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Why does Bumphis' showing have anything to do with Gibson over Bess? Statistically speaking Gibson was better than Bess last year anyway.

 

What? Its the first of five preseason games. Did you want them to run fly patterns all night?

 

I also take issue with someone criticizing the play calling in a game where they likely didn't even put in a full game plan. It cracks me up when folks talk about play calling and a lack of aggression in the first preseason game.

 

If that were true..it would make Bumphis' road ahead to unseat Gibson that much harder.

 

No, I wanted them to take the field with battle axes and commit several homicides. Then have Philbin have Jerry Jones murdered with a Ice Pick.

 

It shouldn't crack you up.

Ever heard of play like you practice? Ever heard of installing your "program"?

I saw a bunch of one read bull**** in the passing game. As if we still needed to protect our QB's. Precisely because it was a meaningless game, is why you open the playbook and ASK MORE of your QB to see if he can handle it.

 

Yea, I saw someone on ESPN talk about the lack of aggression and was like, "seriously?" It's the first preseason game and multiple people were out.

 

hmmm. not so sure. Clay's TD vs. the Colts had to be a bigger play. Anyway, that says more about our TE's than it does Egnew.

as for the second question..no, you are probably right on this one, but I am just saying that I can't get excited over a longshot to contribute, which I still consider Bumphis.

 

I don't understand...if what was true?

 

Lots of getting worked up over a "dippin' the toes in the water" pre-season game. Can't wait to see the reactions to the first regular season loss.

Relax people, enjoy the fact we didn't come out of this game with any serious injuries and got a chance to see some action from our lesser-known players who may end up impacting the team (in a good way, I hope).

 

But it still invalidates the previous statement about this being the first time we've seen Egnew look competent in two years.

Fair enough. But keep in mind, injuries do happen. And so do Legedu Naanees. As potentially the best slot receiver on the team, sitting behind a guy who most people back in St. Louis consider to be better off on the outside than in the slot, a Chad Bumphis could be closer to significant playing time than you think. One Brian Hartline calf strain and Chad Bumphis is the third WR on a team that favors 3-WR personnel.

 

if Gibson was Better than Bess last year.

 

I honestly don't even see how its questionable.

Bess:
61 catches for 778 yards. 12.8 yards a catch. 38 first downs and 1 TD.

Gibson:
51 catches for 691 yards. 13.5 yards a catch. 43 first downs and 5 TDs.

Plus Gibson can play outside if need be. Its not even a contest.

 

I just retweeted something Derrick Shelby just tweeted.

"While driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and instinctively swerved to avoid it... Thanks Mario Kart."

#AllStar

 

It's just an opinion. One may have been more statistically successful, but you could still think someone less heralded did their job better.

 

Bumphis played fine, so people have agendas and will not listen to anything others say. Tannehill needs to play MUCH better, but I would have preferred him staying in until the end of the third series. He completes a couple of passes, finally gets into rythm a bit, and they take him out. Jordan looks good. The Rbs looks fine. Honestly a bunch of players didnt play, I just looked at individual performances.

 

If he were to run it over, all he would need to do is let of the gas temporarily.

 

Thats pretty fun.

 

Gibson played 3 more games. Who was better, is a matter of opinion.

 

The thing that intrigues me about Bumphis is that he continues to make big plays. Last week in the scrimmage he whipped out a big play that got him to 2 catches and 42 yards. This week a 45 yard catch that got him to 5 catches and 85 yards. That's an 18.1 yards per catch average on 7 catches, for a guy I think we can all objectivly verify is not overly fast.

Sort of like how a primarily slot-based wide receiver averaged 15.9 yards per catch in the SEC last year, to go along with 12 touchdowns, on 58 catches. Just sayin it's something to keep an eye on.

Mind you I wouldn't precisely call him slow as molasses, either. He ran a 4.55 at his pro day. Davone Bess ran like a 4.70 at his pro day, and Brandon Gibson ran a 4.59 at his. Brian Hartline ran a 4.52 at the Combine and 4.49 at his pro day.

 

His averages are better and he was one of 3 receivers, while Bess was really one of two.

Everything is matter of opinion...and yet many opinions are wrong. Gibson's numbers were objectively better and he's more versatile.

 

Miller is over rated and over hyped. He put the ball on the ground on his first carry as an NFL starter.
It worries me that we gave away our best playmaker to rely on an unproven mistake prone running back.
That fumble was no fluke. It will happen again possibly in a crucial time in a ballgame.Costing us.
I just don't see all the fan love over this guy. I don't think he is as good as the fanbase thinks he is.

 

Lamar Miller wasn't a fumbler at The U. I think some early game jitters happened here...first time playing in like 8 months.

 

Wow, this is terrible analysis of Miller, no offense man.

 

If you take away the two touchdowns we gave them via turnovers, and take away from us that weird touchdown on the tipped ball at the end, we win 13-10. Would that have made any of you feel better about the game?

It was 60 minutes of suckhood by scrubs for both teams, depending only on the way the ball bounced. If this were anything but practice, would we have gone for all those fourth and ones instead of kicking field goals? If we had, we would have won 26-24.

It was practice. It bore no reasonable relationship to what will happen when the games count. You cannot prdict a season record based on the. Performance in practice of a lot of people who will never see the field this season.

 

How the hell is he a "mistake prone" runningback?

he had a very good rookie year, and was NEVER a fumbler at the U. In fact, he was a top performer and big game player at the U.

What you are saying is not correlating with reality.

 

After watching it again, it looks like he wasn't expecting the ball. Let's hope that's not the case.

 

Miller didn't have a fumble problem in college. Didn't have any fumbles last year.

Lemme guess....its because of the way he talks?

 

As a rookie Miller came in off the bench after Bush did all the heavy lifting. His rookie season doesn't mean a damn thing. Neither does his college career.
I see him come in and put the ball on the ground right off the bat in his first carry as a starter. We will be seeing more of this from him I'm afraid.

 

Did you see the speed at which he ran through those creases untouched on the two runs after the fumble? Without dancing?
I'm sure Philbin saw it, and has seen it before.

 

It's not inaccurate to label Lamar Miller's rookie season a "mistake prone" season.

He made a lot of mistakes with respect to the playbook and his assignments. That was the primary reason they kept him on the bench most of the year. We all heard about the problems in that regard. So let's not jump all over a guy just because he's not quite sold on a player that other people are sold on.

I just don't think it's accurate to call him a fumbler since he never was a fumbler in college.

 

So those two runs justify giving away easy points. I'm not buying it.

 

Nothing justifies fumbling.
Those two runs show what he can do when he doesn't fumble.
I was impressed. I've been watching too many dancers on this team.

 

Can't teach awareness, and he has it in spades, seems like a head-y player.

 

Pardon my Swahili, but this is complete and utter nonsense.

 

And he's very quick in a direction change sense. Comfortable with physicality.

Honestly I do see Section126's mindset that we can get caught up talking about what Jonas Gray or Michael Egnew did out there, but let's face it we didn't see things that make us say holy cow that dude's a starter. Even with Dion Jordan I'm not sure we can say that. Same is true of Derrick Shelby. Some nice, positive signs? Sure. But nothing that we set aside and say wow we might have just found out something today, something that could actually impact the team.

I mean if you think highly of Dion Jordan's performance last night you probably already thought highly of him based on his college record, the draft, and the reports out of training camp. Did you find out anything last night? No.

Maybe some folks found out some things about Jonas Gray but not necessarily me. I knew he was decent already. I didn't suddenly find out he's a starting caliber NFL tailback. We need to see more, and he needs to clean a few things up.

Mike Pouncey was probably the best performing player on either side of the ball and he only played like 11 snaps. But did we find out anything we didn't know, there? No.

To me personally there were three revelations during the game, varying in importance. Three things I genuinely didn't know, but now I do.

1. Chad Bumphis play making ability is for real.
2. Michael Egnew is capable of looking aggressive in blocking.
3. Dallas Thomas is not to be trusted in pass protection at tackle.

 

Did Miller not come off the bench as a sub for Bush last season.
Is pro football a different game than college.
Did Miller not fumble last night and give away easy points.
It's not nonsense it is called reality.

 

I'm not sure how anyone can say Reggie Bush did any lifting, nevermind heavy lifting. The guy was not a very good RB. Its clear who the best runner was last season, and it was Lamar Miller.

 

That one play is a reality, sure, but so are trends. And Lamar Miller's trends strongly suggest he won't be a consistent fumbler.

 

I dunno. I saw Peyton Manning throw an interception once. All signs point to him being the worst QB ever.