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Tyrann Mathieu on how many drug tests he failed

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by ckparrothead, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Completely contradicted yourself in two sentences. Plenty of players retire before their contracts are technically up anyways.
     
  2. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    how so? you sign a contract you play it out.. if you didnt want to play for the next 4 years you should not have signed a 4 year contract.
     
  3. RickyBobby

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    Well in the comparison one was addicted to being a douche and the other was addicted to weed, but the pothead is more likely to stab you in the back? I have to ask again...why?
     
  4. RickyBobby

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    after your 3rd sentence I think you are 100% incorrect.
     
  5. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    I guess people should do the same thing when you buy a house. If you sign a mortgage for 30 years you should live in that house for 30 years no matter what.

    Contracts don't work like that, it's not a slave agreement.
     
  6. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Nope. You are incorrect. Why would two sisters in a non sexual pose lead you to such a wild conclusion?
     
  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Nor does anyone else around here, who choose to make judgments about him anyway. You may as well join in the fun.
     
  8. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    That's a pretty friendly pic. And my eyes are trained to assume porn.
     
  9. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan Well-Known Member

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    Physical vs Mental addiction. Fairly basic.

    It's a bit disturbing that they don't require police officers to take basic psychology for these type of situations.
     
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  10. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Totally different issue… but I will be your huckleberry… If you buy a house and agree to make 30 years worth of payments, that is what you agreed to do and are bound to do unless you pay your house off early or you sell the house. and you are correct it is not a slave market… however, you are giving your word… that may not mean anything to you but it does to me.
     
  11. slickj101

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    Still, a contract and most contracts have clauses and options like that. You let being a fan cloud the business of it.
     
  12. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    RW's contract didnt have a marijuana clause… no matter how much you want to pretend he did.
     
  13. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    I deal with the law. I am not a psychologist. the courts can handle that part.
     
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  14. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    You might be addicted to making things up and avoiding the points presented.
     
  15. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    could be...
     
  16. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    alcohol is far more dangerous though, people die because of alcohol
     
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  17. azfinfanmang

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    Regardless of whether it is physically addictive is completely irrelevant.

    The kid failed 10 freaking times......at least.

    The fact it cost him his spot on a very heralded College team, and certainly several millions of dollars tells me it already is an issue.

    Denial isn't a river in Egypt.
     
  18. slickj101

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    His own issues did that to him. Not some evil plant w supernatural powers.
     
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  19. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Not from an NFL asset standpoint it's not.
     
  20. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    yes you are right
     
  21. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Legally yes, physically no.

    Although it will be interesting to see how so many states allowing MM now will effect the NFL's drug policy.
     
  22. azfinfanmang

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    I'm not arguing this. I haven't been since my first post in this thread.


    My point all along, the kid KNOWS it's against the rules/laws whatever you want to throw out there. He understands the consequences. He has been REPEATEDLY "warned" and yet....minimum of 10 times...that's where he lost count?

    No way in hell am I spending a high draft pick on this kid. He obviously cares much more about getting high that he does playing football. He can verbally tell me all he wants, but his actions have repeatedly shown me much differently.
     
  23. slickj101

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    lol Def not arguing that either.
     
  24. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I was debating on just the talent alone, I guess most folks don't even believe in that from what I'm reading...I think he's a fantastic prospect with special instincts, and I agree, first round talent..one of the few players to chase down mr Austin.

    Clean, when I'm watching this kids reps, I can't describe some of the things he does with his footwork that allows him to get to the action as quick as he does..that's why I called it Majic...their lightning quick short area footwork jabs that shift his body in different directions effortlessly and very quickly...one thing that is not talked about enough is that this is a tough football player..he will fu&$ing come up, no matter how big you are, and stick you, he needs to learn to wrap better but the instincts and balls are there C...I'm totally shocked at the he's not that talented comments from some talented eyes..one of us isn't seeing what the other is..I guess that's what makes the draft great.
     
  25. djphinfan

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    last time I checked our defense was void of playmakers besides Wake..last time I checked this kid is one of the best play makers in the draft..we have starters in place, we could use a talented safety prospect on our team, besides that, I'm just really debating on his skillset and how it projects at the next level..
     
  26. slickj101

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    Both of our new ILBs are play-makers and Grimes and a few others certainly have the potential to be.
     
  27. Fin D

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    How does a player who will be suspended constantly fill a void on our team?
     
  28. djphinfan

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    sometimes in life if you take a chance on someone and it doesn't work out, you take the hit and roll, the reward in this case outweighs the risk..
     
  29. Fin D

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    Not true. Sometimes the risk isn't worth the pay off. Especially when the odds are greatly stacked against you.
     
  30. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    I don't think this guy is on our board at all.

    I hope he turns it around and grows up and has a successful career and a rewarding family life. But it won't start in Miami if I read Philbin correctly and if any shred of Parcells is left in Ireland.

    If we had stronger veteran leadership in the lockerroom.. maybe. But we keep cutting those guys.
     
  31. Celticwar17

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    Woah, your mock draft picks are like... the same ones as mine pretty much. I didn't know there were any Vaccaro at 12 people left.
     
  32. djphinfan

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    Our defense has been void of play makers for years, decades, I'm not relying on a couple of backers, I want a secondary player who reads the field, and makes plays, this guy is also without question in my eyes, the best blitzing secondary player in the draft..he makes play in the air, he makes them on the ground as well...I've seen him use those special feet to get around players twice his size to the Qb, multiple players, on the same rep..I've see him time the Qb in his head and predict the arm slot, contorting his body with small explosive movements last second to strip the football..

    Not to mention what he brings to the punt return game..both sides..natural defensive football player.
     
  33. djphinfan

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    How is it not worth the risk for me, if I believe he is a special football payer?
     
  34. Fin D

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    Because the odds are greatly not in your favor thanks to his history and taking a chance on him can undermine the culture you've tried to build.

    A player before the Felony Badger: "Coach Philbin is tough but fair and consistent."
    A player after the Felony Badger: "Coach Philbin is a hypocrite."
     
  35. Phinfanjt

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    You mean you're not really 17?
     
  36. CANDolphan

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    I'm not surprised to hear a cop say this, and I say that as someone who worked for the public defenders officer in law school. That attitude is prevalent at that level and it scares me. Not saying it's a bad thing or what not, just seems to be part of the cycle.

    But this is all a secondary discussion to the real point of this thread - T.M. I personally wouldn't draft him, kid clearly has a **** load of demons and I can't imagine the NFL fame and money will break him out of that cycle
     
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  37. KB21

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    The best playmaker in the draft at the cornerback position is Johnthan Banks. Everyone wants to focus on his forty time, but no one seems to mention that he and Dee Milliner were almost identical in the 3 cone drill and short shuttle. Plus, he's 6'2" with long arms and a 34 inch vertical.

    Much to my chagrin though, the Dolphins have not had any reported interest in Banks. It looks like Banks may go to Atlanta at the end of the first round. They, along with San Francisco and New England have been the teams looking at him the most. He doesn't get passed the Jaguars at the top of the 2nd round. Physically, Banks is very similar to Richard Sherman, and there will be some teams in the top half of this draft that will regret passing on him long term.

    Thing is, I don't think Darius Slay is far behind him. According to the stats that NUGap has on the cornerbacks, Slay probably gets his hands on more balls than any other cornerback in the draft. The guy has tremendous athleticism and also tremendous ball skills. Slay and Banks probably played a more difficult style to play than any other corner outside of Dee Milliner in this draft, as they mixed in a lot of cover 3 with off man coverage. Neither one pressed much, and both are very adept at reading the cornerback and then picking up their receiver mid stem. Slay is about 6'1" and runs sub 4.4 along with a 36 inch vertical. He's going to be an early 2nd round pick if he doesn't sneak into the 1st. Alas, I haven't seen any reports of Miami showing interest in him either.

    Both are better than Tyrann Mathieu though, and neither have the off the field baggage that Mathieu brings.
     
  38. rafael

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    Agreed on all counts, the attitude is prevalent and concerning in law enforcement and not the point of this thread. I wouldn't draft the kid b/c I see no reason to believe that he'll be any different when he has money and time. I see the odds of him becoming an inmate in the next few years are far, far likelier than the odds of him becoming the next Polamalu.
     
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  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Do you think Mathieu is tight hipped? KB does, and Stitches agreed. I think he is very fluid hipped and it's one of his best attributes. What is your opinion?
     
  40. TooGoodForDez

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    Why are we questioning things before suspension? I want to know what he has done since he declared for the draft.
     

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