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God D*** im excited

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CitizenSnips, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Let's get PUMPED!

    I used to watch the steelers highlights and it seemed at least once every other game Mike Wallace would score on a deep ball by doing absolutely nothing but out running the opposing Cb. Can you imagine seeing that? We've seen that once in the past ten years. It was Henne to Ginn against the jets. Imagine if Tannehill and Wallace hook up like that on a regular basis? God damn that's going to be something. Hartline must have smiled ear to ear when we got wallace cause wallace makes his life so much easier. You HAVE to respect wallace, even if he doesn't do anything, the threat is there. Safeties can't creep up, corners got to stay back. The opportunities for Hartline, Gibson, and Keller/Sims are going to be there. WOO!

    A lot of my friends are telling me to be cautious about Tannehill because they believe he's false hope. **** THAT. 7-9 as a rook, with no one to throw to but hartline (whose talents do not include making big plays save for that arizona game), and a running game that never really provided any consistency whatsoever. Ryan is definitely poised to take off this seas and we've seen it from a lot of media outlets saying the same.

    We're one of the sexiest dark horse picks there is nowadays. Patriots sign tebow, te's a murderer, other one is already broken, letting welker walk, letting Lloyd walk (he was better for them than most remember), oh man. The door is opening guys. I don't want to completely discredit the bills and jets (ok...yeah i do). The bills? Ej Manual? For ****s sake, wtf are they doing. Anyway, the jets i bet surprise people a little bit this year. Not as a great team, but a not so terrible one as most are predicting. BUT, we have a shot at this division. It's there. this team is young, it's got talent, it's got a good coach.

    oh and on D? I graduated from Shippensburg University near Harrisburg, PA. Why am I saying this? (never heard of it, huh?) Cause it's also where Brent Grimes went to college. I've been following grimes from day one with the falcons and couldn't have been more thrilled to see my no-wheresville state school getting represented in the NFL. (we also have John KUHN, if anyone follows the packers). So imagine my delight when he signed with the dolphins. This man can ball guys. If he's recovered nicely, Grimes is the best CB in the division IMO. So excited for our secondary this year. R. Jones wants the money, let him earn it this year. We drafted a few CBs as well. Hell, i'll take anything over stanford and wilson...

    drop dansby and burnett and get ellerbe and wheeler? Man, we got younger and faster and maybe better. That's just awesome.

    oh and..i guess cameron wakes cool...

    Dion Jordan? Baby JT? Maybe? opposite of Wake? Eh? EHHH?!!! Remember when we traded up and we all collectively **** our pants thinking we'd take the third best LT but instead took the best OLB, and arguably the highest rated defensive player in the draft? WOOT!

    This is going to be fun guys. I don't care about strength of schedule. I think we're going to take a big step forward. The playoffs can be had. Hell, in todays NFL, we can do better than that. A power shift could take place this year. Tannehill could step into the limelight in a way we haven't seen in over a decade. I believe in Philbin. I think he's got a plan and I think we're seeing good things. Oh man..

    ****ing preseason needs to get here right now!
     
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  3. VanDolPhan

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    2005 called. They want their meme back.
     
  4. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    Am I excited yet? No, we are on down time with nothing happening, however ask me again at the end of September (if we are 4-0) and I'll say hell yeah!!

    The proof is in the pudding not on the recipe card.
     
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  5. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    I'm excited as hell also man. I don't have to see anything to be excited about what we could have. I'm excited to see the way this team comes together good or bad I'm stoked to see it.

    The mentality of this team was changing last year and keeps changing this year. I think we could break out this year, but it all rests on how Tannehill plays.
     
  6. Irish Phin Fan

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    Sorry man but it's only early July. Give it another month.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Play angry..This franchise has been disrespected in recent past and have accomplished very little, find the edge..

    That would excite me..
     
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  8. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Insert a GM post about needing 30 seconds of his life back......

    "woot"
     
  9. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Been ready for football for months already.
     
  10. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Always excited for football, even when the Dolphins look bad.
     
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  11. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I can't wait for the preseason to start. I love watching a team develop. I have no doubt this team is taking steps forward. I have no idea how long those steps will be. 7-9 again, but a better team? .500? Playoff wildcard? Division winner? Advancing in the playoffs? SB contender? SB winner? I think those are all on the table. Obviously some are more probable than others. Each person's own level of optimism/pessimism will determine what probabilities they assign.

    IMO the offense has added players that improve the spacing. I believe that when you improve the spacing on offense and have a QB that can distribute the ball into those spaces that the offensive production improves greater than the sum of those added parts. That's what has excited me the most about how this team was built this offseason. I watched part of the first NE game last night and there was that long pass to Hartline that RT just missed. Hartline had beat his guy by a good 5 yards, but RT missed him by about 1/2 yard, maybe less. It was that close. It seemed to me that if they had just hit that pass, the tone of the game would have changed. I could easily see that same pass being a connection to Wallace this year. And after that, those curls to Hartline could have a half-step more space. Those sweeps that Bush got 5 yards on could turn into 10 yards or more by Miller. And Keller and Gibson should have a lot more space in the middle if the S is hesitating for a beat or more while keeping an eye on Wallace. We really didn't have anybody that operated in the middle of the field last year (at least beyond the first 5 yards or so).

    On defense, I see very few holes. I thought we were a top 10 D last year for about half the year (top 5 in spurts) and then faded late. I think we have more depth and more speed this year. I'm hoping we'll have a more consistent pass rush as we have more players that should be good pass rushers. I think our secondary has more guys that can take advantage of TO opportunities (specifically Grimes and a more experienced Jones). I think that more pass rush and a more TO adept players is a combination that provides greater than the sum of the parts returns on D.

    That's why I'm excited and impatient for the season to start. I've been preaching for years that certain things win in the NFL. All of the teams that have won championships in the last 30 years or so were better than their opponents in terms of passing efficiency. Some were great passing offenses, some were great passing defenses. Some were great at getting TOs. Some had great balance, but still passed efficiently and/or stopped the pass. (Our own Dolphins from the early 70s were one of the most efficient pass offenses ever as well as having a great pass D). So I've pleaded for our team to focus on adding players that boosted those areas. It needed to be a multi-faceted, multi-leveled approach. I liked the Marshall signing as a step, but it had to be part of the process. It was treated like a magic bullet. This off-season is the first time that we have added multiple players to address the offensive spacing and the defensive TO production (pass rush and secondary playmakers). It helps that we had a promising QB and pass rusher in place already. I don't know that I would have made all of the same moves, but the focus was right. Obviously, the players have to work out. Nobody can say at this point whether the players will fill those roles as expected/hoped. But the plan was there.

    Philbin stated when he got here that more efficient passing than your opponents wins in this league. I imagine that's what he talked about in his interview and that that was the plan when he was hired. I think the turnaround started when Parcells left and we brought in that Cleveland (I think) OC. We didn't have the horses then and frankly, I'm not sure Sparano was adaptive enough, but it was a step. I think the steps have continued in the right direction since Parcells' departure, some small, some larger, but generally in the right direction. So I'm excited to see how far those steps will take us. To see if the players continue to develop and if the new additions will have the hoped for impact. I can't wait for the season to get here.
     
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  12. invid

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    Snips, if you don't mind me asking, where in PA do you live? You sound like you live less than an hour away from me.
     
  13. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Cautiously optimistic here...
     
  14. Two Tacos

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    They called back, it seems that 1994 called them and now they have to return that joke, they weren't supposed to lend it out after 2008.
     
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  15. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    I'm with ya snips my man..... but temper those expectations just yet. 8-8 is not a failure, but sure seems like it would be percieved as one. We're the youngest team in the league and have a lot of question marks to be answered before the season.

    Overall, we're certainly on the right track now. It's been a long time coming.
     
  16. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    You mean"it wants its meme back".
     
  17. WhiteIbanez

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    It seems like no one gives a dam about the running game.
     
  18. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    It's just not that important in today's game. Adrian Peterson just had one of the greatest running seasons in nfl history and it barely got the vikes into the playoffs. Idk what we have in miller but Presumably he'll be adequate. Other people are much higher on him than I am, I'll admit.
     
  19. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I'll be okay with 8 - 8 if tannehill makes strides and we lose some close ones. Like the colts, cardinals, and jets losses last year. They hurt, but tannehill showed me something big in all of those games. (He made some big mistakes too, but that happens)
     
  20. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I'm incredibly high on Miller, but you're right. It's just not as important in today's game as the passing game is. Now you still need it. IMO you should still run about half of the time. It sets up your passing game, eats up time and lets your D rest (etc.). But reality is that whether you have a decent running game or a great running game, you're not winning a championship w/o an efficient passing game and pass D. The running game just falls into the category of things you just need to be adequate, passable or good enough. You need your passing game and passing D combo to be better than your opponents to win. (I think the last time I checked the numbers no team had won a championship w/o passing more efficiently than their opponents since the mid to late '60s). You need your TO ratio to at least be even with your opponents to win. (there may have been some team that won a championship with a negative TO ratio in the last 50 years, but I'm sure that at least +90% of the time the champion has a positive TO ratio). IMO those areas are the key. Everything else you can get by with as long as they're average.
     
  21. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Me too, I think he can produce like Spiller as well, Thomas is on real thin ice I believe with this team.....I know he isn't a between the tackle guy (Miller) but either is CJ and CJ when needed hits it....as well like CJ, Miller can make big plays....

    If Miller was like Spiller would you take that? I would....
     
  22. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    IMO Miller runs more north and south than CJ. I think that's a better fit for our offense. My hope is that Miller is the guy that rarely has a negative play, averages about 5 YPC and breaks a few longer runs.
     
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  23. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I've been excited since January. Then again, I'm always excited for football. But it's stronger this year with all the excitement around the team led by a promising QB and head coach. I love the role players that were brought in and I really, really believe in Tannehill and Philbin.

    Only 3 and a half weeks until the preseason opener!!!
     
  24. djphinfan

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    I know Rosenhaus is a dolphin homer but he did go on the record saying that miller is the fastest back in he league behind Chris Johnson, hard to argue with a boy who ran a sub 4.4...

    Not a 4.42 not a 4.46. But a 4.37
     
  25. WhiteIbanez

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    There is no questioning Miller's speed but can he hold up durability wise. Can he do all those things asked of him on a full time basis?
    Also can he protect when asked to do so? These are serious concerns that no one seems to be talking about.
    We don't know what we will get in Miller and that really worries me.
    There tends to be a little over confidence in this fanbase when it comes to Miller.
     
  26. Stringer Bell

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    Miller is only going to be a two-down back IMO. Don't think he's going to get many third-down snaps. Should limit the wear and tear on him.
     
  27. djphinfan

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    I have those concerns Nez..just don't know how to put them into context when the man is healthy and in his 2nd year..he should be able to pick up the blitz pickup package, he is an extraordinary athlete.
     
  28. Fin D

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    No way Rosenhaus gets anymore RB clients now that he insulted every RB in league except 2. Wait til the Pats hear this!!!!!
     
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  29. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    "Shutup Richard"

    Leave me alone..lol

    I already told you what I would say if I was pro athlete in that situation, I'm cognizant that I'm not offending the other team, gonna keep that **** in, and fu&$in explode on the field..
     
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  30. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Actually, his improved pass blocking was probably the most talked about aspect of his game from mini camp. That was the primary reason that his snaps were limited last season. And he was already able to do everything else. As far as durability, I don't see any reason there should be any more concern with than with any other player. Other than the one shoulder injury in college he does not have much of an injury history. Obviously he may get hurt, but there's no reason to think his risk is any higher than any other back's.
     
  31. Alex13

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    well i think you have it wrong in this one case and its the only one, AP brought this team into the playoffs with virtually no passing game to speak of, there were games where he would outgain his QB on yardage on a regular basis.
     
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    You mean AP carried his football team during passing droughts. Say it didn't happen.
    Production from the running game is very important.
    It's being played down and elevated in the Miller discussion. We had a true play maker at the RB position last season.
    Lamar Miller has to step up.
     
  33. WhiteIbanez

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    Miller was in shorts bro.
     
  34. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    His issue last year was about knowing who to block not about physically blocking poorly. So what he did in shorts is indicative of whether he improved on knowing who to block.
     
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  35. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Running games carry teams to playoffs frequently, see the Schotty or Wanny teams, but whether they're SB contenders primarily depends on their pass offense/pass d combo.
     
  36. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Knowledge doesn't necessarily wear pants....
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  37. WhiteIbanez

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    The speed of the game changes drastically when the pads come on. Everyone knows that.
    This could lead to confusion on assignments.
    We'll find out more when they start practicing for real.
     
  38. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, but the point is that it is what people are talking about clearly disproving your claim that it's not being talked about. Also, the team seemed confident enough in Miller's development that they didn't even consider another back so they must be as over-confident as the fans.
     
  39. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    So, we can count you as cautiously semi-optimistic then? :lol:
     
  40. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    you know im a fairly pessimistic person by nature. Show me a 21 point lead and youll see me in the corner sweating bullets going through the scenarios of how we'll **** it up. the monday night meltdown against the jets still haunts me to this day. I just...feel good about things. we're doing things right and it all just seems to be falling into place for us longterm.

    I like tannehill. I like philbin. In todays NFL, that's half of what you need anymore.
     
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