that is so darn funny because I amsitting here saying the same thing . Quick someone page Jeff Ireland and Mr Ross . this is sad becuase i think if we had real playmakers i think the stadium would have less e mpty seats.
IDK, probably feels like grabbin' an unwrapped roll of cookie dough. Who doesn't like cookies when they're drunk?
Just remember how much a beast Rolando McClain looked a few years ago in this game, look where that got him.
I always thought ND and its top players were overated.Going up in class has finally proved that.Give me Jarvis Jones over Manti Te'o anytime.
I thought McClain was one-dimensional back then. Downhill run stopper. - sent from my Android device via Tapatalk -
The stadium does sound loud when its full for Dolphins games...of course those have been few and far between since 2004. Some in 2006 and 2009 had some excitement. But now it must be burned down after Dick Satan walked on its grass again. (about the game...Ohio State should be playing)
The stadium was very loud for those back to back primetime games against the Jets and Pats in 2010, after starting out 2-0. Sigh. I had such high hopes that season. 6-2 on the road. 1-7 at home that year. That's unfathomable.
I think Ohio State gets run outta this game too. In my perfect world, Texas A&M is playing tonight. - sent from my Android device via Tapatalk -
ROFLMAO @ Nick Saban's team. The QB and C hate each other now; shoving and screaming at each other. Nick Saban on the sidelines about to murder someone. They're up 42-7. Nobody's smiling.
I do not believe I've ever seen anyone comment that Joe Robbie Stadium cannot get loud. Of course it can. Any stadium can "get loud". That said, not all stadiums can get elite loud. Loud to decibel levels that shake cameras and give you a headache it's so loud. So loud that opposing teams are clearly disrupted. That's the level of loud the OB delivered in that closed end zone. It was a real life home field advantage and many teams players mentioned it over the years. It's not some Paul Bunyan type legend us old timers dreamed up to make the old days seem better than they were like some like to try and make this argument out to be. It simply was a better stadium for crowd noise. Fans that didn't regularly attend Phins or Canes games at the OB just don't get it. It's ok, but trust me, you just don't have a solid reference of what loud is.
Really? Since Jeff Ireland arrived as general manager in 2008, the Dolphins have spent more money and used more picks in the first four rounds of the NFL Draft on the offensive line than any other position. Some of those decisions have paid dividends, including drafting emerging center Mike Pouncey, but the harsh reality is this: Five years later, the Dolphins are still left with a unit that can’t consistently dislodge defenders in the run game, has too many breakdowns in pass protection and can’t dominate an opposing defense for more than short occasional stretches. The offensive line.. Satele to Grove, Donald Thomas to John Jerry, Jake Grove to Joe Berger, Justin Smiley to Incognito, Thomas to Incognito, Incognito to Jerry, Marc Columbo to Martin. The only consistency had been LT and RT and now it's Center but had to go back and replace RT and now the LT is an impending free agent..... I absolutely agree with building from the trenches on out but they've been building and rebuilding this line since day one and it's YET to be a strength of the team.
I have never been a ND fan, but thought their defense proved itself worthy against the big-boys during the season...Mich St. 3 points, Michigan 6 points, Stanford 13 points including OT, Oklahoma 13 points. I thought this was much more of a statement of how good Alabama is than how overrated ND was. But definitely tonight was a mismatch.
Shhhh, let them think they were right because the stadium is full of young folk for a national title game featuring the 1 and 2 ranked teams in the country.. I'm not gonna even begin to explain to Oz, he's proclaiming he told us so..lol...told us what???
This game showed me a few things... - Offensive line and running the football down the other teams throat always has and always will have a place in this sport. Roger Goodell can bend and change the rules all damn day. People can go on and on about "quarterbacks league" but, if you can block the other team into submission and ram it down their throats down after down you will always win. - Notre Dame was/is ridiculously overrated. - I want Eifert. Not at #12 but I want him. Ireland has the ammo to move up if we need to. - I still like Manti Te'o and would love to have him in the middle of our defense BUT tonight he stepped up in weight class and got it handed to him, all night. That troubles me a little bit. I would not take him in the first round (if we stay where we are). I have issues taking middle linebackers that high. Go defensive or offensive line, corner or receiver. - I also want Eddie Lacey. Combine him with Lamar Miller? Delicious. - I hate Nick Saban but damn, this is a dynasty. It's not like they are going away anytime soon either. If we walked out of round three with the BPA in round one (corner or a lineman), Eifert and Lacey (combined with signing Jennings or an equal at receiver) I'd be ****ing excited. I know, I'm dreaming.
Eiffert is the complete package, WTH some added benefits, been saying he's the best player for us offensively in the country..Patterson and Allen are very good players, but this guy can impact our Qb and offense more. Lacey would be a very nice pickup, his deadly spin move when he feels contact is a beautiful thing to watch, his jump cut to the perimeter is sick for a man that size, i've been all in on a new back since I saw some things in Reggie that made me lose hope..Love to use one of our thirds on one. I wonder what T'eo really weighs on the scale, I'm thinking more 240 than 250...
DJ... you said our stadium is incapable of having high energy b/c it sucks the life and excitement out of the fans. Its clear that the fans just need something to have excitement about. Sure, it may not be the loudest stadium in the league. And it absolutely has its issues. But the stadium isnt the reason for us not being competitive over the last decade. You dont need to have an "elite loud" stadium to be competitive. And in the list of things holding back this team from success... the stadium is well short of the top of the list.
The first one only works consistently if you have a talent advantage. In the NFL the talent spread between even the worst and best teams is too slim, therefore it's a QB league. That's one position where you do see a significant talent difference between the haves' and have nots.
Perfectly said. And even if everything DJ believes in were 100% true, there is very likely nothing to be done about it. so continuing to argue over something that isn't going to change any time soon is a waste of time. Give the fans of this team a winning organization and the stadium will be as loud and full of energy as possible.
Exactly!!! The OB was loud enough to impact the play on the field regularly. It was one of those intimidating places to play. I think the combination of the heat and the noise as well as the vertical stands made opponents notice. I used to work as an usher in both stadiums back when JRS (now Sunlife) was first built. I would notice the looks on the players when they looked up into the stands. There was often a measure of awe or intimidation. On the field at the OB it literally like a wave of humanity was about to crash over you at any moment. In the stands, I swear the stadium would seem to rock or sway. In the back of my mind I always wondered if it was structurally sound. LOL. JRS, even at it's loudest, has very little impact on the field. The sightlines are great and the big screen is awesome. The seats are certainly more comfortable, but there's a separation or disconnect between the fans and players. At best, you might say, "hey, this crowd is loud", but you never get that intimidation factor that the OB provided.
There are very few places like the Orange Bowl anymore. There is very little difference between Joe Robbie and the other, newer stadiums (outside of Seattle) And again, there is very little chance of a new stadium or significant renovations so this topic continues to be a waste of time to discuss, even if such a change were desirable. Put a winning product on the field and the place will be loud. Will it be as loud as the OB? No, but that doesn't matter.
Didn't Ross say that he's working on a plan for public funding of renovations? Can't wait to see how that unfolds.
He refused to comment on it yesterday at the PC. As a vocal opponent of public funding for stadiums, I suggest Roger Goodell put on a tape of last night's BCS National Championship and reconsider his statements that Sun Life is somehow not able to host a major sporting event. The field was lush and beautiful, the eather was great, the fans apparently had a great time, not only at the game but at the beach and the clubs and everything else So. Fla. has to offer. We can put on a Super Bowl just fine, and unless the NFL is willing to dip into their fund to pay for the renovations that only they believe are needed, take the Super Bowl and shove it. See how people love sitting in the snow next year, or schlep them back to Detroit or to Minnesota when that new stadium opens
Because Minnesota and Houston are just racking up the Lombardi's right? Go check the top run games and how they fared this year.
The top 4 made the playoffs, and two are still in it. 6 of the top 8 made the playoffs and 4 are still in it (2 had byes, 2 won). Very reasonable chance the Super Bowl winner will have at least been in the top half of the league in rushing (6 of 8 remaining teams).
That has nothing to do with the public. If Steven Ross wants the renovations to increase his own revenue, then fine. Pay for them yourself. Don't hold the public hostage with Super Bowl threats when the renovations are really about private profits. I mean, even the best stadiums get the Super Bowl what, every 5-7 years? and this is worth $350 million in public money up front? No thank you.
All this is great in theory, but in practice the public regularly gets fleeced into subsidizing the NFL's bottom line.
I never said either. I'm just baffled how people think this isn't going to happen when history shows it almost always happens.
Ya, but isnt the city benifiting from all that money that gets poured into the clubs/restaurants/hotels/everything else SoFlo has to offer? With a new stadium, we'd get the Super Bowl fairly often... as we used to get it what seemed like every 4-5 years or so (could be way wrong about that). But as you have stated, Miami is one of the best destinations for the Super Bowl, so it stands to reason that with a new stadium, we'd get it fairly often. And in which case the city would get the benifit of that money as well. ...not to metion all of the other things that would probably come to our stadium more often like concerts/etc... that also help generate money for the surrounding businesses.
The economic impact of new stadiums is wildly overstated, even big events like the Super Bowl. http://www.theatlantic.com/business...he-risky-economics-of-sports-stadiums/260900/ It's January in Miami. People are coming here anyway. Sure, for a day or two there might be more people than normal but the amount of money they actually spend in the city, not at the stadium is not as great as you think it is. Also, Sun Life is on every stadium concert tour. Paul MCCartney, U2, Rolling Stones and others have all played there within the last 5 years. A new stadium wouldn't make any difference. So again, $350 million up front, for the Super Bowl every 5 to 7 years. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
