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Scott Pioli?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bonedoc7777, Dec 22, 2007.

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  1. Bonedoc7777

    Bonedoc7777 New Member

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    Did anybody out there consider the reason why Parcells has said the GM will have final say in player decisions? Is it because that is a promotion for his son in law Pioli from his current job in New England where Belicheck has final say? We all know Bill is very clever in how he works people. We know he hates the Krafts, Do you think what he is saying now is all for a reason?, Do you think he wants to groom Pioli for the long haul when Bill gets out? Sometimes you have to read between the lines in life, I do everyday at work. I think Parcells already knows what he wants to do and may have for weeks before taking the job here. In philly they call it street wise, and bill is a jersey guy.
     
  2. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    Really stretching now aren't you?..................
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Having final say in personnel decisions does not constitute a promotion in comparison to Pioli's current job. Promotions are determined by job titles. Pioli would be the General Manager here, just as he is in New England.

    And I have yet to hear people explain why Scott Pioli would leave New England for Miami in the first place. "He's Parcells' son-in-law" makes no sense, because under the "relationship to Parcells" theory we could expect Bill Belichick to be our coach in 2008. Also, the "Pioli to Miami" talk has been around longer than Parcells.
     
  4. Bonedoc7777

    Bonedoc7777 New Member

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    No, this guy hates the krafts, that is well known up here, Parcells doesnt do something by chance, he never has, something is up, what a better way to screw the cheaters anyway
     
  5. Bonedoc7777

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    It is a promotion if he has final say, he does not in New england
     
  6. Bonedoc7777

    Bonedoc7777 New Member

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    he is not the GM in New England,
     
  7. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    No, it is not. Per NFL regulations, promotions are determined by job titles and organizational hierarchy, not scope of authority.
     
  8. Bonedoc7777

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    Pioli wants to run a franchise by himself eventually
     
  9. Bonedoc7777

    Bonedoc7777 New Member

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    Not occurding to the story in CNNSI today that postulates the same thing I am
     
  10. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Pioli had a chance to run a franchise by himself when Ernie Accorsi retired as GM of the Giants. He turned the job down.

    I don't know why people are so unable to grasp the idea that Scott Pioli may actually be happy in his current job.
     
  11. Bonedoc7777

    Bonedoc7777 New Member

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    He may be happy, parcells would know, he married his daughter
     
  12. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Pioli is Parcell's son-in-law. That's completely irrelevant as to whether or not Pioli would leave New England to become the GM of a divisional rival after repeatedly turning down offers from non-divisional teams.
     
  13. Bonedoc7777

    Bonedoc7777 New Member

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    Only bill would know
     
  14. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wouldn't say someone being family is irrelevant, thats just silly. Parcells might be able to get Pioli to come to Miami if the opportunity long-term looks better here than in New England. He could conceivably replace Parcells in a few years and run the organization, does he have that same opportunity in New England? Maybe maybe not. I don't see the guy leaving the situation in New England, at least not at this point but I don't see how anyone can say that someone being family and being close to someone doesn't matter, thats a little out there.
     
  15. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    It really doesn't matter. The underlying problem is that even if Parcells could convince Pioli to come to Miami, New England would not have to release him from his contract as the Dolphins job wouldn't constitute a promotion. And if there's one thing the Pats will absolutely not do it's letting their best personell guy jump ship to a division rival because his father in law is the VP there.

    The only way of getting Pioli (apart from having to convince him to leave a dynasty in favor of a mess) is to grant him full personell control - which would make the Tuna hiring rather silly.
     
  16. finfansince72

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    Ofcourse being in the same family as someone matters, silly to think otherwise. Ofcourse I don't see it happening for the reasons mentioned here but I think the only thing that gives it a shot is because of their relationship and the fact that he could get inline for a future job here taking complete control. Its a long shot but I think the only thing that gives it any possibility is having Parcells here, any other person in charge and it could never happen.
     
  17. Vendigo

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    In fact, it's the other way round: The Parcell's signing makes it virtually impossible. If Huizenga would have offered the Tuna's job to Pioli, the Pats would have had to let him walk. By hiring Parcells, however, Huizanga quite literally closed the door on Pioli. Sure, you could assume that Bill Belichik is going to say, gee, Scott, of course I don't mind if you make our division rival competitive again and leave us without a proven personell guy, but frankly that sounds like snowball, hell and all that stuff ;)
     
  18. Celtkin

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    Right, he is the V.P. of player personnel. I believe that GM would be a step down, bro
     
  19. Vendigo

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    That's not entirely true. Theoretically, the Dolphins could create a position for Pioli (i.e. "Imperial Supervisor of the Draft and all that Stuff") which on paper would constitute a promotion from his NE job. However, the Patriots could legitimately argue that Pioli's new job wasn't a promotion at all (he doesn't have final say now and wouldn't then) and ultimately block him from leaving.

    The only way of making the Pats let Pioli go is to give him final authority over personell matters. But if we do that, what's Parcells going to do?
     
  20. Desides

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    The NFL front office isn't staffed by a bunch of drones. It's pretty easy to tell when a new job is a promotion and when it isn't.
     
  21. dredd1050

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    Why are we dismissing personal relationships as a factor? Didn't Parcells actually come to Miami because h Wayne and he are personal friends and he said he wouldn't relinquish majority ownership if Bill came down?
     
  22. PhinFantic

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  23. dredd1050

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    Parcells = Palpatine(Darth Sidious)

    Pioli = Anakin Skywalker
     
  24. finfan1966

    finfan1966 New Member

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    I will settle for anyone instead of another draft my Mueller. But hey as long as you know their family its okay - draft them in the first round! We could always use another kick returner for our first pick!
     

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