Elvis Dumerville Interested In Playing For Dolphins

Elvis has left the building [screw you Broncos] now let's hope he comes home and plays for us.

 

Its an eye opener that we've been on main pages regarding headlines. Even if we don't grab Elvis its great to see our team in for good players and not average, depth guys. I'm loving it. Sidenote. Man did the Broncs screw up with Dumervill. Fax machines? Seriously? 21st Century technology is obviously not available in Colorado.

 

The fax machine he used was in Miami, and fax machines are still used widely in the business world.

 

Can't blame them looking at it with an old head on my shoulders. Since Marino left the Phins have been average. Most Free Agent players with any ounce of ambition left will want a shot at a ring. Only ring Miami has had last 10yrs was a circus one. I'm actually getting freekin pumped for Draft/pre-season and season. Not felt so good in an off-season for a long time. With the way Ireland is managing right now I've actually got confidence before the Draft. Cudos to Mr Ireland.

 

Hey, at least they got passed Pony Express finally. They'd have been really screwed then.

If we resign Jake Long like we're starting to hear will we still have the Cap to sign Dumervil?

 

That needs to change. That faux pas that the Broncos committed has cost them a cap hit of a few million $$. That's real money. To miss out, lose a player and cost them down the stretch is inexcusable in this age.

 

If Long is signed for about 10mil then that leaves 9mil left so I'm reading. I don't think we will get Dumervill but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I think Dumervill has been screwed over by his Agent and teams incompetance. I'm sure he wasn't expecting to be a Free Agent. He knows as of 2 days ago he was playing for a potential SB team next season.If we don't sign Dumervill I'm ok. Our Draft picks give us so much flexibilty and options its not a worry.

 

How often does this happen in the NFL?

I also do not believe that full responsibility, if any, belongs on the team. The team is based in Denver. Dumervil and his agent were both ~2000 miles away at a time which the Broncos told them that they would be cut if he did not accept the re-structure--months ago he was told this.

 

I agree. Agents. Hmmmm. In alot of professional sports they come across as the all wise, all seeing gurus. I'm actually happy to see one screw up. They often go missing when their lesser 'customers' need a team. I'm wondering if Dumervill will be after a 1yr deal with thoughts to returning to the Broncs?

 

Sounds like guys are lining up to play for Jeff Ireland

 

I don't think so, because as I interpret it, the Broncos were anticipating reducing Dumervil's salary from $12 million to $8 million, but with his release, they "lost" $5 million in "dead money". Doing the math, to realistically get Dumervil back on a one-year contract at the agreed upon price, he would have to accept a $3 million deal. I can't see the league reimbursing that money or overturning their decision to not recognize a verbal agreement, because it wasn't exactly an act of God to mess this all up. It was the inattentiveness and procrastination of Dumervil and his agent--regardless of what De Smith will say.

On the other hand, the Broncos could always work out an Irish-style backloaded, multi-year contract to alleviate the dead money this year, but it's anybody's guess whether or not Dumervil would be open to that.

All things considered, it's probably in Dumervil's best interest to sign elsewhere.

The Broncos were the victims here, and they'll learn from their mistake.

 

I think it's more like, guys are lining up to take the money ireland is offering.

 

Be nice if we could sign Jake for somewhere around 8-10mil and have room for Dumerville at a friendly price for us. If we could get him around the 6mil I would be all for it. Draft our CB's and we are looking pretty damn good for next year. Would really speak volumes imo if he was willing to play for us on a less than top dollar contract. That would tell me that the general feeling around the league is that we are truly building something in Miami.

 

schefter

LOL

 

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Yah was about to say that. Means Elvis is going to miss out on even more money as he waits for his new agent to be allowed to work a deal.

 

Agent waived it. He doesn't have to wait.

 

I'd be amazed if some sort or lawsuit isnt enforced as well.

 

Isn't this guy more of a 3-4 OLB than a DE? He's a little on the small side and not very strong against the run if memory serves. I don't think he's a fit for us. Enlighten me if my recollections are off.

 

He's usually played a RDE in a 4-3 in his career.

 

His agent repoftedly received the contract 9 minutes before the deadline. That's... too close for comfort. Who knows tho

 

The dude is going to be 30 years old..

 

I wish he would take 7mil Him & Wake would be mad...........

 

Enough. It's time to stop by and think about the draft, the future. Seriously, u guys don't think we are superbowl contender huh? Its gonna take at least 3yrs to go to superbowl. If we use all these money to just fit salary cap right now, we will go down. We should see how Tannys gonna improve. We should wait untill new FA guys melting into the fins and 13' rookies might as well.

 

Oh, well.. Far be it from me to the the grammar police - however. Getting some 13' (thirteen foot) rookies would solve a whole lot of problems - Get four of them to play defensive line and the opponents passing game and field goal, and maybe even extra point games would suffer tremendously!

But, you are right. We need to look at not only getting some important pieces to the puzzle in FA, but mostly building through the draft. We are just beginning to purge ourselves of the Parcellian blueprint for drafting (It usually takes about 3-4 years!) and this is the first full year with Philbin informing Ireland about the style of play and the type of players which will best fit that style of play.

Get Jake back in the fold, and it would be time to start looking to the draft, and filling in lack of depth in certain places...primarily CB and getting a pressure RDE would be good for me - with the proviso that if someone who would fit very smoothly into the team and is of starting calibre in a position of team weakness, that player would be fair game for quick snatch, grab, and run laughing all the way back to the huddle!

 

lol sorry about ma grammar. It's not my mother tongue. 13' Rookie is not 13 foot rookie lol it means 2013 rookie class. Wish we have 13 foot player tho.

 

Yeah, Get Jake back and I think we should be looking at the draft for any additional help. Remember we still have 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds and there is a good chance we can pick up an additional 4th via a compensatory pick. 7 picks in the 1st 4 rounds would be awesome.

 

I would love to know the numbers behind Jakes offers.

The longer he vacillates the less I want him back.

We have plenty of picks and there are plenty of young, talented, inexpensive linemen in this years draft.

If he is holding out on signing just to get a bit more money at this point, it's starting to make less and less sense. If the money is similar, as some have reported, then just make a decision already bro. The longer he waits, imo, the less leverage he has.

Time to move on. The train needs to leave the station.

Regarding Dumervil, I don't know enough about him outside of his reputation.
I was also under the impression he was more of an OLB who rushed from DE on third downs.

I don't want to pay to dollar for that when we could get Corey Lemonier in the 2nd round as that rotational player. You spend that much money, you want the guy on the field for all three downs, IMO.

 

I figured that's what you meant. (Apostrophe before indicates year, after indicates feet). And English is a very confusing language. What is you Mother Tongue, by the way?

I just could not resist the idea that flashed through my mind of someone bigger than Andrea the Giant playing football. It also reminded me of a short story by Asimov, I think, about a coach who recruited a bunch of Yeti's to play offensive line for him (after he shaved them!) for a very tiny technical school. Needless to say, they had an undefeated season and everyone wonder where he found the lineman.

But, I digress. Your point, though, was very good.

NOTE: And I cannot type today. My blood sugar has bottomed and taken most of my brain cells with it!

 

I see... so '13 rookie class would be the correct sentence. I'm korean by the way.

And teaching football to Yeti's sounds interesting They'll be good especially at the foxboro stadium. I can imagine they are trying to kill Brady and that is just so ****ing sweeeeet.

 

Will cost too much money and take snaps away from Vernon so I do not want.


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I'm not too hot on paying Dumerville a ton of cash either but Vernon looks to be a run n chase LBer and special teamer. Grab a pass rush specialist somewhere in this years draft. Best case scenario is Philbin wasn't full of hot air when he said he was looking forward to watching Kaduu progress and he does just that.

 

We in there.

 

It's really interesting that they're onto him.

I wonder what they're prepared to offer him. That's the interesting part to me. Because I doubt they're paying him like a full time player. It could be that with Osi asking for more than $5 million a year, Abraham likely asking for the same, and who knows on Freeney but I got the feeling he was starting to lose it last year, that it only makes sense to them that if they NEED to shell out that much money just to get enough skin in the game on a partial pass rusher, then they ought to it right and get the youngest and best.

Dumervil is certainly the youngest though IMO not necessarily the best.

 

Just putting it out there. In terms of pass rush production amongst all 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB pass rushers from 2008 to 2012, I have the following rankings for free agents (plus Cam Wake):

Cameron Wake
Right: #38 of 168
Left: #3 of 160
Total: #2 of 238

John Abraham
Right: #4 of 168
Left: #1 of 160
Total: #4 of 238

Antwan Barnes
Right: #2 of 168
Left: #20 of 160
Total: #5 of 238

Juqua Parker
Right: #14 of 168
Left: #42 of 160
Total: #30 of 238

Paul Kruger
Right: #76 of 168
Left: #14 of 160
Total: #42 of 238

Elvis Dumervil
Right: #33 of 168
Left: #21 of 160
Total: #43 of 238

Dwight Freeney
Right: #22 of 168
Left: (did not qualify)
Total: #45 of 238

Michael Bennett
Right: #79 of 168
Left: #55 of 160
Total: #51 of 238

Cliff Avril
Right: #121 of 168
Left: #41 of 160
Total: #55 of 238

Shaun Phillips
Right: #27 of 168
Left: #80 of 160
Total: #71 of 238

Osi Umenyiora
Right: #55 of 168
Left: (did not qualify)
Total: #105 of 238

Qualification for each category was 100+ snaps.

 

Neither the Ravens nor the Broncos have much cash to offer this off-season. It could be that Miami sees an opportunity to snag Dumervil. Ireland may have done it again, allowing those two teams to set the market.

 

Antwan Barnes' contract with the Jets is for 3 years and $4 million by the way. Keep that in mind as you see the Dolphins offer $5 million to guys who have been less efficient pass rushers over the last 5 years.

 

They were interested in him by the way.

Could they be looking at a return to a true one-gap 3-4?