PFT - Vikings Prepared to give Wallace 13 Million per year

If Minny really is in on this, don't forget the impact of Fla's no state tax. At this rate of pay, it can make a huge difference.

 

Wasn't Marshall's deal with Miami for 4 years/ 44 million? And that was 4 years ago.

If that same Brandon Marshall at the same age was a UFA in 2013, he'd be commanding 5 years 65 million.

EDIT: It was 4 years 47 million. Even better.

 

I think no matter what happens, the Fins have to be in "protect" mode from the fans and media...They may be very serious in negotiations with Wallace and he may still decide to go elsewhere. The Vikings may, in fact, offer $13m and even I don't want to go there for Wallace (as much as I'd like to see Wallace here). The media is continually reporting that "Miami is the likely landing spot for Wallace", so if it does not come to pass, the organization looks like a buffoon...again...

One thing for sure, no matter what Ireland does now he'll be criticized by half the fans...if they pay Wallace $12m instead of $10m, he'll be accused of being desparate and overspending. If Wallace takes an offer from the Vikes or NE or whoever and doesn't come here, it'll be because Irish screwed it up again, no matter what the situation really is...

I really think this "Miami is the likely landing spot for Wallace" is worrying the fins because anything can happen in negotiations and we may very well want him badly and he simply decides to go elsewhere, be that for money or other reasons. And perhaps Wallace really is asking for the $13M a year and that is where they've collectively decided to cut their losses at. And no matter how it's explained afterwards, it'll look like a fail to many...

And maybe none of this is true and they are looking elsewhere instead of Wallace. If so, it'll be a fail to many because we didn't get the biggest fish. The problem is that releasing 'true' information (you know, what they are really thinking and really wanting to accomplish) puts them at a competitive disadvantage. So, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't....

I would not want to be Ireland today....he's going to hanged in effigy no matter which way things go...

 

Which I'm not sure why.

The same Marshall from 2010 would be asking for considerably more than Mike Wallace is now on a most likely longer term.

Mike Wallace is a lesser player, and like such will be paid at a lesser rate. By us or whomever else

 

None of us know anything right now with all of this posturing... What makes me think Miami will land Wallace is the fact that Schefter and all of the other national guys are saying so. They have, however, been wrong in the past.

I say...Save the 13Mill contract and grab Jennings, Cook and a FA CB. Then draft a WR in the 2nd. That would make me

 

Please please please be true. IMHO we would be better off w/o Wallace and spending the money else where, and drafting 2 WRs in the 1st 3 rounds of the draft. Bailey and Swope ( my preferred choice). Shine and I would consider trading Bess and drafting another WR with our 1st, if we could drop back a few spots.

 

This PFT article says that "Miami EXPECTs Minnesota to offer $13 million", not that Minnesota is going to offer $13 million. My guess is, this is a report leaked out by Miami because of the reports last night that said Miami was the only serious bidder for Mike Wallace. The Dolphins have to make this look like they won a bidding war, when in fact, they are only bidding against themselves for the services of a one trick pony.

 

This, sadly, is probably correct.

 

im starting to think you have your response ready to copy and paste for any thread with Wallace in the title.

Broken record

FWIW I'm closer to indifferent about MW than for him, but i've seen more than one trick, on multiple occasions.

 

and expect 7-9 once again. If you are going to be that conservative, don't b!tch about not getting into the playoffs. Most of the teams that make it, make some kind of bold move to get there.

Am I advocating Wallace at this number, not necessarily but Ireland needs to do something and not just recoil at all the FA because he's going to have to over pay. You know you have to pay in FA if you don't draft well enough to make FA unnecessary or just a minor part of building your team.

That is why this off-season makes or breaks Jeff Ireland. Does he have the balls to play with the big boys, or continue to put his team into NFL Hell (mediocrity) which is harder to climb out of than being at the bottom. His owner, his coaches and the teams fans are counting on him - and he needs to deliver.

 

IMO, those of you who think he is good at anything other than going down the field are only seeing what you want to see. Go watch some film on Greg Jennings and tell me that you see Mike Wallace doing the things that Jennings does on the field as far as running a complete route tree with precision, giving his quarterback an easy target to throw to, using his hands to create separation, and using his body to shield the defender.

 

There you go again.

 

The problem with this line of thought is that not only do we know that you have to overpay in free agency, we also know that most big money free agents also fail to produce to the expectations of their contract and end up becoming albatrosses. But let's ignore the poor success rate of free agency and overpay for a one trick pony just to make a statement.

The other flaw in this thinking is the idea that a wide receiver is going to markedly improve the team. It's not. That position doesn't make enough of an impact to markedly improve the team.

 

I don't want Wallace and would love to have Jennings, but why are you making up stuff up?

 

I think we sign two WR's today.

 

And so what ? Most of the Vikings are probably elsewhere today other than Minneapolis. This is a non-factor really, especially since they play indoors.

 

Your serious pants have a hole in them. Maybe you should change into your "take a joke" cutt-offs.

 

I don't even..... So what you're saying is we don't need to improve the WR corps and can keep the same starters as last year since there wouldn't really be any improvement?

And I like how you say people who see Wallace play decently are seeing what they want to see. I dont give two ****s about Wallace, and I still don't see what you're saying.

 

What am I making up? Am I making up the idea that Miami is the only serious bidder for Mike Wallace at the $12-13 million price tag? Because if I am making that up, so are various other major media outlets. I did tell y'all the other day though that Miami would be bidding against themselves, as this is an overreaction to the perception that they underestimated the market last year.

 

This. This is free agency but there's nothing free about it. If you want a good player its going to cost you. thats just the way it is. Otherwise we can be right here again next year doing the same old song and dance about how we have no playmakers and on and on and on. Playmakers cost money. Their agents know it, the players themselves know that big plays = big contracts. Thats just the way it is in the NFL. Its no different then a baseball player who smacks 30 homers wanting to get paid or a NBA player who scores 20 a night wanting to get paid. You can't sit there and complain about the prices when youre shopping at the Gucci store or whatever.

 

Damn..you just described Brandon Marshall.

Oh wait...you hated him too. Yet you like the old guy (Jennings) on his last legs. The very definition of bad money.

 

I have never said the team doesn't need to improve the receiver position. I'm saying that this is a position that you shouldn't spend big money on, and I'm saying that this also isn't a position that will automatically make this team a Superbowl contender just by signing one guy to a ridiculously massive contract for what he does on the field. Most of you thought Brandon Marshall would improve the team by 7 points a game, and you are falling into the same trap with Mike Wallace.

What Miami should be doing is taking an approach that will ensure they have sustained success over the long haul and get out of the we have to win now mindset that is going to cause them to severely overpay to land Mike Wallace and likely overpay to land Jared Cook.

 

Some news outlets are seeing we're it. Some are saying we aren't.

The truth is we don't know. You seem to have this scenario in your head that is completely colored by your dislike of Wallace in this offense.

 

When has Greg Jennings every thrown his quarterback under the bus, been a cancer in the locker room, and beat on women off the field?

 

Uh..those same Vikings have to live there during the season.

So yeah..it matters.

 

Reports are that the Vikings and someone else, are in on the bidding.

 

When has he ever caught 118 balls for 1,508 yards and 11 td's?

 

The vikings will be playing outdoors for the next 2 years while there new dome gets built, not to mention the stadium(college stadium) they will be playing in has very few boxes so less money coming in to the vikings.

 

You are right, she probably spoke out of turn.

 

Wouldnt surprise me if its the Pats. Brandon Lloyd may be getting cut soon so it would make some sense...at the very least they'll attempt to drive up the price on us.

 

When you don't have a position, you spend money on it. Let alone the single weakest unit of your team. WR = automatic Superbowl contender? what? No one is making the argument you are trying to defend.

 

BTW.... I love Greg Jennings. Highly productive.

Now....invent a time machine..and send me the one from 2009-2010...and we are set.

But he will go for 8 mil at least, and that is a terrible number for a guy that has that "LOOK"

 

They are only a year apart in age.

In 2010, GJ caught 76 balls for 1265 yrds and and 12 TDs which shows he does more with the ball then BM did this year. And GJ did that while splitting receptions with all the other excellent WRs GB has.

 

When has he ever been targeted 190+ times?

Greg Jennings caught 97 for 1,568 and 14 TDs on only 157 targets. That's 10 yards per target, a number that Brandon Marshall has never approached. So, Marshall in a year where he received almost 40% of the targets the Bears threw, still couldn't outproduce Jennings's best season where he was targeted only 23% of the time.

 

Are you related to her? Do we have a judicial process in this country? A Commissioner that monitors these things?

 

you act as though Jennings would be a cheap option, when his camp has already mentioned they will be looking for similar money to what Wallace is going to demand.

 

I want GJ more than anyone else on the table for the right price, but he is on his decline. If any of the reports of his ridiculous asking price have even a miniscule amount of truth to them, there is just no way. I just hope if MW is inked its closer to 10 than 13.