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**The Official 2012-13 NBA Thread**

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Muck, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    How do you know half of those players are better? None are in the awkward position of Chalmers who is the 4th offensive option on his starting team and doesn't get to run the offense every play. When he has had the ability to run the offense and create his own shots he has generally flourished. Plays all phases of the game well and does his job. Its not his fault he plays with James-Wade-Bosh

    For what it's worth though I think Cole eventually surpasses Mario if he keeps working hard.
     
  2. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    the tell tale win shares says that RIO actually destroyed Hill in 5 of the 7 games.

    and hell no...to Jennings (chuck and duck and nothing else), Felton (no defense, erratic shooter) and Vazquez (I actually like him, he just did it for 1 year though)
     
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  3. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I think if Cole keeps emerging like he has been, Chalmers may be expendible.
     
  4. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Mike Miller is one of my faves. Doesnt play for 82 games, nor the playoffs.....but he absolutley, comes to **** in the finals!!!
     
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  5. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    You know Miller is frustrating. All season long you think maybe its time for him to hang it up. The the Finals come around and he starts wrecking people's **** and you remember why they have him all that rest. Nice to have a team that can stash a guy in the finals time capsule for the entire year.
     
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  6. GreenMonster

    GreenMonster New Member

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    Section have you been betting many props this year. Been doing well, when I can find a decent price.
     
  7. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Skip Bayless: Wah Wah Wah Spurs Lost Heat didnt win.
     
  8. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    You lost braincells, watching his drivel.
     
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  9. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think they make an excellent rotation. Miami has a team option to exend Chalmers another season. And Cole is still on his rookie contract. No need to get rid of either.
     
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  10. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Anyone know what the series line had fallen to after the Game 1 loss?

    Do I want to know?

    Because I definitely had the urge to double down. But didn't.
     
  11. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I see that Game 3 is Spurs -2.5. That's interesting. Barry Jackson brought up that in the 2-3-2 format the home team in Game 3 after starting off 1-1 on the road is only 3-9.
     
  12. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Spurs even money

    Heat +120
     
  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I was right. I didn't want to know. Sigh.
     
  14. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hill hit big shot after big shot. Win shares be damned, boxscores say otherwise. You barely knew Chalmers was even out there half the time.

    Felton actually played good defense much of the year. His numbers vs faster PG's dragged him down, guys like Lawson and Curry really hurt his metrics. The rest of the time he was solid. Vasquez was so much better it was a joke. 1 year or not, Im talking about players better then Chalmers right now.

    And Chalmers offense disappears for games at a time and youre going to criticize Jennings for being chuck and duck?

    Actually Mike Conley was in that position until the Rudy Gay deal. Kyle Lowry was in that position. Steve Nash has been in that position. Jrue Holiday was in that position at one time. Anyone who has been in that position elevated themselves. Chalmers hasnt done so to their level yet. Not saying he wont but it hasnt happened consistently.
     
  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Doubly interesting: in series tied 1-1, the winner of Game 3 wins the series over 90% of the time.
     
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  16. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Sounds like an arbitrage opportunity depending on what happens with the series line. I'm not seeing the series line on Bovada but if it goes back closer to what it was prior to Game 1, and yet the Game 3 line remains Spurs -2.5, seems like opportunities to be had.
     
  17. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I just checked. The series line is now Heat -175/Spurs +155, and the Game 3 line is Spurs -2.5. You could bet Heat +2.5 (-115) and also take the Spurs +175 for the series. Say you bet 115 to win 100 on the Heat +2.5, and bet 74 to win 115 on Spurs Series. The expected value of that series of bets would be about +9.81 if you assumed a 45% chance Heat win and cover, 5% chance they cover but don't win, and 90% chance that whoever wins Game 3 wins the series.
     
  18. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I have hated the props this year. the one I hit hard was Stephen Curry ovr. 22.9ppg vs. Denver for the series, and I then parlayed it into ovr. 21.5 vs. the Spurs.

    I usually bet a BUNCH more...not this year.
     
  19. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    That was one of the dirtiest blocks I have ever seen.....
     
  20. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Cedric Diggory = LeBpwned
     
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  21. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I got Miami +120 and San Antonio +150. Best way to win as a gambler is to bet both sides :yes:
     
  22. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    That's more like hitting the fast forward button to breaking even... :lol:
     
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  23. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I'm running with the Game 3 angle. I think there's solid backing to the idea of Miami winning this series, as evidenced by the series line going back to -175. Miami winning the series would mean a strongly elevated chance they take Game 3. There's no moneyline on Game 3 at the moment so I guess I would take the points at +2.5.
     
  24. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Thats intresting, if the Heat wanted a D-Team they could have bought the Knicks.
     
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  25. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    If all you do is arbitrage and middling, you can grind out a steady rate of return. Its really boring, but still.
     
  26. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  27. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    I always did like that team's name.
     
  28. Dolphin1184

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  29. Not So Fast

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  30. Serpico Jones

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    Charles Barkley picked the Spurs in 4 before the last game on the Dan Patrick show. The NBA media is an embarrassment.
     
  31. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Barkley has picked against the Heat in every playoff series they've appeared in since LeBron James and Chris Bosh signed.
     
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  32. schmolioot

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    Dan Crawford is the crew chief tonight. Good sign for Heat.
     
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  33. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    Lol Gandalf giving the "you shall not pass!" Makes this.
     
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  34. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    Literally? Barkley defines the word "hater". Screw him and his unprofessional self.
     
  35. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I've seen Barkley pick the Heat plenty of times. But he usually steers toward the other side of the argument. For example most people picked the Heat to easily beat the Bucks but I think Barkley thought it will go to 6 games. I can't remember how many games he thought the Bulls series would go to but I believe he did pick the Heat.

    He's never really been a buyer that the Heat have a full team and not just Lebron James and Dwyane Wade. He's been absolutely effusive in his praise of Lebron James as the best player in the world, the past two years.
     
  36. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    nah..he's a hater.

    he has picked against the Heat in these series:

    2011 Celtics
    2011 Bulls
    2011 Mavs
    2012 Pacers
    2012 Celtics
    2012 Thunder
    2013 Pacers
    2013 Spurs

    You can't pick against a team that is consistently favored that much and not be a hater. For him to be effusive and stating the obvious that Lebron is the best player in the world is not that impressive. I am impressed that water is wet.
     
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  37. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    In Chuck's defense, the Heat only win when the other team gets sloppy and turns the ball over more than four times. Just because they consistently dominate doesn't make them the better team.

    Sent from my phone using Fapatalk 2
     
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  38. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Let's go Heat! game 3, stay focused
     
  39. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lets go Spurs! Do it for the haters!
     
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  40. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    I hope the Destroyer of Planets version of Lebron James was awoken with the block of Tiago Splitter. This would be a really nice win.
     

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