I'm with that as well. This is a gray area that will find good points to be made in many directions. My belief is this, you build champions through the draft. So while I'm concerned about the price tag on Albert, I'm much more concerned on the prospect of Ireland making a crazy move and ruining our value in the draft. I must believe that if they are in discussions with Albert, he hasn't really given merit to the possibility of selling away the top 3 rounds for any player in this year's draft.
So, we can have faith in Martin at RT, but he will struggle at LT? If he won't be solid at RT, our OL is still a mess even if we trade for and sign Albert? A lot of money and a high pick and our OL still won't be fixed? Ugh. I would be very tempted to give Martin this year at LT, with some scheme help (TE and back to help block) and sign Winston for the RT spot. OR if KC will take picks #77 and #217 for Albert, I guess we can work out a contract with him and trust Martin at RT. I would really like Eifert or the best DE left at #12.
Btw, dunno if this has been threaded yet but by profootballtalk, San Fran is looking to come up to the 13 range.
I thought the only criticism on eifert was his blocking? Don't get me wrong. Love him too. A man that size and with tony Gonzalez throw it up and I'll go get it ability, he can only be a lifesaver for tanne.
Martin doesn't need to be any better at RT than he was last year for us to make the playoffs. Our biggest problem on the line last year was Long. Your RT doesn't need to be amazing top make the playoffs.
man it finally sinks in that austin was probably just a pipe dream...i really don't know what i want at #12, i think i still prefer someone that scores touchdowns or produces chunk yardage
Fin, you sound like Tanne is ready. I love the kid. He is not ready. I'd like to see him with all of his new toys and stellar protection to boot. And I hope he's been doing nothing but working his deep ball all offseason. No conditioning, no weight lifting, no nothing. Flys all day long. If he would've hit some big shots last year we'd be looking at an entire different record. Off of my terrible memory alone , we would've made the pats look like patsies. But all of this discussion on Martin is moot. We're stuck with the kid no matter how we spin it; right tackle, left tackle, tackle box- the kids going to get punished. We must hope his motivation will lead him to train like a savage to play like a beast.
I just wonder if they are trying to get the Chiefs to flinch depending on how desperate they are to trade Albert. If the Chiefs are real serious in getting one of the top two left tackles and don't want to pay Albert the franchise amount just to let him walk at the end of the year they might be willing to take a future 2nd or maybe even a third this year. It seems to me if the Chargers were really serious about Albert they would be trying much harder to work out a trade before Miami. Also Albert is balking at playing RT for KC and the Chiefs probably want to avoid problems if they get a new LT in the draft. It will be interesting to see the outcome of the Albert situation and the timing of the eventual outcome.
When Tannehill has 3 or more seconds to throw his QB rating is in the 90s. He averaged around 2.5 seconds last year. If we trade for Albert or grab an OT at our spot, let that give you some comfort. If we trade up for an OL instead of waiting or taking Albert, then feel free to rage with me. Though I will say Austin could also improve Tannehill's numbers by making it not necessary to need 3 seconds to throw. Then again, Wallace and Keller help that too.
He's very ready. Out of the big 4 rookie QBs last year, (him, Luck, Wilson & RGIII) he had the worst pass blocking and the worst WRs and the least amount of starting experience. That should all change this year. He, like them, has stuff to work on, but he was more handicapped by his team than any of the other 3.
That can be said of every QB in the league, and as much as you can say that u can remember, I can say that many receivers didn't run the proper route or track the ball properly. its a two way street, as much as you want the QB to put it dead on every time it will never happen. Not Montana not Marino, Elway, not the Mannings, not Brees.. you have to have receivers that can track the ball and go get it too. and many times last season and further back we have had receivers drop balls miss read the defense, run a lazy route, not track the ball in the air well...its football as much as it is the QBs job to get it in the pickle barrel it is the receivers job to make up for when its not.
I don't know if this is where he read that but here's a link to an article about this. http://www.thephinsider.com/2013/4/...trade-rumors-branden-albert-on-chargers-radar
Personally, I think this is just another speculative opinion that might make sense. A lot of innuendo around theses days.
I'm willing to give Martin a year at LT, which is his natural position while signing or drafting a RT. I'd like to take Austin or Eifert at 12. Heck, I'd be happy with Lane Johnson, Warmack, or Cooper there too. Although with one more piece on the line, I think we can be OK or good enough.
The article that was linked to is indeed speculative opinion. Good thing I didn't get it from that article.
It definitely could work in Miami's favor if they are hoping to land one of the big three OT's. The Chargers are always in their way if they don't trade up.
In 1/5 season, Albert played a full season. Also $50 million for a guy with a bad back. What are some you people thinking? There a reason the Chiefs are using the 1st pick of the draft to replace him. You all love PFF, who said the guy sucked last year.
I have no idea why you think Albert's price is too high, yet you would have no problem if the Dolphins reached for Flucker with their first round pick. Albert is a proven LT in the NFL and Flucker may or may not be able to play tackle in the NFL. There are too many players with a greater chance of being successful in the NFL which the Dolphins can take at 12 and not have to reach for Flucker. I would rather see the Dolphins use their second pick in the second round to trade for Albert. The Dolphins could then use their first two picks in the draft to upgrade other ares of need on their team.
No I saw a difference in Martin, I was just commenting in general about your statement that his weight lifting is done"... As in there is no such thing for a prof.athlete.. As far as Martin, when I saw some pics of him I stated that I did see a difference in his shoulders/upper chest..haven't got to see the bubble yet though, but I look forward to checking it out.
Besides that, I just don't think Tannehill was comfortable enough to slow the mental down during the drop, set his feet comfortably, target the receiver deep, and measure it..things were going to fast, and his protection sucked.
They did not say that. They ranked Albert the 25th OT, which when you consider there are 64 starting tackles, makes him slightly above average. That does not equate with "the guy sucked."
It is Fluker not Flucker. Unless you are intentionally misspelling it in an attempt to be clever. Who is to say that Fluker would be a reach at 12? Granted he is only a RT or RG in the pros, but has the tools to be a very good one. He is very similar to Anthony Davis of the 49ers, who was drafted 11th overall in 2010. Fluker would not be my first choice at 12, but I think he will be a good NFL RT for someone.
50 million and 2nd round pick for the 24th ranked injury prone tackle, where do I sign up? Once again, he sucked.
You can say he sucked, in your opinion, but to say PFF said that is untrue. They also rated him the 7th best OT in pass blocking efficiency.
agreed. people were willing to give an oft-injured Long 8.5 million a year, but they are against giving Albert 10 million a year? not much difference depending on how the contract is structured w.r.t guaranteed money.
My bad, I didn't mean to misspell his name. If the Dolphins can't get one of the top three LT's in the draft, I would rather see them draft Warmack or Cooper with the 12th pick if they are determined to take an offensive lineman with that pick. I think RG is just as much a need as a RT for the Dolphins and I think both Warmack and Cooper will be better players at their position than Fluker will be at tackle in the NFL. I would rather the Dolphins draft Eifert, a defensive pass rusher, or a CB, in the first round, but I have been saying for weeks that I think this pick will probably be an offensive lineman. A trade for Albert might allow the Dolphins to draft another position of need, but if they don't make the trade for Albert, I just don't see them passing on drafting an offensive lineman in round one.
I do agree, after the 3 LTs my next choice if we must take an OL would be Cooper, then Warmack. Heck, some mock drafts have both guards gone by the 12th pick. Never been close to 5 OL taken in the first 11 picks before, but I guess it is possible. I much prefer we take Austin, and if he is gone then I'd be ok with Eifert.
I agree, the compensation is really what'll decide it for me. Can't get mad at overspending if it's going towards protecting Tanny.
I won't be surprised if the worst dream of Dolphin fans isn't realized. That would be the Jets drafting Austin. Now that they have two high picks in the draft, it won't surprise me if they draft Austin with one of those two picks, if he is still on the board when they select. I don't see the Dolphins taking a WR in round one because of all the money they already have tied up in the WR position at this time. They might draft a WR in the 4th round or later in the draft, but I will be surprised if they draft one with any of their first five picks.
Dolphins willing to meet Albert's price: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...phins-willing-to-meet-branden-alberts-demands
That's how it appears on the surface. We have however scouted West By God Virginia a lot. Some of the players there interest Ireland. I'm holding out hope, we somehow draft Austin and trade Bess. Heck, the talk of Miami moving up to 6 is considered to be just to take Lane Johnson. Wouldn't it be a surprise if Ireland wanted to jump Buffalo and the Jets to ensure getting...Austin? Well, I can dream for a few more days.
