RUMOR: Stephen Ross met with Scouts, Inc's Mike Giddings Jr. in last 72 hours

According to whom?

Just as the players say, it's a business. The NFL is pretty cutthroat. The Miami Dolphins haven't exactly been doing good business since, what, 1999?
Not saying Ireland's getting fired for Mike Giddings, but that's a pretty cushy view of things to take.

 

If Ross Mislead Ireland and that caused Ireland to stockpile picks and not blow his wad to save his job this year..then that is a cut throat and brilliant move by Ross.

 

Lol.

 

This, but wow that would be a dick move.

 

Actually I have mentioned this possibility in one of my threads.Either Ross has a buyer for the team that requires that the cap responsibility is manageable or there is a GM in mind who wants to have some tools and weapons to work with.BTW I think this story is a distraction designed to divert attention from the real objective.

However my gut feeling is that Ross is clueless and is just stumbling around in the dark.You dont have to be smart to be rich.Luck and being in the right place at the right time are bigger factors IMO.

 

I wonder if teams like the Patriots care about this rumor.

Clearly they would rely on Giddings for evaluations, and if his status were to change, they would lose that scouting machinery.

 

Sort of like Ross and Ireland meeting with Jim Harbaugh when Tony Sparano was still the head coach?

 

How do you think you get to the right place at the right time? ;-)

 

There's a difference between no safe jobs, and being misled. I don't think any of those situations are really applicable.

 

Not true at all. Luck is a factor, but it's far from the determining factor. You have to be smart and really skilled at something to amass the kind of net worth Ross has to his name. And many times, that rich person's skill is overlooked. For example, Bill Gates. He's not mega-rich because he knows technology; he's actually had some of the worst predictions and products in computer history. Bill Gates is mega-rich because he convinced the world that it needed his two cornerstone products, Windows and Office, in order to just participate in everyday life. He's a salesman, not a technology seer.

Likewise, Ross' talent may not be football the way technology isn't Gates', but that doesn't mean he isn't smart. Though honestly, Ross has made a series of good football decisions beginning with the pursuit of Jim Harbaugh that lead me to believe he's usually at least in the neighborhood of doing the correct and right thing.

 

I read it somewhere the other day and did some research and it generally holds true.

 

David Canter‏@davidcanter

@ariedoz Giddings isn't GM material & Jeff isn't going anywhere this year

NFL Agent David Canter isn't buying the theory.

 

1. He's qualified enough to be a scout, which is about all that Ireland has proven to be good at so far.

2. Since becoming owner, Ross has made nothing but a steady stream of "What the **** is going on in Miami" moves. It's his M.O.

3. Maybe. But also long overdue.

 

Thats the downside of a potential Giddings hiring for teams who use his services. The upside for them is they already have his scouting reports on many college players and thus why youre probably not hiring Mike Giddings as a GM but why he may have some info on whether Ireland is actually getting canned.

 

We're working from the basic assumption that Ross thinks Ireland was not good enough at his job, whatever standards Ireland was not particularly distinguished at aren't at all a reasonable baseline.

If your theory requires multiple people to act quite irrationally, it's probably not a very good theory.

 

If this is true, perhaps this Giddings guy is a possible Head or Lead Scout candidate, that Ross might consider hiring to oversee Pro Scouting and provide another voice of reason for the College Scouting Dept. Perhaps Ross is onto something about improving the team through Scouting and Giddings fits the bill. Just a theory on my part!!!

 

Maybe the Big Eared One got fed up. It happens.

 

Not multiple, just one. Stephen Ross.
And he's already proven capable of acting that way.

And for the record, I'm not advocating this guy become our GM, I don't know enough about him. I'm just saying it's not at all out of the question the Ross could be thinking of doing it.

 

Giddings would certainly have all the film and scouting reports of all NFL players and College prospects to make a smooth transition. If this is true about the GM position.

 

I wonder if this is based on Giddings' performance deteriorating. If so, makes no sense for us to want to hire him. That is, unless, his record has been compared to Ireland's and come out on top. If so, that speaks even worse for Jeff and might lend to the theory that his top choices were at least somewhat influenced by Giddings.

 

I guess you can put it all in the context of one person acting irrationally, but it's got to be pretty incredible to the point of being a very big leap.

He's proven capable of looking for a replacement to a guy he's got under contract, but he suffered massive public embarrassment over it too. It's one for him to be clearly dishonest, then act that way again, but it's another to suggest he didn't learn anything.

 

It has to be true. We all just read it on the internet.

 

reasonable idea. wonder if that's a pay increase or decrease though.

 

I truly believe Ross being a rookie himself, had no hint of a clue his plane would be tracked and/or anyone would even bother to look at where he was going. I cannot believe it was a meeting to relieve Ireland, right now, as GM but I do believe it was a meeting to possibly secure the certain services for the future.

 

Lol...Bcs game in nawlins, brutal national anthem...half empty stadium...good job NCAA.

 

Having been there I can make an educated opinion.As long as as I invested in a business I knew backwards and forwards I did very well .When I got into business that I did not know well and depended on others I did not do so well .Ross made his fortune in real estate.He is a babe in the woods when it comes to owning an NFL football team.

 

Perhaps.
Or it's possible he feels he did nothing wrong the first time, hence having no problem doing it again.

 

Regardless of this is true, he's pretty undeniably cognizant of the beating he took over it and how big of a public relations disaster it was. He was making excuses for it after it was pretty much totally a non-issue.

 

That he is. What's the point, though? Everyone is new to something the first time they do it.

 

Perhaps Ross fears Brian Gaine is close to leaving for a GM position and was trying to get Gidding's input on personnel guys who could be groomed for the assistant GM position and/or possible successor to Ireland in the future.

 

Ross doesn't seem to mind PR disasters tho.
He took a PR hit last year (rightfully or not) for not firing Ireland, yet he's doing the same thing this year.

 

Please be true

 

I agree.
I was just making the point.