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Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by ckparrothead, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Updating again...2 picks until I'm up...

    WR Chris Harper, Kansas State
    WR Mark Harrison, Rutgers
    WR Marquess Wilson, Washington State
    OT Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
    OG Brian Winters, Kent State
    OG Brian Schwenke, California
    CB Leon McFadden, San Diego State
    CB B.W. Webb, William & Mary
    FS Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse

    I also may have three trade options on the table:

    Trade #3: Trade back from #82 (180 points) to #105 (84 points), receive #121 (52 points) and #141 (36 points) in exchange. (non-responsive)
    Trade #4: Trade back from #82 (180 points) to #88 (150 points), compensation not worked out yet

    Right now I'm leaning toward Shamarko Thomas absent a trade agreement. (now negotiating over pick #93).
     
  2. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Go Love Yourself.
     
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  3. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    1) Do trade 4 if possible
    2) You may be feeling scarcity around the thought of safeties because of the run on them. Don't let that influence you to take him over a superior player... we HAVE starting safeties, so strictly speaking it has to be BPA now doesn't it?
     
  4. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Terron Armstead at TE. :)
     
  5. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    LOL. Could always do that.

    I don't think a trade is going to materialize.
     
  6. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    So did you trade #82?
     
  7. Die_Nasty

    Die_Nasty Well-Known Member

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    Shark shark shark!
     
  8. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Is Shamarko better than Clemons? not sure. I like his physicality but I am not sure he is better.

    Tharold Simon CB or Cornelius Washington DE or Goodwin WR
     
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  9. Bjorn

    Bjorn Season Ticket Holder

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    Shamarko Thomas
     
  10. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Armstead got taken right before the Dolphins pick.
     
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  11. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Green was choice A :lol:. I'd franchise Jake to be honest.

    No Sio Moore?
     
  12. peakz

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    Draft Schwenke and don't look back!
     
  13. Claymore95

    Claymore95 Working on it... Club Member

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    Is Shamarko enough of an upgrade over Clemons to take over a position of need? If not, take Schwenke or Webb, either of whom could start for us, especially Schwenke.
     
  14. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Long is not worth that kind of money… and I think Sio Moore was already selected.
     
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  15. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Have to agree with you here… CC is not a bad player and the upgrade of JJ with someone like Schwenke would have a bigger impact on the team… IMO
     
  16. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    CK, do you still have a 4th round pick?
     
  17. peakz

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  18. Bjorn

    Bjorn Season Ticket Holder

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    We need some DBS, however u get them
     
  19. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    the next dimension
    Bye bye Clemons
     
  20. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    So status quo on the oline, CK?
     
  21. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Essentially. That and free agency.
     
  22. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Thee...Ohio State University
    Why?
     
  23. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    He got ate by a Shark.





    Brw what's your opinion of that big tackle from OSU?
     
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  24. Fin-Omenal

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    Oddly enough I compare his play too a Randy Starks. Moves his opponents, stuffs the run,deceptive pass rusher and quicker than people think. He will be a top 20 pick IMO and deservedly so.
     
  25. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    I'm sorry I meant the lesser known offensive tackle
     
  26. ckparrothead

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    1.12 - DE Bjoern Werner, Florida State
    Every year there is an immediate knee-jerk reaction to how players perform at the NFL's underwear Olympics. This year's victims include defensive tackle Star Lotulelei (whose crime was succumbing to dehydration from his weight loss program, and being unable to work out) and defensive end Bjoern Werner (who put up mediocre numbers in his underwear). The Miami Dolphins had a difficult time believing that both were on the board at 12. Grades on Star and Bjoern were similar, but the Dolphins intend to extend defensive tackle Randy Starks in order to keep their defensive tackle unit in tact. Werner fit a need. The Dolphins could have chosen to go with a need pick at corner in Alabama's Dee Milliner, but Werner is a better defensive end than Milliner is a corner. Werner's burst and timing off the snap is the most consistent in the Draft. He is the most heads up defensive end in the Draft. He has a full range of counters and heavy hands. He uses his hands and feet in harmony, and he gets off blocks to make plays on the ball. He plays even better from the right side than from the left, which is key for Miami's needs, and he even has the versatility to work in space. His biggest weakness is a lack of consistent snap-to-whistle motor. But one training camp should cure him of any illusion that it's OK in the NFL to pull up on a play just because you think the ball has gotten out of your range. His overall awareness makes him a constant threat to swat the ball at the line of scrimmage, much like J.J. Watt of the Houston Texans, and he proved it by having the second most pass breakups of any defensive lineman in the nation in 2012. He is a complete, three down defensive end with the versatility to work multiple positions at need.

    1.22 - WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
    The Miami Dolphins felt they could not sit idly by as the top wide receiver in the NFL Draft slipped all the way to pick 22. They had to find a way to move up. Evaluated by former NFL General Managers such as Scott Pioli, Mike Tannenbaum and Charlie Casserly, not to mention former scouts Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks, to be worthy of top 10 or top 12 selection, Patterson is the most dynamic player at his position. The irony is Patterson did not disappoint with his underwear Olympics performance in any way. He ran an unofficial 4.37 in the 40 yard dash, and close examination of the film of his run shows that he actually ran even faster than that. We can only guess that he slipped on a completely unsubstantiated rumor (in all likelihood a planted piece of misdirection) that he was suffering poor interviews. Patterson is a good kid that possesses none of the selfishness or anger issues we have seen with other troubled players such as Dez Bryant or Michael Crabtree. Instead, he suffers a slight case of absent-mindedness which sometimes manifests on the field but is not uncommon at the position. He has the pure speed to take the top off a defense that you find in a Mike Wallace, yet moves with the football in his hands like Percy Harvin. Reports of bad hands remained unsubstantiated despite a thorough examination of his film. So too were claims of having run a limited route tree, or being unable to learn a playbook. The Miami Dolphins were happy to add a player to the stables that has the ability to be a true number one receiver at the next level.

    2.24 - TE Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
    With a premium defensive end to play opposite Cameron Wake and a potential #1 wide receiver already in the fold, the Miami Dolphins begin revamping a tight ends unit that has suffered through a combination of neglect and poor luck. Travis Kelce is the anti-Egnew. He is intensely physical, angry, tough, strong, very athletic and possesses very strong ball skills. He was consistently featured in the Cincinnati Bearcat pass offense yet stayed productive and made plays whenever given the chance. The Bearcats moved him all over the field in order to give him the opportunity to be a mismatch against multiple positions. He is one of the strongest blockers in the Draft (some believe the strongest), yet he runs solidly in the 4.6's, makes people miss after the catch, and gets up the field as fast as the wide receivers in his offense. He finishes plays.

    3.20 - FS Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse
    The Dolphins were tempted to take California center Brian Schwenke at this pick with the idea of moving him to guard. However, in the end they chose to go with their highest conviction player left on the board, adding a 'Shark' to their Dolphin-infested waters. Shamarko Thomas has been through hell and come out the other side a stronger man for it. Within the span of 9 months, he lost both parents and became the head of household for 5 younger siblings. He could have chosen to come out for the NFL Draft after 2011 in order to provide for his family, but instead chose to delay gratification, get better at his craft, and put himself in the best position possible to do them the most good. He approaches his preparation and workouts with a zeal rare even for professional players, let alone college players. While other college players watch television or play video games, he is outside his house pushing his car uphill by himself to train. The Dolphins' General Manager saw firsthand that, as a safety, Shamarko had better footwork than any corner at the East-West Shrine practices. He has true 4.3 speed and can leap across Springfield Gorge unaided. He is not a good player because he performed well at the NFL Combine. He was a good player on tape which allowed us to easily predict that he would perform well at the Combine. In replacing departing free agent Chris Clemons, he gives the Dolphins the same speed that Clemons had in support, with much more physicality and superior instincts. And as a bonus, you will never, ever, ever have to light a fire under the man. His fire already burns bright and hot.
     
  27. sports24/7

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    That would be a fantastic first 3 picks. I don't know much about Thomas, but Werner, Patterson, and Kelce would be a great haul and fill the Dolphins top 3 needs IMO.
     
  28. BuckeyeKing

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    I'd shop him. I wouldn't let Jake walk. I'd rather tag him and groom Martin or a drafted tackle for the future.
     
  29. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I already know exactly who I am taking in the 6th round, I just hope he's actually there. He should be, but all it takes is one guy who is onto him.

    I'm going to be pretty nervous over the next...EIGHTY picks.
     
  30. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Fauria… DUH
     
  31. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Nope.
     
  32. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Since I've only got four picks left I'm going to put down some of the guys I'm thinking of for my picks #174, #204, #206 and #208.

    QB Peter Lalich, California (PA)
    RB Ray Graham, Pittsburgh
    RB Cierre Wood, Notre Dame
    RB Knile Davis, Arkansas
    RB Dennis Johnson, Arkansas
    FB Lonnie Pryor, Florida State
    FB Kyle Juszczyk, Harvard
    WR Conner Vernon, Duke
    WR Marquess Wilson, Washington State
    WR Josh Boyce, TCU
    WR Mark Harrison, Rutgers
    TE Chris Gragg, Arkansas
    TE Joseph Fauria, UCLA
    OT Xavier Nixon, Florida
    OG Hugh Thornton, Illinois
    DE Devin Taylor, South Carolina
    DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia
    DE William Gholston, Michigan State
    DE Quanterus Smith, Western Kentucky
    LB DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina
    LB Travis Johnson, San Jose State
    LB Michael Mauti, Penn State
    LB Jake Knott, Iowa State
    LB A.J. Klein, Iowa State
    LB Vince Williams, Florida State
    CB Nickell Robey, USC
    CB Brandon McGee, Miami (FL)
    CB Terry Hawthorne, Illinois
    CB Sanders Commings, Georgia
    CB Kayvon Webster, South Florida
     
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  33. djphinfan

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    Ill take a shot at who you will select if given a chance..

    Dennis Johnson

    Marquess Wilson

    Cornelious washigton

    Nickell Robey

    ??
     
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  34. TooGoodForDez

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    RB Ray Graham, Pittsburgh - Good juke moves, poor visiom, good toughness, average speed.

    RB Knile Davis, Arkansas - Can be a beast if he goes to 2010 level.

    RB Dennis Johnson, Arkansas - Tough runner and tough to find in a hole, good vision, below average speed.


    WR Conner Vernon, Duke - meh, acorn. But could be the actual Dolphin pick for this system. Good hands and effort. Could be a productive 3rd wideout, but we have that on the team.



    TE Chris Gragg, Arkansas - Would be a nice one/two punch at TE with Kelce.

    OT Xavier Nixon, Florida - NO

    DE Devin Taylor, South Carolina - Too inconsistent.

    DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia - YES.

    LB DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina - I may have to look more closely but I do not see the hype.

    LB A.J. Klein, Iowa State - Poor Senior Bowl imo

    LB Vince Williams, Florida State - Severely underrated.

    CB Kayvon Webster, South Florida - I liked him at the combine.




    Do Not See The Hou Cb on the list, what's up?
     
  35. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    not buying IT!
     
  36. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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  37. ckparrothead

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    Hah, I guess you might consider those to be on the short-short list.
     
  38. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Would you consider Kenjon Barner if he slides? Marcus Lattimore?
     
  39. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Barner no. Lattimore yes. But Lattimore won't slide IMO.
     
  40. Clark Kent

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    Is that one guy Marquis Wilson?
     

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