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Dolphins trade for Bryant Mckinnie

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shaunm000, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    And everything comes full circle. What some of you might not remember is that Ireland had a chance to choose Mckinnie in FA rather than Colombo a couple years back. Many of you at the time actually defended Ireland on the Colombo over Mckinnie decision. This was when Mckinnie was still playing at a pro bowl level. But nope. Turnstile with Colombo. To a turnstile in Martin. Move Martin to LT (where he's still a turnstile) and then Clabo as a turnstile. And now, FINALLY - Mckinnie is a Miami Dolphin. So at this age and shape, he can also be a turnstile on this fantastic line Ireland has spent meticulously building over the last 6 years.
     
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  2. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    we can still play with three receivers and a running back... or two receivers a tight end and a back.
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm guessing somewhere on the offensive line.
     
  4. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Bingo!
     
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  5. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree. A lot of fans disregard the late rounds. If you actually have a GM with a brain, they can be very valuable.

    A 7th is too much, and so his contract.
     
  6. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I keep seeing ....65th vs 66th....

    But..what Im not hearing is....what schemes are both players accustomed to?

    I will say...McKinnie does not seem like a good fit for a zone blocking scheme. Might we be moving to a man?
     
  7. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Me too. I would imagine RT but maybe they'll play him at LT and move Martin back to RT.
     
  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    maybe we can get Drew Brees when he's 42 as well.
     
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  9. FinionNews

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    Update:

    Ravens pay Miami a conditional 7th round pick to take McKinnie off their hands. Rumors are that McKinnie would not agree to the deal until Fins agreed to keep his locker stocked with super sized Twinkies and his own parking spot at the local gentleman's club "Goldrush"
     
  10. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Some of you need to take a chill pill. Reports are we traded a 6th or 7th rounder for him. If he's able to upgrade our play over Clabo and protect, then that is well worth a pick that typically doesn't start anyways.
     
  11. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    This is just a desperation move. They're trying to get to the playoffs and they realize that's not going to happen with Martin and Clabo as the bookends. There are no good scenarios remaining, IMO. The last good scenario that went down is why McKinnie is now available for us (Monroe).

    Don't criticize Ireland for doing the best he can in late October. Criticize Ireland for not doing the best he could back in March through April.
     
  12. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Valuable for what? 7th round picks RARELY do anything for any team. Most of those guys don't even stay in the league.
     
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  13. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I reckon zone blocking went out the window during the bye week.
     
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  14. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    Swamps of Jersey
    Probably the Gentlemen's club.
     
  15. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    Baltimore ran a power run game last season when he was their starter down the stretch and in the Super Bowl. Coincidentally, he was benched to start this season when they switched to a zone-blocking scheme. Actually, that probably wasn't a coincidence.
     
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  16. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Only speaking for myself, but it's not the deal that has me upset. I have no problem with a late round pick for a guy who might improve the O-line. But it's a real kick in the dick that so little was done so late. And it's the guy Ireland should have acquired in free agency 2 years ago instead of Colombo. It's been an absolute comedy of errors at right tackle.
     
  17. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    From Colombo to Martin to Clabo. Probably back to Martin.

    Meanwhile, the Broncos lose Clady for the year and replace him with Chris Clark who is already better than Martin.
     
  18. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Exactly. Other than the timing, which makes no sense to me, this was about the only "outside" move that was available. I presume the coaches, who see them every day, don't feel Garner/Yeatman/whoever are an upgrade so if you want a new body in the mix who might be an upgrade, it was pretty much McKinnie or nothing.

    In hindsight, the 2nd rounder for Albert was a no brainer, but nothing can be done about it now.
     
  19. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    It's almost like pissing in the wind and hoping you don't get wet.
     
  20. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Except that Chris Clark got abused by Mathis last night.
     
  21. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I can see Jim Turner and Bryant McKinnie in "meeting rooms" now joking around about how McKinnie's desk raises a foot off the ground when they show pics of cheerleaders etc etc...
     
  22. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I didn't say he was a Hall of Famer. But he's been damn good for a guy who was cut twice and was an undrafted Free Agent.
     
  23. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    He wasn't that good last night... Almost sent Peyton into retirement. Indy's crowd noise having something to do with that too.
     
  24. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not going to sit here and defend Ireland. I think he's done a below average job and needs to go.

    This move however I think is a necessary move and could potentially be good.

    Keep in mind that while they are close in overall rating, McKinnie is 17 spots higher in pass blocking. I think this move was to prevent RTH from getting murdered.

    It will be interesting to see if he can improve his play on the right side.
     
  25. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Peyton Manning at qb helps though .
     
  26. Phoenician Fan

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    This is a common mistake in logic. Roster positions have to be replaced every year.

    There are guys taken with the 1st pick in the draft who totally bust, and there are undrafted players who become all-pros.

    Every draft pick is precious because attrition is high in the NFL.

    If late round picks are so worthless, what about all the undrafted players who are on active rosters right now?

    There are undrafted and late round guys in the HOF.
     
  27. Anonymous

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    It helps, but it won't turn you from what he was to what he is right now. He's #7 in Pass Blocking efficiency for PFF.
     
  28. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I'm not disagreeing with you. It would be hard for Mckinnie not to be an upgrade.
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I sure don't remember many, if anyone, here defending the signing of Colombo. I remember several here being disappointed we didn't get Brian Waters to play on the OL though.
     
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  30. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    McKinnie was expected to be released after the Monroe trade. As for last week, the coaches were wanting to take another chance on fixing the protection. The OLine protection was better in that they didn't surrender a sack until the 4th qtr, but Tannehill was still hit and pressured throughout the game and shoved down quite a bit. The two 4th qtr sacks and strip fumble was the final straw.
     
  31. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  32. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    In your opinion, apparently. Manning's taken some pretty good hits from the blind side since Clark took over.
     
  33. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I'm just happy we did something. If clabo was starting ever again, I'd scream more and my wife might kick me out of the house.
     
  34. Anonymous

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    I was basing it off PFF. He's been very good.
     
  35. Disgustipate

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    Bryant McKinnie wasn't playing at a Pro Bowl level at that point. He wasn't a good player, and it's been a very long time since he was.
     
  36. Gunner

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    I don't think we could protect THill consistently even if the NFL allowed us an 12th player on offense
     
  37. I am losing more and more confidence in Philbins ability with each week that passes. The players do not look like they are well coached.
     
  38. Foreboding

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    Wow, bad move, he is fat and terrible. I cannot beleive they could not find a better PS option from some team... It is possible he loses the weight and shows up by the last part of the season, but I doubt it.
     
  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    All I care about is that McKinnie has a much better pass blocking efficiency than Clabo, and somewhat better than Martin.
    McKinnie, 217 pass block snaps, 1 sack, 4 hits, 15 hurries.
    Clabo, 249 snaps, 8 sacks, 4 hits, 20 hurries.
    Martin, 249 snaps, 6 sacks, 5 hits, 12 hurries.

    Without being overly emotional, such as I've seen throughout some of the posts in this thread, I'd say there is a decent chance McKinnie can help the pass protection.

    As for the question of whether McKinnie has ever played RT, if he did it was in college. He has only ever been a LT in the NFL, which may partly explain why in 2011, Ireland signed Colombo for RT, rather than McKinnie, considering Long was entrenched at LT at the time.

    I wonder if the trade means we may have new starters at both tackle spots. Garner maybe at RT, and McKinnie at LT?
     
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  40. CitizenSnips

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    I just wish this happened two weeks ago. :(. he'll be so much better than clabo. mckinnies only given up 1 sack this year.
     

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