed bumps generally slow down oncoming traffic. But this whole Ireland thing is an enigma to me. He's iffy on early rounders but he also hits on late to udfa's.
That one still riles me up more than the Darren sharper phantom touchdown against the saints No way to determine possession my a**
The official who was right on top of that play and still too old and blind to see it was #107, line judge Ron Marinucci, of Cinnaminson, N.J. He is now part of Clete Blakeman's crew, so we had them already this season.
Upside with trade. He hasn't cost much. Might give up one less sack but one more QB hit. Bonus!! Downside. McKinnie sucks. Will we notice any improvement? #66 to #65 in rankings. Tannehill must have popped the champagne when he heard the news. Not. It a trade that doesn't impress me in the slightest.
My only concern with Bryant is his motivation. If he wants to play up to his ability, he'll definitely help our pass protection. Guys like Dumervil won't put Bryant on roller skates like they did with Clabo. He has really strong hands too, and once he gets hold of a pass rusher with his hands inside, he is hard to get free of. It is all about how much Bryant wants it. JMO.
I don't recall you saying that he was "just bad" in his preseason tape at the time. Kind of the opposite actually.
Could be a priority regardless of Ireland's status. You don't normally find quality left tackles able to freely change teams during the off season. It may not happen every year, and if it does happen it's usually just one (e.g. Jake Long in 2013). Branden Albert will be leaving Kansas City for certain next off season and that means we should be in play for him. He's only going to be like 29 years old I believe...and I don't know of him having a medical file thicker than a phone book, unlike Long.
I thought Clabo would be a lot better than he has been, to be honest. He was clearly NOT the run blocker anyone thought he was, and you could tell his explosiveness, agility, movement skills were severely diminished. But I saw him as an acceptable absorbing type of pass blocker. He's been getting whipped there non-stop. The other thing I worried about is system translation, going from Atlanta's slower paced system to Miami's hurry-up and faster paced system. I thought there was a good chance he starts wearing down in the fourth quarter or couldn't keep up with the pace. What I kept kind of highlighting was that individually you could look at all of these free agent acquisitions and figure out the silver lining, focus on that and be positive about the signing. Every signing has some kind of silver lining. It's rare to see a signing that doesn't have one at all. But collectively, history shows that every time you sign an outside free agent and count on him to start and/or play a lot for you, it's like pulling the trigger in Russian Roulette. There may be one bullet in the gun but if you pull the trigger six times you're guaranteed to get shot. Counting on outside guys like Mike Wallace, Brandon Gibson, Dustin Keller, Tyson Clabo, Lance Louis, Dimitri Patterson, Brent Grimes, Dannell Ellerbe, Philip Wheeler and Vaughn Martin to come in and play significant roles with the team...it was a huge risk. Individually each move was just one pull of the trigger and there could be a good outcome or a bad one. But collectively, you were just about guaranteed to be shot in the head.
I'm so tired of the refs screwing us. It's not enough that I have to root for a team that hasn't made a Super Bowl appearance in almost 30 years and hope the refs call a fair game? I was referring to us cutting Josh Kaddu finally... remember the whole 53 man cutdown thing? I had him off the roster due to his tweet... yet we never cut him.
Somehow I missed this. Bryant McKinnie has been plagued with a sore knee all season and has had his knee drained at least twice already this season. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...um-ot-bryan-mckinnie-20131021,0,2500923.story
that's you interpreting my comments without understand my context, or missing out on entire posts and forming an uniformed conclusion of my motive. This topic is a perfect example of that because of your comment. Ftr..as many times as anyone would listen I wrote my dislike for the players game, in college, when drafted, all last year, and all offseason, right before the preseason started I said I was gonna wipe the slate clean and give him a legitimate chance to show improvement from where he was last year, considering all the strength work he did, I continually stated that strength was not the only problem this player is weak at, I purposely isolated all his reps in preseason and said, he had improved his game from last year, the whole time being very clear that the improvement or level of jump I saw would go only from real bad to below average, my hope, was that he would be average..My projection has always been he's below average. Your confusing my comparison between Martin and how Jake long performed this preseason..you were wrong on that instance as well.
Whatever you say. I'm not into digging up old posts and waving them in front of peoples faces. But let's just say that when you now try and say that Jonathan Martin only went from "very bad to just bad" during the preseason, I know for a fact we had some very pointed discussions in which you vehemently disagreed that he was performing "bad" in the preseason. I know that. You keep bringing up your draft opinion of Martin but it's a totally separate issue. And what exactly was I wrong about with respect to Jake Long? I think pretty much everyone objective acknowledges he's outperforming Martin. He's middle-of-the-pack on PFF's statistical pass blocking measures, whereas Martin is bottom quartile. There are no statistical measures to rate run blocking, only subjective ones, but for what its worth PFF's run blocking grades rank Jake Long 7th in the NFL whereas Martin ranks 62nd out of 75.
CK... I havent seen this answered directly, so Im gonna throw it out there. How much of the lines problems, are that we are trying to run a particular blocking scheme with players that dont fit that particular blocking scheme. And..if you wouldnt mind...could you briefly explain Zone Blocking vs Man. Thanks
Most pass protection in the NFL is zone-based, so the system thing doesn't really apply much to the pass protection, IMO. Zone blocking as we know it refers to the blocking needed on zone run plays. Those zone run plays will usually be zone stretch or zone cutback, or some refer to it as zone-outside and zone-inside. One could certainly make an argument that between Clabo, Jerry, Incognito and Martin we don't really have the horses needed to run those types of run plays. But on the other hand I don't think Miami is a pure zone run team either, or even close to it. I don't have the figures but I don't think they're pure zone.
Im not CK and Im sure my answer won't be as good or thorough. But Scheme isn't the issue in regard to Martin and Clabo. Some of our sacks, mainly the ones that Miller, Thomas, and the TE's are responsible for, have a lot to do with scheme. I remember against the ravens, Lamar miller picked up the wrong guy completely which gave another a free run at tannehill. That's a scheme thing. But Williams, 1 on 1 with Clabo, has absolutely nothing to do with scheme. Its just Williams beating Clabo. Ditto for the ravens game, it was just Suggs beating Clabo. And if we don't do something, it''l be Chandler Jones beating Clabo on sunday. Mario Williams first sack against us, Clabo doesn't even touch him. Williams fakes outside, goes inside and Clabo is so baffled by the move he doesn't even get a finger on him. Mind blowing that an NFL pro RT can have that happen to him but it is what is. Our tackles just get whipped 1 on 1. They get bullrushed like nobodies business.
Much more, IMO. Predictability in your play calling will definitely impact the pass rush and make it more dangerous. One thing that popped up a lot last year was predictability in the passing lanes and timing allowing the DLs to quickly get their hands up and knock down passes. A lot of people make a big deal out of the "go" versus "go go" thing. I don't think it's that big a deal. On the other hand, it's not a good idea for it to be pretty much 100% predictive of a run or pass play.
But...I know Ive seen other teams use various things to negate hits on their QB's. I remember distinctly them hearing the analysts talk about Atlanta, and how they use quick passing. I know NE used to do this all the time. Why arent we?
We use quick passing all the time. The average time the football comes out of Ryan Tannehill's hand is tied with Peyton Manning for third-fastest in the NFL.
I don't think its any surprise that during the first half we ran the ball more and more effectively than we had been....and Tannehill wasn't sacked or pressured all that much.
oh theres several things we could do. As CK said, we do quick passing. We could not put our tackles on an island all the time as well. I don't want to see Henning's max protect nonsense with only 2 wrs running a route but we could certainly keep the TE in more often. Only criticism with Sherman that i agree with is his lack of creativity in fixing this league known problem of ours. it's horrifying and embarrassing. That said, Mckinnie in a 1 on 1 will be drastically better than Clabo and martin. His run blocking is crap but he WON'T be an embarrassment left on his own. That's why i think he starts right away. We don't need him to know the scheme. We just need him to do what he's best at. Keep the guy in front of him from sacking the QB.
