There are guys that have played QB their entire lives, will every bit the talent of Ryan Tannehill who don't make it in this league. Take Chad Henne for instance, who started at every level he ever played QB and put up the numbers. He got to the NFL and flop. If Tannehill makes it in this league, it will be nothing short of a minor miracle. I wish the kid every bit of luck....I mean that.
Leave the guy alone.. can't you see it wikk only lead to wasted GB space on the forum. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
It's easy to see now, that anyone with a different opinion than your own, is considered a troll. Please, just put me on ignore, before I call you out for what YOU really are and do get banned. Please, they have ignore, use it bud.
Sigh. RT: 484 | 774 | 62.5 | 5450 | 7.0 | 6.9 | 42 | 21 | 134.2 AR: 424 | 665 | 63.8 | 5469 | 8.2 | 8.6 | 43 | 13 | 150.3 College numbers of Ryan Tannehill vs. Aaron Rodgers. Each played QB for two seasons. Tannehill at more attempts. Your theory is stupid.
Mike Wallace yds/reception 19.4 NFL rank #1 in 2009 Mike Wallace yds/reception 21.0 NFL rank #2 in 2010 Mike Wallace receiving yards 1257 NFL rank #5 in 2010 Mike Wallace Touchdowns 10 in 2010 which is #7 Brandon Gibson had the very best conversion percentage for first down or TD's just last year, he makes plays Have you watched preseason before? They are for evaluating, the game was admittedly sloppy but we gifted them 14 points early and only lost by 4.
I thought the OL was a major concern going into the game and I feel even more concerned after the game last night. I just don't think they have five quality starters on this unit. As bad as Martin is, they have absolutely no one to fill in for him if he is injured or just proves to be overwhelmed at LT. The overall depth of this entire unit is weak and this Line might prove to be the unit which prevents this team from improvement this year. The defense overall did a lousy job of tackling and giving up five yards a carry to the Cowboys was terrible. It appears that the overall depth on the roster is below average and hopefully the starters won't suffer a lot of injuries this season. While the defensive line is suppose to be the strength of this team. You just have to wonder if they have looked so good in camp because they are going against what might end up to be one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL this year. I realize it is just a preseason game and they have several more weeks to improve. I just didn't see many positives last night which gives me hope this roster is good enough to be a playoff contender in 2013. Hopefully the entire team will show more against the Jags on Friday night.
Most NFL analysts have said Ryan Tannehill would have been the number one overall pick this year at QB....and you don't think he has talent
This has nothing to do with your opinion. It has everything to do with the lies you're trying to pass off as fact. Truth #1: Tannehill played QB before college. Truth #2: Less than half of the defense will have new starters. Truth #3. Both Wallace and Gibson have lead offensive stat categories. Wallace a significant amount, in fact. And Gibson had the highest impact plays to receptions ratio out of anyone. Something like only 3 of his catches last year weren't for a TD or 1st down. Truth #4: Wallace has had more than 8TDs in a year. That's just the lies debunked in that one post of yours.
I was an avid henne fan. really liked him. with that said, your nuts if you put tannehill and hom on the same level. tanny is a higher class all around.
You cannot make the blind see... Tannehill played in a defenseless conference - Rodgers did not. Do I really need to list the stats of Rodgers and Tannehill in their first seasons as starters in the NFL?!? Ryan Tannehill is no Aaron Rodgers, which your comparison of stats in college would seem to indicate that you actually believe. Rodgers had a 94 QB rating his first full season and over 100 every season since - Tannehill will never sniff 100.
I find this argument sloppy and needing improvement. But then, its okay because its just a preseason argument.
You miss my point. It is not easy to play QB in the NFL and guys that have been doing it since high school have come to this level and failed. Tannehill is a long ways from being a great QB in the NFL. As much as the thought of that sucks for every Dolphins fan, myself included, it's the truth.
You're not breaking new ground, Troll. I know what you're doing. I didn't say they were the same. YOU said Tannehill won't make it because he lacks experience. I debunked that stupid notion, by pointing out a QB who has made it with less reps than Tannehill. Not only is it a recent example, but its an example of a QB with limited experience making it in the very same offense. As for the rest of your BS...do i need to point out Tannehill started as a rookie and Rodgers didn't until he had been in the league a number of years first?
Right or wrong, I think I would have thrown myself out the window if this team had panicked and traded up to get Lane Johnson. Plus, it's looking like Jordan is the real deal. You can never have too many pass rushers. I think the Giants showed us that against the Pats. Twice.
Seriously, why make an absurd declaration like this? You have one season of evidence, where Ryan Tannehill played his first full season after not having a ton of starts in college, and he played with a receiving corps of Hartiline, Bess, and an irregulatr rotation of Legadu Naanee and the Pips. Tannehill's QBR will almost certainly improve this year by virtue of just having some better weapons and a year in the league. And as he gets confidence and more playing time in the league, I don't think anyone knows how well or poorly he'll do. But proclaiming he'll never "sniff" a QBR rating of 100 is pretty arrogant and confident in Tannehill's failure. I don't buy it. Aaron Rodgers sat his first full season, and during that season in training camp, several players/teammates were questioning his skills at the time. He got on the field and proved people wrong. Tannehill can do the same - he just didn't have that one season to sit and learn. However, again, the biggest problem lots of posters have, is just that a statement like, "Tannehill will never sniff 100" is just a huge overreaction that really doesn't have a lot of basis. It's one of those things where you're right until he proves you wrong, and once proven wrong, you say, well, I always really hoped he'd be good. How about just not making rash over-statements to begin with?
Aaron Rodgers was a backup for 3 years before he started. Tannehill started as a rookie. You can't seriously compare first years being the starter.
I agree with what most have posted here in regards to O-line, smarter runs by RBs, better tackling, etc. Even down 17-0, I really wasn't worried, nor panicky. It's just a preseason game, and we still have 4 left. All good. I was mostly impressed with Eggie, and pretty soured on Pressley. Let's see what happens next game.
As far as my priorities go, let's say the Dolphins tomorrow traded for a Branden Albert or Eugene Monroe, I would be damn near ready to predict a playoff berth for the team. So that should tell you how much I consider that position a priority.
given how young he is and that he was playing wr 3 years ago, im amazed by tannehill. your right, he isn't great (yet), but this year could be gigantic for him and this franchise. maybe it won't work out, but why does it seem like that's what you want...
Overall, the D wasn't awful. Really only gave up 10 points. But, we all saw the several missed tackles. Not good. But, the one thing im going to keep an eye on this preseason is the run D. It looked bad last night for the most part. Ellerbe didn't play and neither did Starks, odrick, or OV, so there's that. It'll be interesting to see if Wheeler and ellerbe can at least be close to Burnett and dansby in production in this department.
setting the bar too low imo. wheeler was flying around last night. I think hes going to be awesome. odrick and starks bring out was huge for the run d. I expect huge increase when their in
He was playing WR, but he was still in the QB meetings. I mean people are criticizing him for doing whatever to help his team win? If he had just been the straight backup QB with no other responsibilities until he took over the starting job would anyone be even trying to claim "oh this guy sucks, he wasn't even playing QB three years ago." It's a bunch of BS if you ask me.
I wasn't thrilled with the D, I expected more but with the amount of guys we kept out on the dline they played ok. The offense on the other hand looked rough. We'll see after they get some more time together. Biggest problem I saw was at left tackle just like we were concerned about. Hopefully Martin can improve by the start of the season or it is going to be a long year for Tannehill.
Just adding my 2 cents. Most of it has been said already. Here's what I took away from the game... - Generally a sloppy performance, but hey it's the first of 5 games. - We need LT depth - Dallas Thomas was a turnstile. - Can't read too much into the offense without seeing Wallace and Hartline on the field. But IMO offensive timing will come for Tanny. - I think the defense is going to be awesome. Jordan and Shelby were impressive. Imagine when we have Ellerbe, Starks, Odrick, Vernon out there. - I think Philbin needs to work on tackling this week - too many misses. - Not sure about Daniel Thomas - Jonas Gray looked good and may be able to replace Thomas if he keeps it up. - Bumphis will make this team. Looks like he climbed ahead of McNutt on the depth chart. - Despite the nightmare start, Miller flashed. I think he'll be just fine.
I think an important note about the defense and tackling in the run game was the general aggressiveness of the defense. They ran quite a bit of slants and run blitzing and gambled in a way that made missed tackles harder to recover from.
I don't know about McNutt being behind Bumphis just yet.....yes Bumphis outside of his drop I thought was very impressive. But I didn't really see McNutt except for the first 2 drives and he had 2 balls thrown to him that were poor on Tannehill's part. Having said that, I fully expect him to catch that first pass the second one not so much.
Roll back a year in time to last year's preseason. We looked bad all over the place... real bad. A lot of the prognosticators (Mike and Mike, for instance, were guessing we were a 4-win team) were really down on us, and it seemed like they had reason to be. I'm not sure what it says about Philbin and staff -- and it may not say anything at all -- in regards to how they prepare the squad for preseason games. Have we won even one since Philbin's been the coach? If so, it's only one, but I think we're 0-5. And really, last year, it looked bleak. The offense, first and foremost, especially resolving questions about the QB position and then the lack of an explosive receiving corps, but the defense in the preseason looked wretched. Last year's preseason run-stopping and tackling evoked some of my old fears, ergo: are we going back to the defense of Cam Cameron's year? Well, as specific to the run defense, once the season started, those fears were pretty much allayed. I think it'll be much the same this season once the season starts. Last night, playing with Wake maybe a series and without Odrick, Starks, Vernon, and Ellerbe (you rightly mentioned those absences), let's face it, most of that game was played without guys who will be logging the most snaps once the real bullets fly. Really, in the end, I think our run defense will end up being the least of our worries. I guess that's one thing you can keep your eye on, but my eyes are probably going to be trained much more on LT, Tannehill's progression and his chemistry with the WRs, and our pass defense, which let's face it, was much more problematic than the run D last year.
I think they're going to reward Bumphis for his good game. They rewarded McNutt for a good scrimmage. Bumphis had a good scrimmage AND a good game.
Davis played better than either, and we just signed him! That was a plus. - Dallas Thomas at LT was a complete joke! In a bad way. - Lamar Miller will be dynamic! - The Run-D was pathetic, but shouldn't be a concern with the starters. - Tannehill wasn't on page with the receivers, but Hartline and Wallace weren't in. I'm not in panic mode or anything, but if they don't trample the Jags, I will be concerned...
Just wanted to add this so that we all breathe into a paper bag and keep things in perspective this pre-season: "Bill Belichick has compiled an overall record of 39-34 (.534) in the preseason, including a 28-25 (.528) mark as Patriots head coach. Belichick’s teams have been .500 or above in 15 of his 18 previous preseasons as a head coach in the NFL."
Also, every time the Dolphins have lost the Hall of Fame game they went on to have a winning regular season.
Only 3 receivers have averaged 1000+ yards and 8+ TDs the past 4 years, genius. Wallace is one of them. Everything else you're saying is equally poor and over-reactionary. No let's not do this. Go spend a few hours reading through old threads to find your answers b/c no one should have to dignify such verbal diarrhea with a response. BTW, we have a rant forum you might find quite cozy.
Steve Young says hello, and what Henne did or didn't do has no relevance to Tannehill's future. That's just silly. and? So was Mike McCarthy when he went 13-3 and lost the NFC Championship game in OT. That was done by choice to improve a unit that was already strong. You need to take a chill pill man.
