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2013 Draft Thread Day 2

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    That tricky Ireland...I like what he has done this draft. Add a decent RB, DT to develop, sign Winston and I would say he did a decent job this off season. Wouldn't mind drafting Barkley if he is on the board, no guarantee's Tannehill will develop to be legit. Barkley may not have the physical skills of RT, but he may have intangibles RT hasn't displayed yet.
     
  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Both are CBs IMO.
     
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  3. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Is the needle cutting through that side of the record yet?
     
  4. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    We pick 7th and 9th in the 4th rd.

    We pick 104, 106, 164, 166, and 250.

    166 and 250 can't be traded.
     
  5. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Well kids Imma go have a beer or two.
     
  6. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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  7. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    or ten.
     
  8. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Nope, what one is misunderstanding is Ireland's curious habit of moving away from higher rated talent, via trade backs, then having a "eureka!" moment and going back to where he just traded away from to "mine a hidden gem" and it rarely works out well.

    Someday, Ireland will grasp that when others devalue a player in the draft, he does not have some psychic ability to prove them all wrong.

    IE, to be blunt, we could have had Bailey, we landed Davis, if one thinks about it:

    Jordan/Taylor/Thomas/Davis

    Hmm, have heard those names before...:lol:
     
  9. Rouk

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  10. Ronnie Bass

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    One of the worst things you could to do to a young QB is put another young QB with a marquee name behind him on the depth chart. It would bring too much attention man.
     
  11. Ophinerated

    Ophinerated Preposterous!

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    Wow, you're like ten beers late! :ffic: :tongue2:
     
  12. Onehondo

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  13. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    Seriously? If RT can't handle the pressure of a 4th round QB being added to the roster then he doesn't belong.

    Didn't seem to devastate RG3 when the Redskins drafted Cousins in the 3rd round his rookie year.

    Didn't devastate Wilson when Seattle signed Flynn to a starter's contract in the off season either.
     
  14. fsualumizzy

    fsualumizzy Supreme Overlord

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    I say we need to draft a WR with one our two picks in the 4th I would get Swope. With our other pick in the 4th I would select a RB. I would pick either Ellington or Lattimore. (Lattimore has a lot of upside if he can get past his injury.) In the 5th early pick I would select maybe another DT or RT. With my late 5th I would select a QB just incase Tannehill doesn't pan out. Probably Barkley or Nassib. With our 7th I would pick up another WR. We need to also go sign Winston.
     
  15. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    If Barkley is there in the fifth or sixth round sure, go for it.
     
  16. Ronnie Bass

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    Ireland said that once Logan Ryan (83rd) and Kayvon Webster (90th) came off the board, he felt it necessary to trade back into 3rd for a CB


    Okay, this does make sense, seeing a trend emerging Ireland didn't want to get shootout from the CB market.
     
  17. Jt0323

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    You don't need to waste 4th a pick on Barkley when a qb is the last thing you need. Tannehill and Moore are fine. Planning for Tannehill to fail is stupid. We have other needs in a deep draft like this.


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  18. padre31

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    Every freakin' time

    INOW folks, Ireland did not see that run a Cb coming, caught w/o resources he had to pay to get back into the dance.

    This is what I mean by "cute".

    This is his weakness imo.
     
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  19. Ronnie Bass

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    Different scenarios all of them, plus Wilson and RG3 hadn't even played a game and plus Flynn was signed before they drafted Wilson.

    Bottomline we got a good thing going with Tannehill, why play with his head now when he's making progress? Makes no sense to me.
     
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  20. fsualumizzy

    fsualumizzy Supreme Overlord

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    No but you must plan for the future of the future!
     
  21. padre31

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    Yeah, ask the Redskins how that worked out with RG3 and Cousins last year.
     
  22. Fin D

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    Its an insignificant weakness though, because he only does it late. He actually has a sterling record of getting solid if unspectacular guys which is considered good for the bottom of the 3rd thru 5th.
     
  23. Stitches

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    So staying at 82 and taking a Cb wouldn't have been cute?

    It's a weakness because you wouldn't have done it the same way. That doesn't mean it's a weakness, it just means he thinks differently. It isn't like he lost out by trading down and then back up.
     
  24. unluckyluciano

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    right. his lack of prophecy needs work.
     
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  25. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Stop feeding that one. His Tannehill hate grows with each bite. Its almost a caricature at this point.
     
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  26. texanphinatic

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    He needs to hope passing on Bailey (and potentially Swope) doesn't turn into another Jerry over Graham moment. Not of his picking from third on here so far, will see what day 3 brings.
     
  27. Jt0323

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    yeah but the future is not Sanchez 2.0
     
  28. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    So you're saying we should look for Marques Wilson, Jasper Collins, Jason Weaver, Ray Ray Armstrong, Vince Williams, Landry Jones, Conner Vernon, Malliciah Goodman, Travis Long, Chase Thomas, Phillip Thomas, Shamarko Thomas, and Devin Taylor :)
     
  29. Ronnie Bass

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    Like I said they both hadn't even played a game, no what progress had RG3 really made? Besides while Cousins was a well known college QB his stature never raised to the level of Barkley, not even close. What kind of message you sending the kid when you stick Barkley on his *** from the get go of his sophomore year?
     
  30. ToddPhin

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    whut?
     
  31. padre31

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    FinD I would not mind IF he took the same approach that he did to Jordan, ie, top flight physical talent, have to have it, if there were none left on his board for that rd that fit that bill then trade back.

    However, clearly there was talent on his board that fit that bill, he ran away from it, and had to pay to make up for his misread of the situation.

    Just take your guy, don't get cute.
     
  32. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Oh believe me, passing on Bailey was a mistake. I was one of THE biggest Bailey lovers on this board...I....I....sigh....I even named my right testicle Stedman. But that's not really what padre was talking about.
     
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  33. ToddPhin

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    stop reaching. You don't know what the hell he was thinking. He could've wanted Will Davis all along whom we were high on.
     
  34. padre31

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    :lol:

    Total misread, I was speaking generally, that situation can work out, not aimed at THill at all.

    TBH, I like Pat Devlin and don't see the need for Barkley.
     
  35. Sumlit

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    Well Ireland just admitted he misread the situation in the 3rd round. He said there were still guys on his board available at 82, so he traded down. Then he saw a bunch get picked quickly, and decided to trade back up to secure one.

    This time his conservative side got the better of him. Would have been better to take his guy at 82 instead of trying to be cute and beat the draft. I think he did not close the day as strong as he would have liked.
     
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  36. ToddPhin

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    No, you clearly don't friggin know that for sure as if you know precisely what our board looked like.
     
  37. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Ireland just seems good for at least one of these...wtf was he doing there...picks. Will Davis does sound like a very very good pick for us....
     
  38. bigbry

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    Then take him when you had the chance.
     
  39. Fin D

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    If i was a GM, I'd probably never trade back, because I want the players I want and i would get them first chance I get. I agree with you he gets cute, but my point is that he only really does it frequently in the bottom fo the 3rd thru the 5th, which is where you generally find most of your worker bees. Ireland, though, is pretty adept at finding worker bees anyway so it sort of cancels it out. I'd rather he have more picks at that level because it increases the odds of finding a gem (Hartline or Jones), instead of yet another worker bee.
     
  40. padre31

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    Indeed, for me, I'd just had taken Bailey or Davis and not risked losing them.

    Low return, high risk, and imo, Fisher is stalking Ireland's approach.
     

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