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Ireland addresses state of franchise

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CrunchTime, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    Asked how far along the Dolphins are, Ireland said: "We have some things we need to see developed. We’ve put a lot of resources into certain positions where we feel we’re going to be good for a while. We’ve obviously got some pieces we’ve got to address. I’m not going to name them on the air. Some of them are obvious, some of them maybe not so obvious.”

    On particular players

    There is a lot more .Its worth a read :yes:
     
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  2. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Did he address his pasty gingerness?
     
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  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hmm, did he put his pitchfork in the corner and wear a hat to cover his horns?
     
  4. ChrisKo

    ChrisKo Season Ticket Holder

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    Richie is just an awesome man! I hope we actually keep him around after this season.
     
  5. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Yeah, what he really meant was that he was tired of that fat bastid, Jerry, stealing his Oreo's and Ding Dongs. lol...
     
  6. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    He thinks Miller and Thomas will form a nice 1-2 punch? Well there goes the hope of him letting go of Thomas
     
  7. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Thomas will be given this season to prove himself whether people like it or not. He's still a young player but this will likely be his last chance to make it here.
     
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  8. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    The likely hood of Thomas getting cut was slim to none anyway. If Thomas goes into the season as #2, it's no guarantee it will stay that way. Lamar Miller ended up stealing reps away at the end of last year from Thomas. Unlike Miller, Gray doesn't seem to have the blocking identification issues Miller had. If DT doesn't produce, I have no doubt Gray will take carries away. Especially in short yardage.
     
  9. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That may be sig worthy.....:yes:
     
  10. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Unlike Miller, Gray doesn't have elite speed, quickness and explosion?
     
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  11. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I agree. I don't think Gray is going to take carries from Miller. I think Miller is super talented and will surprise most NFL pundits and fans. Miller didn't see a ton of action last year because of his issues with pass protection. If he didn't have those issues, I think he would of taken DT's job away outright at some point and become the #2 back. Seeing as Miller is #1 and DT is #2, I think it's possible Gray supplants Thomas as #2 as the season goes forward... Assuming DT continues to be mediocre.
     
  12. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    well, if Thomas hypothetically contributes to a good 1-2 punch, why would you want to let him go? Wouldn't it be in our best interest to have Thomas show up and perform well than hope he flops so we can cut him? Heck, why stop there? Why not hope Tannehill flops as well? Why not hope for a blown-out Mike Wallace knee?
     
  13. LBsFinest

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    I doubt that...Jake Long passed on us, not vice-versa.
     
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  14. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    As far as I know, Miami offered a "competitive" deal. Unless someone has actual numbers, we didn't offer a better deal than St. Louis. We had every opportunity and the cap space to pull the trigger and we didn't. ATEOTD, I think there's truth to what Ireland is saying. We also didn't pull the trigger on Albert, so there must of been some confidence in Martin. Even if it isn't ironclad.
     
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  15. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Unless Thomas puts away his vagina he will continue to be less than mediocre. I hit the ground harder after passing out drunk than he hits the hole running.
     
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  16. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I just don't get Ireland's relentless enamored-ness with Thomas. He continues to show little or nothing. He did come into camp in great shape but I remain unimpressed by his running.

    I hope I'm wrong because I want every player on the team to succeed. But, if a kid like Gray gets cut or never sees action and we get a year of Thomas and 3.0 ypc, it will be very frustrating.
     
  17. ASOT

    ASOT New Member

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    No Ireland didn't want to look bad, and is gambling, plain & simple.

    Look, we paid a # 2 pick to move up to # 3 in the draft, and the player you took, can't get on the field. You have the chance to replace Long with a top valued OL, and instead passed and took a player that MIGHT play on 3rd downs, at least the 1st couple of years.

    Unless this works out, Ireland has once again blown it, and set the franchise back. Yet he's still here.....:pity:
     
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  18. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Of course Ireland thinks Thomas is a decent NFL RB. He traded up to draft him and he just can't admit that Thomas has been another failed draft pick. I expect Thomas to make the team, but I also expect him to get injured AGAIN, and end up spending most of the season on the injury list.

    I'll believe in Ireland only when this team actually has more wins than losses in the regular season. Until that happens, I will continue to feel that he is one of the worst GM's in the NFL. Spending a lot of money in free agency doesn't make someone a good GM. To me, the Dolphins must finish at least 9-7 this year or else Ireland has to go.
     
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  19. ASOT

    ASOT New Member

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    Get ready for the assault of the homers......we're both in for a tough day around here.
     
  20. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    That likely applies to all HBs.
     
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  21. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    2008 says hi. :confused:
     
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  22. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Why? The majority here seem to dislike Thomas.
     
  23. ASOT

    ASOT New Member

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    2008 also says hello to the weakest schedule in the league, and no Tom Brady
     
  24. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    Now you're just being absurd. Is anyone here myopic to think that Jordan won't be starting for us next year? We have a very good front 4 on the DL. We have 3 good LBs to boot. We have the luxury of using Jordan based on his strengths only. that will only make our defense better. as Jordan gets healthy and acclimates to the NFL, gets stronger... he'll be one of our best front 7.
     
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  25. ASOT

    ASOT New Member

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    We've both stated our dislike and distrust of Ireland this morning.
     
  26. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    did we play Tom Brady 11 times that year? and hate to tell you bud, but a lot of teams with great records had favorable schedules that year or play in a really weak division.
     
  27. ASOT

    ASOT New Member

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    What's absurd about trying to win NOW. Ireland passed on trying to help the immediate team for a possible future ? You've just had 4 losing seasons in a row. Urgency was needed here not the luxury of waiting for the future.
     
  28. ASOT

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    We also had Pennington drop from the sky and have one of if not his best season ever, combined with the easiest schedule and no Tom Brady. If Pennington does not do that, and we'd have gone with Cade McCown as it was looking, do you really think we'd have won 11 games that year ?
     
  29. Stringer Bell

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    Pennington didn't drop from the sky. He was a FA.

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  30. 5ringshowboutU

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    2008 was five years ago. I don't understand how 11-5 five years ago gets you a pass for not having a winning season the next five years.

    Jeff ireland is the best gm in the nfl :/.
     
  31. 5ringshowboutU

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    And on top of that a blowout loss in the first round to the ravens. Dont act like jeffie made us some all world team in 08.
     
  32. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    that's because you're not a j.ireland cultist
     
  33. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Yeah, it was pretty obvious that he wanted to be anywhere but here... He moved on and that's fine.
     
  34. Fin D

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    It doesn't and no one said it did.

    What was said was, "I'll believe in Ireland only when this team actually has more wins than losses in the regular season." Another poster pointed out that already happened in 2008 as a statement of fact, nothing more.
     
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  35. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Yea, he was a free agent, but who here ever thought in June of that year, that he'd drop in to us ?? He had a prior relationship with the Fatcells and that's why he ended up here, giving us a legit, albeit flawed veteran QB to lead this team. Couple that with the weak schedule and Brady's injury and suddenly we're in the playoffs... We all knew it was a flawed team, but yeah, those factors made the difference..
     
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  36. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    This. Ireland is clearly not the best GM in the league (I'd kill to have Ozzie Newson for example), but the team did have a winning record under Ireland already so there should be a modicum of belief in him. Doesn't mean you need to have a lot of belief, but you have to recognize that the playoffs are actually possible while he runs the team.
     
  37. Stitches

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    We finished 11-5, but still lost to NE once (and I would argue the win we had was a result of the NE defense not because of shortcomings in their offense; it was the wildcat game), so at best with Brady not injured we would be 10-6. That may have made us miss the playoffs, but we still would have had a winning record.
     
  38. Desides

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    The facts that Ireland tried to re-sign Long and tried to trade for Albert, and spent last season swearing up and down that Martin wasn't drafted to replace Long in a year, disproves Ireland's "of course Martin at LT was the plan all along" assertion.

    What? Which Daniel Thomas is this, Jeff?
     
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  39. Joe Robbie

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    For the people referring to 2008: I thought Parcells was running the show, while Opie just sat there, and watched with his thumbs up his ***?
     
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  40. jw3102

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    I just don't get it. It seems most people on here want to blame Parcells for the bad drafts and bad free agent selections while he was with the Dolphins. Yet you want Ireland to receive the credit for the 2008 team. I'll bite, but that doesn't give him a pass for the past four years when the team never finished above 500.

    I have said many times that Ireland should be retained as the teams GM if the Dolphins finish above 500 this year. I am just not convinced that he made the right decisions in free agency or in selecting Tannehill in 2012. Of course the team has every opportunity to prove me wrong this year and I hope they do.

    My question to you is, if the Dolphins finish 8-8 or worse, do you still think Ireland should remain the teams GM beyond this year?
     

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