Merged: Jeff Ireland Extended

This just in:

 

Yea but there's no way he deserved this extension before the year even started...me personally I feel like any talk of an extension shouldn't have taken place anytime before or during the season, only after.

I mean there's a reason this was kept a secret until now.

 

Yes. He also made a critical run stop on third down that kept Atlanta out of the end zone.

 

yes, to avoid backlash from know-it-alls who know nothing-at-all.

 

yeah I always get a chuckle out of seeing that.

 

So far, Ireland clearly on his own the last two seasons, has stocked the roster w/PLAYMAKERS not "blue collar football players" of the previous era.

Consider, Jones, Sturgis, Jordan, Thigpen, Miller,Grimes, Wheeler, Ellerbe etc

He also did not overpay for a clearly declining Jake Long, which to me was surprising.

And most importantly, he finally sacked up, put his balls on the line and drafted Tannehill w/the #8 overall, 3rd Qb taken.

He appears to have FINALLY learned you have to take smart risks to have success in the NFL

All in all, especially in this past draft, he has clearly seen the light.

 

The reports at the time were that it was Ross who wanted Philbin and that Ireland wanted McCoy. It really doesn't matter anymore because Philbin is here and it appears he and Ireland work well together.

 

Ireland deserved an extra year for this year's elaborate offseason plan alone that was likely put into effect last year, if not before. His plan involved building for the future, not a quick, short-lived turnaround ala the Jets or Parcells. Now, considering Ireland took the more time-consuming "future in mind" approach, which is in the organization's best interest, I feel it's only fair to tack on an extra good-faith year to his contract to ensure his approach remained that way without compromise.

Tell me, if you knew earlier this year exactly what Ireland's offseason plans were like Mr Ross did, would you have been soooo against giving him an extra year to see it through to fruition? I mean- it's not like we stood pat and did nothing this offseason.

Seriously, if you knew earlier this year that Ireland would bring in Grimes, Wallace, Gibson, Keller, the draft's top defensive prospect, the draft's top kicker, and swap out the linebackers for a younger and more playmaking capable duo after already having drafted Tannehill, would you really have been this against 1 measly extra year?

 

Remember when people blamed Ireland for not signing Matt Flynn? That dude couldn't beat out Terrell Pryor.*

Since the Tuna has left, he's done a great job.*

Can't agree with trading away B-Marsh or Devone Bess but this team, as currently constructed, is perfectly fine in the WR position.*

 

Breaking news: Rishard Mathews makes the 53 man roster, Lamar Miller named among starters.

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I like the move. I think he's done a good job and not many people realize the turd of the roster he inherited. Rome wasn't built in a day as they say, and you certainly can't build a winning football team overnight. It was always going to take a few years and once he got most of his pieces in place (now), we're reaping the rewards.

 

I think its patently absurd that the accusation was made in response to your post, considering all the negative posts before it that were turning this into "that kind" of Ireland thread.

Me saying this is a bad thing, the accusation in question is not....go figure.

 

With Tannehill alone...the 2012 draft was a success, so I don't see what you are talking about.

 

In 2 drafts if your biggest misses are Kaddu and MAYBE Jelani Jenkins, 4th rd picks, you are doing a good job.

Even then the real GM "gold" is late rd picks, and in that Ireland has done a great job in rds 5-7 the last two drafts.

He also handled the FA signings with aplomb.

 

Charles Clay looks like he was a steal in the sixth round.

 

fml

 

means nothing, he will be fired this off season if we dont make the playoffs.

 

This is a pretty crafty bit of PR. The franchise knows Ireland is unpopular, extended him one year, and did not announce it until the team has won a home game and three in a row. This is the football equivalent of politicians dumping unpopular information on Friday evening or the day before long weekends/holidays.

I would hope the standard is playoff wins, not playoff appearances. Otherwise, agreed.

 

There isn't really a debate at this point.

 

Say what you will about Atlanta's injuries:

But Jon Martin was far and away our best pass protector yesterday against Atlanta.

And to get him and Tannehill with back to back picks.....not too shabby.

Oh....and Jake Long was pulled from the game yesterday due to poor performance. The only knock on Ireland in this respect was even negotiating with Jake Long in the first place.

 

I like what Ireland has done for the most part since shedding the Yoke of Parcells. I mean really, would you rather have Randy Mueller still running the show?

 

Seems futile to me to presently talk in a negative manner about what's in the team's best interest when we've just opened the season 3-0 with back to back wins vs playoff teams. I'd think the 3-0 start is what's in the team's best interest and with nothing else superseding that at the moment. Just my 2 cents.

 

there's a difference if you have a reasonably logical explanation for your naysaying. your posts - which are typically in the middle at best as far as praise for Ireland - at least have some valid reasons to still retain some cynicism. I just get tired of the same negative rants based on logic (or lack thereof) from arguments that are 2 years old. Right now, the team is riding high. If we come out of the Baltimore game at 4-1, that's a resounding success to start the season. But our biggest hurdle is still the Patriots. If we start 4-1 and split with the Patriots, then we have a good chance to win this division. and that's based on talent and coaching staff. If we lose the next two and get swept by the patriots, then we know we still have a ways to go.

 

I second this..... plus a few other posters added to the list who annoyingly throw out peanut gallery Ireland comments around every turn. I don't think it's fair to lump our reactions toward those posters in with everyone else who voices a concern in a legitimate, non overbearing, non annoying fashion. LB and the like makes their own bed so I'm not sure why CK feels the need to stand up for that type of posting.

 

To be fair to the "Ireland detractors". They were told that overall team record should not be used as a measuring stick for a GMs success. Now those same people are doing just that....using the current 3-0 record as evidence of a good job.

It's hypocritical.

 

Yes, but what if your goal is to set up a series of contrived, vaguely controversial positions with the goal of hanging your hat on the ones that are not clearly wrong a little bit down the road?

 

I disagree with the logic behind this post, and it's not hypocritical. Firstly, you're taking those prior arguments out of context. No one ever said losing is acceptable. All that was explained was that there were too many extenuating circumstances involved in our losing to point a finger at Ireland when he wasn't in full control of the team and when we were subsequently in his team's transition phase in 2011-12, with a lame duck Sparano to boot.

Secondly, a 3-0 start is a 3-0 start. It might not be evidence of a "good job" per se b/c it's a small sample size, however it IS sufficient to show we're currently doing a good enough to perhaps get the whiny Ireland haters to STFU and give it a damn rest for the moment. Is that too much to ask for?

 

then I would say I guess that's a good job of attempting to cover all the bases. lol

 

Matt Millen lol that dude is out there somewhere as a gm of some fantasy football team made up of nothing but receivers.
But since Ireland has been let out from under the tunas rule he has had solid drafts and fa acquisitions

 

smh.

 

Negative reactions are allowed and in fact encouraged to a degree because without them we'd have no discussion. Theres a way to do it and a way not to do it though. The way you do it is with facts and you present an argument. The way many others do it is the same. The way a few do it is to present a blanket statement like "so and so sucks" and all thats going to do is incite a bunch of harsh responses about the guy trolling and frankly with such little substance it practically is trolling. And when the same people are negative all the time that kind of builds a reputation.

You have had discussions with me about how we can keep the board at a high level correct? Isnt one of the ways to limit posts that ruin threads?