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Why don't we just sign Bryant McKinnie to a 1 year deal?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by LBsFinest, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    We can probably get him for less than half of what Albert wants and we keep our picks. Martin stays on the right side for another year to develop. When McKinnie's deal is up next year we'll probably need to find another tackle again but the key difference will be that we'll have a much better idea of what Jon Martin really is and if he can play at this level after he sinks or swims in 2013. We can even take a OT in the mid rounds this year and groom him to compete for one of the tackle spots in 2014.

    McKinnie is plan C or D but I think this is the best route. Gambling on Martin at LT is something I'm not comfortable with, not yet at least, he could improve, he could not. he could improve but not enough to help stabilize the line, and I'm definitely not the type to automatically assume any Ireland draft pick will develop the way we want them to lol. So given the team's heavy interest in coughing up not only a high pick but also a boatload of money for Albert, I think they feel the same way, and I can understand why the team would prefer an established veteran on that side, so would I, and even though BA will be more expensive, I'd still give up a 2nd for him rather than trade away our 1st, 2nd and maybe even another pick for one of the top 3 rookie OT's, but I don't think these have to be the only two options we consider, because McKinnie can still play.
     
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  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Because he's old, and we're trying to build a team not band aid one.

    In fact, this panicking and signing anyone chicken crap is why this team hasn't been to the big game in decades.
     
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  3. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Team has shown little interest in players his age. Not to mention thats a huge risk relying on someone his age. He also won't be very cheap.
     
  4. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    We have more than enough youth on this team, especially after we bring in 8-10 rookies.
     
  5. Daben

    Daben Well-Known Member

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    That sort of move may still happen, but its usually something that occurs after mini camps if the team doesnt see enough from the players already on the roster. Of course McKinnie may not be available at that point, but my guess is at his age/condition he may well appreciate taking the early part of summer off and look for a job come training camp time, and that would be the time we would look to make such a signing.
     
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  6. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    At bare minimum, it would happen after the draft...then and only then will we know positions of need.
     
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  7. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You can't win a superbowl with Bryant McKinnie in todays game.

    The game has changed. You need an anchor Prime USDA Franchise Left Tackle. He's a castoff two, three years in a row now.
     
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  8. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    That's funny. Who played LT for the Ravens in the Super Bowl?
     
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  9. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Something is funny alright.
     
  10. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    Lol.
     
  11. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    Lol sorry man nothing personal, but you really just put your foot in your mouth.
     
  12. Perfectville_USA

    Perfectville_USA Mr Perfect

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    I hope we sign Winston to play RT after the draft, we are not a Super Bowl contender just yet. So I see what Martin can do there first, RB's and TE will then have to help with more chip blocks.
     
  13. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    You'll have to explain.

    We won't even know if we need a Tackle until after the draft...unless you know something I don't
     
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  14. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    He started at LT for the Ravens for every game in the playoffs and the Superbowl this year and they kind of won.
     
  15. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    Whoops sorry I quoted the wrong person.
     
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  16. LBsFinest

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    jdang was clearly being sarcastic people
     
  17. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    You could pretty much replace tackle with any position other than QB and make it applicable.
     
  18. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I played LT for the ravens and won.
     
  19. Drowning

    Drowning ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH

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    Agreed.

    My main concern is not our OL's age though, it's Tanne's. What is the worst case scenario next year? If you ask me- sophomore slump for Tanne. We can't have a line, dinosaur or not, that will up the odds on Tanne's lack of progression. While I hate it an option of this sort, if it's the better option to keep Tanne safe and growing, I'll consider it as taking it but with the vasoline.
     
  20. Disgustipate

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    Because we want a good football player who fits the scheme. Being able to trust him to play more than a year is nice too.
     
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  21. GMJohnson

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    Because he'd be at King of Diamonds every other day.
     
  22. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    No Wonder Juan Huron is outa the league.....Sheeesh.
     
  23. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    They should actually sign three OT's.

    They could sign Winston right now to a three year 10 mil contract.

    They could sign McKinnie to a two year 7 mil incentive laden contract.

    They could sign Winston Justice for near league minimum. Justice led the league in PBE the first six weeks of last year before he was injured.

    They could draft Terron Armstead and Reid Fragel and give them a year or two to develop.

    The cap room is there, the only reason the Dolphins have to have a crappy OL this year is that Ireland is stubborn and stupid.

    GM's need to take what is given them just like a smart offense takes what the defense is giving.
     
  24. Stringer Bell

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    "Hey boss, regardless of what happens, I'm going to burn $5M of your money in the process of finding an average tackle"

    Somehow I don't think that would fly with any owner other than Dan Snyder.
     
  25. jdang307

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    Didn't think this one would be that hard to spot.
     
  26. DHPVW

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    For the right price I would say it's a low risk/high reward signing. Gives us depth and flexibility on the line. I have wanted us to sign Mckinney for a while now
     
  27. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Name recognition seems to go a long way around here.
     
  28. padre31

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    B/c dumb dumb, unless you use the #1 overall pick on a LT you are doomed!

    Wait, what?
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    McKinnie is more than name recognition. He played pretty well in the playoffs and Super Bowl for the Ravens.
     
  30. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Who has said that Mr Sarcasm?
     
  31. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Because he will still be sitting there after the draft. You play out your picks and then make your signings.

    For instance if Jags go thru with their bluff about taking an OT. I have ZERO problems offering 42 and Jake Long money to 26 year old stud LT Eugene Monroe.
     
  32. Rouk

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    close padre you need to use the #1 overall pick then refuse to pay him then trade a 2nd round pick for a lt who went 15th in the same draft and pay him 9 mil a year
     
  33. jdang307

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  34. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Remember when some folks on here thought Colombo over Mckinnie was a good idea? :shifty:
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    No. I recall most of us seriously questioning the logic of signing Colombo rather than McKinnie. Many were wondering why Brian Winters wasn't signed too.
     
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  36. Anonymous

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    For those using the Ravend as an example of why not to draft a LT high, I would stop it. Apparently they want to trade up within hand top 10 if Lane Johnson available.

    That's right. They want to trade up for a Left Tackle.
     
  37. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    Trading up for a left tackle isn't the problem the problem is doing this after you let jake long walk for nothing who we used the 1st overall pick in the draft on. I think everyone here loves starks but Jake should of been franchised and used in trade bait like albert is atm and if we couldn't trade him we could of traded up for floyd or star who might even be there at 12.
     
  38. jw3102

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    This would make sense if the Dolphins were a legitimate SB contender and they just needed to fill the LT spot for the 2013 season. Instead the Dolphins are trying to continue to build this team for the future. They are probably at least one more year away from being a legitimate playoff contender, so trading for Albert, who will be the LT for the next 3-4 years or trading up and trying to get one of the top three LT's, makes a lot more sense than signing an old LT for just one year.
     
  39. jw3102

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    If you watched the play of Long the past two seasons, he just wasn't getting the job done. Injuries have caused a big decline in his abilities and I have no doubt the Dolphins would have been more interested in signing him to a long term contract if he was still the player today, he was his first three years in the league. He was worth being the first player taken in the 2008 draft during those first three years. Unfortunately right now he is just a mediocre LT in the NFL and the Dolphins were wise to not outbid the Rams for him.

    Like it or not, the #1 need of the Dolphins right now is a quality LT who can block for Tannehill's blindside. This may not be the sexy pick, but it is the most important pick for the Dolphins in this draft. I would rather the Dolphins give up a second round pick for a proven LT, in Albert. Yet if they can't come to terms with the Chiefs, LT still is their #1 need, as far as I am concerned. I would have no problem with Ireland trading up and trying to get one of the top three LT's, if the Albert trade doesn't happen.
     
  40. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Right, but I said some not most. And it happened. I won't name names, but there was more than one who were adamant about the fact that Colombo was a better signing than McKinnie and that McKinnie probably couldn't even play the season Colombo was signed. (I think he made the pro bowl). Unfortunately, last time I bumped the thread it got shut down.
     

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