Colin Kaepernick rocking Dolphins gear?

Ofcourse. I'm the guy in the 400's level with a plain t-shirt more resembling the visiting team half the time... but after the kickoff you know exactly where i stand, as far as who i want to win the game.

 

Why can't I delete this?

 

Are you talking about your post or your herpes...because that would be two different answers?

 

what's amazing to me is the backlash Colin received for wearing a Dolphins cap. Seriously, Iverson used to wear many different team jerseys it didn't change the fact that he played his *** off every night for the Sixers.

 

thats some nightmare sh&$ right there...geez..

 

That's like saying if you take Lebron James physical traits away from him could he be a polished basketball player?....I would say no he couldn't, he wouldn't be the the player he is without the lucky born measurables he possesses.

 

Colin Kaepernick's skillset dictates to a defense, when you figure how to stop him, then you can talk sh&$, until then, my conviction is just fine.

 

Well... this will make things better.

 

I have 4 teams that I will wear. Dolphins gear, SF Giants gear, Warriors gear, and Sharks gear. I will not wear anything but my teams, something just wouldn't feel right wearing anything else.

 

Dude, put the bottle down and chill. You can stop him regardless of his skillset and athleticism. Plus, that alone wont make him an elite qb. He will be stopped. My point is, what type of QB will he become when he is stopped.

Comparing basketball player to a QB who dictates the ENTIRE play is really a poor comparison. I hope Kapernick has all the health in the world so we can see how he adjusts his game when the NFL defenses start to shut his scheme down.

 

Same here. Feels weird and unnatural.

 

That never stopped you from those horrible things you did in Tijuana.

 

It doesn't count when a donkey and midget is involved.

 

apples and oranges. We are fans for a particular team and likely have been for most of our lives. THese players don't pick where they go when they are drafted. It's a business to them. they have no inherent loyalty to their team.

Now on the flip side, for their own sake, they should be smarter. If you're the QB of the team, you are the face of the franchise. You should think twice before wearing another team's gear purely for the business aspects - i.e. - angering the loyal fan base.

 

Tone you can't say if I "take someone's mobility away" from him he will not be as good...that's why I gave you the Lebron example, if you take his powerful athleticism away he's not gonna be the same player.

Noone has figured him out yet, so at this point I'm right on his projection from college until you can prove that I'm wrong..

 

Its not about me being right, or proving you wrong. I think you are missing the point here. It is cats game. I say, lets see what happens when his option is defended well, and you say, it hasn't happened so I am right. Personally, I don't care about your evaluation that you feel so strongly about, I am just curious to see what is under the surface with kap.

 

Ryan Howard in a Braves jersey:

 

If I were pro baseball player (who obviously grew up loving the game), I especially would not want to be scolded for wearing stuff like Hank Aaron's retired 44 jersey, any past great for that matter, or even the team I grew up a fan of. Ditto for football. I mean, with this day and age of free agency making it a rarity for players to spend their entire careers with one organization, it's not the same as it was in the past where their asses were pretty much attached to whomever drafted them. Today's guys treat this significantly more as a business thanks to both FA desensitizing players and the lucrative contracts they receive, so the similarity of mindset between fan & player isn't what it used to be, and fans need to understand this. Before FA, who you were drafted by became part of your full time identity. If you were a Niner in the 80's you were a Niner through and through, on and off the field. That was part of your persona. As FA morphed into this frenzy we see today, player mentality has transformed as well. On the field, mentality is still roughly the same- you bleed for your team whomever that may be. However, off the field, the player mentality has shifted to embody that of "I'm an NFL football player" rather than "I'm a San Francisco 49er". Albeit a portion of that mentality develops in college where one conference's players seem to place the conference above all else---- the SEC.

 

I agree but many fans are idiots. How many posts have you seen here preaching that a player who takes a job with a rival is a traitor or has committed some unforgivable sin?

 

Good point Raf.

 

Reminds me of the Jeff Fisher argument th was Had when he wore the colts jersey

 

The mindset of the fan and the player may no longer be the same as it once was but the players should realize this and act accordingly. They don't have to bleed their teams colors but they should recognize that wearing another teams logo is not going to sit well with certain fans who are ultimately the ones paying their salaries (albeit indirectly).

I don't have a problem with a player wearing a jersey of a HOFer like Hank Aaaron. He's a legend that is an icon of the sport itself. Similarly if CKap was wearing a Marino jersey I don't think as many people would take exception to it. I also think if he was wearing a cap from the team he grew up rooting for, people would give him more of a pass.

I think this episode reveals a lot about the inner make-up of CKap. The fact that he felt he could wear the cap and not get flack for it shows me he is not very self aware and the fact that he didn't apologize but rather got testy with the 49ers fans shows an arrogance. Those aren't the types of traits you associate with a leader and could ultimately stunt his development as a QB.

 

I'd love to see a fan directly tell a player that.
Sense of entitlement much? And you refer to Kaep being arrogant?

Agree to disagree. Think you're being dramatic, sorry.

Agree to disagree again. It's like you're using "this episode" to supersede everything we already appear know about Kaep as a person, which is all positive from what I've read/heard.

This is the definition of a circular argument.

 

BTW, Manis, these players knowingly subject their bodies & brains to potential long term damage and, despite this knowledge, put more blood, sweat, and tears into their jobs than 99.9% of fans have ever put into anything, but no, you wanna sit back and rationalize why it's ok for a bunch of dramatic, feeble-minded fans to trash a player for what he innocently puts on his head during his rare FREE TIME in a day and age where the overwhelming majority of NFL players no longer spend their careers with the same team, and even worse- to expect him to sit there and take the abuse.

And personally, I find it deplorable that you'd condemn such an otherwise humble, hard working, respectful, upstanding individual over this. You think this episode reveals a lot about the inner make-up of Kaep? No, if anything it ironically reveals a lot about the inner make-up of you my friend.

 

Down goes Frazier, down goes Frazier!!!

 

I respect him for standing by his decision and telling people to get a life. Lol.


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I love the off-season.

 

was just thinking this ^^

thank goodness august 4th is just around the corner.

 

LOL. But I can sympathize with VManis b/c it's tough enough in today's economy without our government stepping in and mandating us to spend a portion of our hard earned income on NFL football, including apparel, plus all the beer we consume as part of the deal.

I just think it's foolishly absurd to suggest that fans have a right to act pissy and berate players in matters such as this b/c of the notion fans indirectly pay players' salaries. That's ridiculous. No one is forcing VManis to spend a dime on football, and he sure as s*** isn't paying players' salaries, indirectly or not. These professional athletes PROVIDE A SERVICE, a temporary escape from our monotonous daily lives that VManis and the rest of us are only too happy fork out money for, and they bust their asses providing it. Nobody's twisting anyone's arm here. I don't see masses of fans flocking to Pee Wee football even though that's an option.

I'm mind-blown that anyone would have a mentality that fans, not the players, are the catalyst in this equation. All of this exists because of the players. It's not like the NFL is the only arena to watch professional football, or any football for that matter, but it doesn't stop millions of fans from pissing and moaning to the Nth degree when there's a potential for lockout. If the top tier of pro football ceased to exist [the NFL], as a whole the greater sense of devastation would be felt by the millions of fans. But VManis professes Kaepernick is the one with awareness issues. Cmon. If it weren't for Kaepernick and the rest of the players who comprise the NFL, half of us would be on Prozac. VManis, be grateful that players of Kaeperick's talent & skill exist in the first place rather than selfishly whining about what they wear during their down time.

 

Less than a month.

Holy crap. It's almost the new season! Can;t wait to see this renovated, upgraded team.

 

Wow I really struck a nerve with you Phinsational.

First off whether you like it or not the NFL is a business and its clients are the fans. Every dollar the NFL makes comes from the fans whether directly through ticket and/or merchandise sales or indirectly through advertising. I'd be more than happy to tell any NFL player that because believe it or not most already know it. Sure the NFL would suffer if the players were to stage a lock out but if the fans decided to boycott it would cease to exist.

You may think its silly for fans to react negatively towards CKap for wearing another teams logo but its not hard to predict that they would. Yet CKap choose to wear that hat to a party and you don't think that says anything about his personality?

 

So ok, fans pay the salary of the player. Do the customers where you work get to tell you what you can wear when you're off the clock?

 

I'm pretty sure I'd hear about it if a client told my boss they saw me wearing a competitors logo in public. But I don't know why I'd even want to do that other than to piss off my boss. And that's my point. I could wear the competitors logo in public but I can also anticipate that it would confuse my clients and piss off by boss so I choose not to do it. I'm assuming Ckap is smart enough to make that same connection but still chose to wear the hat. Do you really think that was a wise decision on his part?

Then to compound matters he tweets about how he will "wear want he wants to wear" rather issuing some bs mea culpa. As an adult his actions have consequences and in this case the consequence was pissing off a bunch of 49ers fans. Was making a fashion statement really worth that?

 

So then you're clearly in favor of being owned by a business to the point where they dictate even the smallest of things, like what you wear. Should people that work at a restaurant never visit another restaurant? If I worked at a car dealer, could I never be seen in another make of car? Both of those things are technically worse than wearing another team's hat.

Let's even go into a practical direction. The NFL is not structured like your average business, so when someone buys one team's apparel all the teams get proceeds. Each team benefits from the other team, because they are contained under the NFL umbrella. Every time a piece of apparel is worn it promotes the ENTIRE league, especially when that person is famous. CKap wearing the Dolphins hat kept the NFL in the news (for a non crime finally) during the slowest time and helped reinvigorate some fan passion. That helps every team, including the 49ers.

 

We'll see if Jim Harbaugh feels that way... he wouldn't talk to a local reporter during his playing days simply because the reporter was wearing a different NFL team's apparel.

 

The word you're looking for is "fashion," not "style."

Fashion says "me too!"

Style says "me first."

 

If there's a team rule, then there's a team rule. Regardless, just because Harbaugh is the coach doesn't mean he's right either.