Report: Jake Long wants “at least” $10 million annually

I think Long is just too banged up with the type of injuries that will hound him. I'm ok with flipping Martin, looking for a RT or looking elsewhere for a LT.

 

So much for the home team discount. So long Mr Long. Nice to see you were all about the money.

 

Good luck Jake, hope you can stay healthy for your next NFL team.

 

Bye Bye.

 

If you were often injured for the last two seasons and realistically are cynical about a really long playing career, wouldn't you be all about the money too? You'd be lying if you said otherwise.

 

As a big Jake Long fan, I have to say that I think that is just too much money for a player that seems to be having a hard time staying healthy, and playing up to his talent level. Not sure that Martin is the answer at LT, but I think you have to let Long walk and try to replace him with the best possible option.

 

When we saw the announcement last draft of our 2nd round pick, I think most of us had the thought cross our minds that this could be Jake's replacement after one season.

 

Honestly I might take 10 mil a year if it means a 2 year deal. See if he can come back and be the player he was, if not release him next year. I would rather 8 mil but I don't trust Martin at LT and unless we are drafting, Joeckel, Fisher or Lane Johnson with our first, I'd rather have him back then go through what the Cards and Bears went through this year

 

He's already made enough money to last a lifetime to be fair. I don't hold it against him incidentally, but if he wanted to stay he'd make it happen. All the best to him at his next team, but he's pricing himself out of Miami at the rate he's demanding.

 

This. Set up a contract that is performance based...pay him top shelf dollars if he performs but have the option to send him home if he cant perform. If he doesnt accpet this sort of deal then run away.....

 

Report: Jake Long wants “at least” $10 million annually

If we let Long walk, a year from now we'll be begging to trade $10mil for a better LT than Jon Martin.

"On and on we sing the song, cuz you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone..."

 

Hit me!

 

If we sign Jake, we'll be crying when his knee gives out again.

On Hard Knocks when I saw all that armor on both his knees, in pre-season, I thought to myself, no way I'd resign him ... But I'm not a GM of course.

 

Most teams require all that "armor" on their linemen.

facts are that most of the great linemen wear knee braces and have had many maintenance surgeries.

Knee braces on both knees is rather commonplace for NFL linemen.

 

I don't recall the other lineman having it on. I could be mistaken.

And I don't recall them forcing him to do it. They're doing it because of his knee injuries.

 

irrelevant what he made before. you look at it from perspective that you many only have a couple years left of true earning power and try to maximize it. he did have a huge rookie contract, but he should be allowed to cash out for his 2nd one too. He's earned it playing injured all the time. Doesn't mean we have to be the one to pay him though.

 

Man we just can't lose a former #1 overall pick for nothing, I mean the more I think about it the sicker it makes me. There is a reason why we haven't sniffed the playoffs in years.

 

I think he is only worth 7-8 million per year. Not a penny higher.. We took a chance on this guy with the #1 overall pick (I personally wanted Chris Long). I think the guy should take the contract.

If not, then I seriously think we will use one of those extra draft picks to trade up to take Eric Fisher in front of San Diego.

 

Most offensive linemen do where knee braces because they get rolled up on in the trenches all the time. I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to tear your ACL when you wear those heavy duty braces. You can strain stuff, but not tear. Most offensive linemen do where them and are sometimes required to, especially after a knee injury.

 

Jake has been wearing those knee braces since he was at Michigan.

 

It's chalked under preventive maintenance now for the congestion that the trenches create.

 

he has the same "knee injuries" that every other NFL O-lineman have.

 

I'm not in favour of creating another hole on the OL, we've been trying to fix it for a few years and have been unable to do so. Sometimes it's "better the devil you know".

Jake's played through a few injuries over the last couple of years and even this year (which was a massive drop off from previous years) he was still probably our 2nd best lineman.

He's after 10, if we can get that down to 9 I would sign him and move onto finding guys that can score touchdowns.

 

Possibly, but we'd all balk at spending that $10 mill on a guy coming off of a back injury and the appearance of breaking down in general.

 

I guess the question is, are we better off letting Long walk? Or will signing him for $10 mill just leave us with the same hole when he has yet another body break down and $10 mill less cap space (or not having filled another hole or two with that money)?

 

I thought Long's recent injury was a triceps muscle.

 

Ok, I get it.



He's got knee, shoulder and arm problems. He's breaking down, and who knows if he's going to magically recover.

 

nice picture signifying nothing.

 

At 10 mil per year, I say no. I would only say yes to 7. Nothing more.

 

Another issue that's being skirted is that Martin is flat out a better LT than RT. Do you take Jon Martin + Draft Pick/Free Agent signing ($5 mil or so)? Or do you go Long + Martin?

The more I think about it, the more I want someone with zero injury concerns, and lock them up for a 3-5 year period. There are some solid F/As available for the RT position.

 

I don't think this is that difficult, make sure his injuries will be healed up, make sure his heart is here, and give him 9 to 10 mill a year...you know the guy has great work ethic, is a tough sob, and is a great player when healthy..27 year old player, lets stop predicting the future.

 

Are you predicting he stays healthy for the next 3-5 years?

 

So you can't use habit and previous history to make an educated guess on the future? That's... illogical.

 

If his injuries check out, and their not the degenerative type, we know the man is dedicated in the weight room, I would not fear giving him a contract at 27 based on the past injuries, I do feel like the contract should reflect that he hasn't played in a good portion of the season of the last two years, and he should be smart enough to know that that has to be our perspective..

If he's not willing to take into account the past two years and his injuries, and won't compromise some on the contract, then I don't think that's fair by his him and his camp, and that would affect negotiations.

 

If he's 100 percent for the start of camp, his past injuries would not deter me from signing him, but like I said, the injuries the past two years need to be reflected in the monetary value of the contract, but I feel like his camp should understand that and not think we should ignore it.

 

Yet you said we should be signing him to 10 million a year. That, to me, says you feel we should ignore those injuries. The contracts being discussed by Miami are contracts that take his injuries into account. Lower the risk.

Some guys are simply more injury prone than others. It's a simple fact of life and part of the risk you take with certain players. Jake Long, thus far, has demonstrated and he simply is an injury prone guy.

 

What all injuries has he had? Knee sprain that he played through. Torn labrum end of 2011 season. Torn triceps toward the end of this past season. All those things are really not related to one another are they? It isn't like he has one chronic condition that keeps flaring up every year. From what I can tell anyway. If those things all had successful surgeries and rehab, they are not anymore likely to recur with Jake than they are just happen anew with another lineman are they? I cannot recall a lineman tearing a triceps, repairing and rehabbing it properly, then have it tear again in the following season or two.

 

Nor should you have to, because all we're looking at is a guy who, the past 3 seasons without fail, has demonstrated that he simply is unable to stay healthy. Just because you don't aggravate the same injury over and over does not clear you from being injury prone. I have no idea why people think like that.

 

he's got ya there. the big question is do you have a pornstache going for you . kidding

 

I think 9 million is ideal, and is lower than I expected him to ask, I originally thought we were talking about 13 mill..