Most overrated/underrated players in Dolphins history

I'm not sure I can agree on Cam Wake being so undervalued when he's actively considered a premier player in this league.

Was Brock Marion overrated, or underrated? I find that to be a fascinating question.

The dude went to three Pro Bowls for the Miami Dolphins at safety. That's as many Pro Bowls as Dick Anderson, Nick Buoniconti (counting only his years with Miami), Mercury Morris, Keith Sims or Mark Duper. That's as many Pro Bowl appearances as Doug Betters, Kim Bokamper and A.J. Duhe combined.

So in one way, you could say that he was overrated...he was more recognized than his play on the field actually deserved.

But I kind of see it the other way. The dude never gets mentioned, ever...as being among Dolphins greats on defense or on the team period. Patrick Surtain went to just as many Pro Bowls as Brock Marion, and played in the same era for the Dolphins defense. He gets talked about, usually with Sam Madison together as a pair, representing an era of Dolphins defense. Brock Marion gets nothing. Gets into as many Pro Bowls as Dick Anderson, Nick Buoniconti or Mark Duper and he gets no love.

The other guy that's like that is Bryan Cox. He's another three time Pro Bowler for the Miami Dolphins. But for some reason when talking about Dolphin greats at middle linebacker it's John Offerdahl to Zach Thomas. No mention of the in-between where Bryan Cox manned the middle and went to three Pro Bowls.

 

Underrated: Greg Camarillo

 

Underrated is Zach, because he deserves to go HoF and likely won't.

 

T-Buck

 

Actually I think Rob Konrad was overated.So much ink for so little performance.

Most of the underated have been talked about ad infinitum .Players like Zach Thomas,Manny Fernandez ,Bob Kuchenberg.They may be underappreciated but they are still well known and they are heroes in Dolphin fans minds.

So I am going to pick someone most of you probably have never heard of .

Mike Kolen LB better known as Captain Crunch because of his hard hitting style.You could hear his hits up in the bleachers.He started as a LB in that perfect season in 1972 .He was a 12th round pick in 1970 and he had to struggle to make the team .He even had to play as a scrub during the first strike shortened season .
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But eventually he won the coaches and teammates and fans hearts and respect as he played 8 seasons with the Dolphins during the glory years.To me he reminds me of another big hitter although he was not as talented, John Offerdahl.

 

Mike Kolen! Captain Crunch!! War Eagle, baby!!!

Still wishing he knocked that ball away from Clarence Davis in the end zone. Had his hand right on it. Ugh!

 

And thats why he is not well known .The famous Sea of Hands game when he could have prevented a miracle game winning TD.
Still he was in position to do so .He was a LB and a DB should have been in position to knock that ball down...not a LB .

 

John Denney. 8 years of money snaps, 2 Pro Bowls and the average fan has zero clue he is on the team.

 

Under: Tony Nathan
Over: Shula the GM

Loved Shula the coach, toward the end though...sheesh..

 

Underrated: Tim Bowens

 

Heck, add David Bowens along with him.

 

To be fair, for a long snapper, that's a good thing.

 

I guess he was a pretty good defensive player for the Spurs

 

*facepalm*

David... I mean David Bowens. ...My bad.

 

I'd have to say my favorite Dolphin of all time is highly underrated outside Phins circles, and even inside some, Jim "Crash" Jensen. I have a very hard time thinking of a player that was more entertaining, uber talented or not, than Crash. WR, QB, RB, C, whatever...he was game.

 

Underrated:
Jon Giesler OT. Rarely gets credit for how good he was and how he toughed it out through a lot of pain at the end of his career.
Tim Bowens Guy was a rock in the middle.

Overrated:
Tony Nathan Slow plodding RB that was solid but not at all as dynamic as some Phin fans like to make him out to be.
Jay Fiedler: Guy that never should have been a starting QB in the NFL. Took advantage of an idiot named Wanny's talent assessment and his ego that would not let him move on once it was obvious this was a poor choice. Rode the coattails of a championship caliber defense to a winning career record as a starter.

 

We've sucked so bad for so long, who cares..

 

Underated: Chad Pennington, and maybe Durriel Harris

 

You're right. Will Allen was overrated.

 

Overrated: Dan Marino

Underrated: Cam Cameron


You hated me until the second one. Then you simply lost respect. :P

 

Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform?

 

underrated-Pat Cobb

 

Underrated: Louis Oliver

 

Lol...Lou's Oliver...damn were we horrible at drafting since 1983

 

Right off the top of your head, name me five great first round picks since Marino..cause I sure as hell can't,

 

Underrated: Tim Bownes, Jay Fiedler
Overrated: I think they are going to put Ricky Williams on that list (not that I agree), Ronnie Brown

 

Seriously


Underrated:

Keith Jackson
Bryan Cox
Tim Ruddy
Tim Bowens
Trace Armstrong
Kevin Carter
Vonnie Holliday
OJ McDuffie
Shawn Wooten (JJ's pronunciation)
Sammy Morris
Jeff Zgonina
Andre Goodman
Will Allen
David Martin

Overrated:
Calvin Jackson
George Teague
Louis Oliver
Chris Chambers
Rex Hadnot
Donnie Spragan
Jesse Chatman
Jason Allen
Phillip Merling
Travis Daniels
Karlos Dansby

 

Yatil Green, Jamar Fletcher, Eddie Moore, Ted Ginn Jr., Jason Allen... and the years w/ no pick.

 

Richmond Webb, Troy Vincent, Jake Long, Mike Pouncey, and hopefully Ryan Tannehill.

 

psssst...wrong Pouncey.

 

Manny Fernandez ! Nfl's unsung player of the year 1973. Still not in the HOF. The runningback not originally and formerly known as Karim Abdul Jabbar was overrated even though we never rated him that high.

 

Underrated - Jim Jensen!

 

Why would they put Ricky on there?

 

Jmo, Jake doesn't belong in the great class..not with a couple of injury plagued years on a rookie contract who then bolted for another team after being the first overall..I consider that a failure for the franchise.

 

2nd round pick.

 

Here's NFL.com's list of their top 5 over/underrated:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...dolphins-alltime-underrated-overrated-players

I never really thought of Parcells as overrated, as nobody in Miami rated him at all for his time here! However, I suppose their list is from the point of view of all the NFL, so he gets my vote. I wouldn't have put Cox in the overrated list, we were very lucky in having Offerdahl, then Cox, then Thomas, and he maybe is overrated when compared to the other two, but he was still a very good inside linebacker. If anybody, I would have put Dansby on the list ahead of Cox.

 

Before I look at the link, I would say Ronnie Brown was overrated and Nat Moore was underrated.