https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/05/14/pass-rusher-profile-cameron-wake/ Nothing really to say..Baddest defensive player I've ever see wear a dolphin uniform.. 46 inch vert.Defies gravity..explosive..and he's all ours.
everyone knows Wake is a monster...unfortunately PFF has Jared Odrick ranked as one of the worst DE's
Pretty nice though knowing with have one of the premiere defensive players in the league..at a bargain price.. He could even become more dangerous with Dion on the other end..two football players at their core, who happen to be supreme athletes.
The day it was reported that all these NFL teams were trying to sign him away from the CFL the first thing i remembered was that this was the guy who had a 45 inch vert at the combine
yea hopefully Wake takes him under his wing and motivates him to get bigger and stronger and instills a strong work ethic in him
He doesn't need Wake for any of those things. His work ethic is already through the roof and he planned on getting bigger and stronger before he was drafted. He needs Wake to teach him to expand his pass rush moves.
Have to say Odrick has not really developed as well as he should have at this point in his career, fmr #1 pick, he's started a lot of games for us and yet, once again, "..Odie was not effective..." Would like to see Vernon have a shot at that DE slot.
Anyone else just imagining Wake and Dion both flying off the edges and smashing the qb so hard like a sandwich that he explodes into a pile of guts and shoulder pads?!
130 INCHES 10'10'' 4.65 40 TIME 1.63 10 yard time 2.67 20 yard time 20 bench presses 4.13 20 yard shuttle 7.12 3 cone drill
I'm so hoping with ya on that, talk about a skillset to mold and nurture..it doesn't get any better..
I'm not 100 percent sure about this, but he doesn't seem to be doing the necessary things from a physical standpoint to improve his quickness, I'd like to see him trim his body fat, he's got some natural strength so the loss of some body fat shouldn't affect his ability to set the edge, however it would absolutely affect his quickness for the better. Def ends in today's game do not need to be carrying weight they don't need, it's becoming a quick twitch position.
Wake's a bad mofo, but there have been some pretty good Fins....How about JT or ZT or Baumhower or Bob Matheson...heck they named a defense after that dude...Buoniconti...and there have been some pretty decent Safeties as well....The difference is that the Kracken hasn't done it for the length of time those guys have...
A DE who can't rush the passer is as worthless as a boner on the pope. If you believe in Odrick as a great player then sorry about your luck. His development is at it's ceiling. The guys has strong arms but no talent.
He was a DT in college, and has played 3-4 DE and 4-3 DE for most of his career, with spot duty at DT on passing downs, and he's played fairly well in all 3 spots. Needs to work on his dance moves though.
I don't think Jared Odrick's PFF rating is really all that appropriate a reflection of his performance. The way PFF does grades for players mean Odrick's performance and/or production is rated vs. the average score of a 4-3 DE in 2008. A 4-3 DE is a very broad, not entirely technical definition that has Odrick graded against 250lb. edge rushers when he's playing the position more like a 3-4 DE. I understand why they would do that, but I think it gives the wrong perception of Odrick. If you compare Odrick's "production"(sacks, hits, and hurries) and rush attempts to 3-4 DEs, he does not compare unfavorably. That doesn't include some of the other aspects of the grade, but that isn't nearly as easy to quantify.
Odrick's not a DE, he's a DT playing at DE b/c that's what's best for his team. With Dion Jordan taking snaps at DE this year it'll allow him more snaps at DT to spell Starks, perhaps more snaps spelling Wake at LDE as well. His versatility alone is a valuable asset to the defense. I really think you should rethink your stance on this one.
And sparano never used him on field goal block team when he was a rook..nor did he give wake nearly enough reps when he was dominating..I should of figured it out then.
he's done it for four years in absolutely dominating fashion..and I know what he is as an athlete, and how trains for his craft, I'll stick with my statement.
Well, then he's being put in a tough spot relative to his body type..if he gains weight or stays status quo he's not going to improve on the outside?
Odrick was a bad 1st round pick...period. Regardless of whether you consider him a "bust" or not, if Miami could re-do that draft, they wouldn't even consider using a 1st on him again, and neither would any other team. He'd probably go in the 4th lol. Then again, at pick 28 it's not like we passed on some stud...the next real good pick was Gronkowski 14 picks later. 09 was one of several losing seasons this team suffered, the bright side being we got to pick in the top half of the 1st round. Moral of the story? Don't trade down from 12 all the way to 28 just to pick up a 2nd, you take yourself out of the running for several excellent prospects. In this case, quantity over quality hurt us.
TBH, what did Odrick offer the D that Kendall Langford did not? I want to see him succeed, last yr he should have kicked some butt and just was not there most games, could be scheme, he was tasked at staying at home, but in whatever pass rush attempts he did have he did do much with them. He talking about losing weight this offseason, tbh when I hear a player say that at this point in their career I don't think it will help his game very much. He should be ascending at this point, he's not a poor player, he's just not likely to do much more then he has shown us already.
Thats a fair comparison, I didnt want Langford, but I'd like to see what Odrick can do from the inside more.
I thought Langford was underrated in his time here, replacing him with Odie and not getting much better production is a net minus in terms of resources. Traded back and added Odrick and Misi, who are more bit players that you don't have to trade away from talent to find. Moving him to DT may help, but at this point consider he had Nolan as his DC and he could not get more out of him, w/Kacy Rodgers as his DL coach considered one of the best in the NFL. Coyle was a newb DC and still Odie did about what Odie usually does, so what 2 DefCord's have been here and he is producing the same as usual and moving him to DT has been talked about since he got here and it rarely happens That is a bit of a message about what the Staff thinks of his game Deej. And I bought an autographed jersey of his when he was drafted so I liked him coming out..he's just not developed into what I'd hoped he would develop into.
One thing about Odrick that nobody is mentioning is that he missed his whole rookie season with the broken leg. So he is really coming into his third year. I would give him this year before writing him off as having reached his peak. It's not uncommon for players to "get it" during their third season.
Change my stance on what? I already said it in this thread that Odrick is depth, a backup DL. As a 1st round pick and potential he is a bust. We are seeing all we are going to see in his development. Nothing special.
Even during his rookie season he'd have learned the process, if anything he should be ahead of the curve by now, instead of the avg wheels that he really is. 2000 total snaps by now if not more?
