2013 Draft Thread Day 2

didn't we net more by trading back and then trading up?

 

That wasn't directed at you all. It was too Ronnie about Adam.

 

how do you know we didn't get one of the guys we wanted? Davis was one we were smitten with IIRC, so did we really miss out on the pick? There's still the aspect involved of trying to play the draft. With your approach you might as well say we should've drafted him in the 1st round.

 

Before we traded back into the 3rd round when we still had 3 4th round picks. I would of drafted barkley why not, now not so much. I hope we add a safety still some good ones on the board.

 

Maybe, but that's not the point. You could tell he was disappointed how that last sequence turned out. I think he misjudged the situation a bit. He figured a lot of his players were still there, and he could get a few early picks in the 4th and have a shot to secure a couple of them. Then things did not go as he planned, and he was forced to go back into the 3rd to secure one of those players.

It wasn't a disaster by any means, and Will Davis looks like a nice pick, if albeit raw, but i think he was disappointed a bit.

 

If he was our target then we got him. but it costs us more. Thats the "cute part" that Padre and I agree on.

 

yeah, no it's not. Thank our coaches at the Senior Bowl who fell in love with Jerry for that one.

 

Not planning to have a contingency plan at the most important position in all of sports is stupid. If RT develops into a legit QB then Barkley rides the bench for the duration of his contract and moves on. No harm done. If RT gets hurt, doesn't develop or Barkley turns out to be the better player then so be it.

Why do so many Dolphin fans think RT should be coddled like an infant? Should Miami bench RT if they are making a late playoff run and during the playoffs so it doesn't do harm to his confidence if he fails too?

If adding a QB in the 4th round destroys RT's confidence and reacts like the FO is preparing for him to fail then better to find out he is Ryan Leaf-like now than giving him the keys to the franchise for a couple of more years. You really think RT is going to be react like a low-esteemed child if Miami spends a 4th round pick on a QB after spending the #8 pick in the draft on him last year? Whoa...

He is 25 years old, maybe fans should accept RT deserves the chance to prove he doesn't need the FO/coaching staff to treat him like he needs diapers and a pacifier to someday succeed.

 

youre ignoring Moore's entire presence. We have, arguably, one of the best backup qbs in the league, whom we just resigned THIS OFFSEASON. Theres no place for barkley.

 

But with Moore as our back up, for atleast two more seasons, we don't need to add a back up QB. We have it, and a good one at that. We know what we have with Moore. We don't need Barkley as a 3rd QB

 

trying to make calculated decisions is a part of every draft. Padre's notion of trying to get too cute is complete nonsense. Ireland's shown no tendency for doing that since he's been in charge that is any different than any other GM. If anything he's shown to be more assertive in going after the players he wants than passively trading back. This is nothing like what NE does every year.

 

This. No reason to pay a pretty decent contract to Barkley to have him back up Moore. Moore is a great back up and like you said, arguably the best back up in the league. Redskins didn't have that when they drafted Cousins.

 

so the hell what? Do you watch how many trades are made by the ENTIRE damn NFL? I get it, you have an agenda and you stick to it. Kudos for the determination.

 

Its a tough point to prove either way. So lets get drunk and fight it out?

I know thats old school but I got that going for me.

 

Didn't we still gain a 4th even though we moved back up?

 

Im so hoping we pick him in the 4th let him develop and turn him into picks two years from now.

 

Well for what it's worth, IMO Ireland is a bit upset at how the night ended. He felt comfortable that the guys on his board that he wanted would be there in the 4th tomorrow, and traded back from 82 to secure a couple more. He got a little panicked when he saw a bunch being taken at the end of the 3rd.

I think he was happy with how his draft has gone so far, and that last part sort of clouded his sunny day a bit.

It wasn't a disaster, and the move still turned out decent, but i felt he looked slightly disappointed.

 

deal!! Plus it's not like we're talking about a 1st rounder here.

 

They have Finsider interview podcasts on the official site with each of the picks today. Will Davis sounds 13 years old. Its hilarious. He kinda sounds like Urkel.

 

wait, how 'bout we fish it out instead, ole fart?

 

Matlock marathon, first one to snore, loses.

 

Also, i think Ireland looks more comfortable than ever taking shots at riskier and more raw players now, because he has confidence in his coaching staffs's ability to develop these players. Today he drafted perhaps 4 talented but raw players, and i feel he would not have done so 2 years ago.

 

Nope, you already agreed. See, more old school.

 

We hit CB hard in day #2, we needed to upgrade the postion.

 

I dont ever want to see RJ stanford and Jimmy Wilson again, so im pretty pumped about this.

And if Grimes recovers, he's arguably the best CB in our division.

 

I'm not even going to talk much about Ireland here cause being critical of him pretty much got me banned on the other site by his playmate but anyways....

Ireland always tries to outsmart everyone when it comes to the draft, always does some ridiculous trades and reaches. I feel he has too much power in the draft. Last year was his rare good draft, so 1 out of 6 drafts have been good.

They showed a headline bar on NFLN today saying we only have ONE player on our roster that we have drafted and is a pro bowler.

That says a lot, though I think last year's draft and of course Reshad Jones will add onto that list eventually, and this year's draft may turn out to be a very good one too but so far I only like Dion and Jarvis. Blame it on Parcells if you want about that NFLN stat, to me it's a collective blame because Ireland was still the GM, he wasn't the receptionist in Davie.

 

Maybe you were banned because your stance is based on silliness.

 

If you want to blame everything at Parcells go ahead.

I've seen this guy pass on all pro players left and right too many times for guys like Vontae, Sean Smith, Koa Misi, Daniel Thomas, Phillip Merling, Jake Long and that's just off the top of my head. There's more to be named, Ireland's drafts are mediocre at best. He tries too hard to outsmart everyone and instead ****s over himself.

 

Well, our secondary is looking pretty nasty (in a good way)

 

We added so much speed to our defense in FA & the draft, we are going to be flying to the football.

 

That was only the first three years.

 

Only Jake's 1st 3 years? How does that change him from being an all-pro player?

Surely all these players Ireland is passing on aren't All-Pro's every year. At the very least he isn't the only one passing on them. Regardless of that, I don't care if you criticize him by saying his drafting is mediocre, but lumping Jake Long in with those other names is silly.

 

Name a GM that hasn't passed on an all pro player to pick a non all pro player many times. I'd wait, but you cannot since there isn't one.