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Rotoworld: Phins have every intention to pursue jennings, wallace ,bowe

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CrunchTime, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. MikeHoncho

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    Concentration...


    On South Beach
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    At the stadium against the Pats
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    He'll be alright.
     
  2. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    That's why he's gettin' injured so much lately. Doing too much heavy lifting.
     
  3. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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  4. Vengeful Odin

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    I'd like Jennings and then some form of TE/DE/Secondary in the draft. I really think Tannehill needs a solid pass catching TE that can consistently bail him out. I don't know if Fasano is that guy.
     
  5. Vengeful Odin

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    You'd hate Finley instantly. He makes Brandon Marshall look like he's using Stick Um.
     
  6. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Meyers or Bennett could be. Not great odds they make it to the market though.

    Keller or Cooke would be decent consolation prizes. Walker or Casey could be acorns.
     
  7. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    That would be a helluva trade, but honestly, I think Fitzgerald might be on the market. If not this year, then maybe 2014.

    But if the Cardinals are in rebuilding mode, why not trade a Fitzgerald now, get rid of that big contract, and get some very good compensation in return? I am not sure that there is any team in the NFL who would not want Fitzgerald on their team. Let's just hope it's not the Pats.
     
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  8. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    the next dimension
    Ideally I'd like to sign Greg Jennings, draft Stedman Bailey and Quinton Patton. I'd prefer to re-sign Hartline and trade Bess, but it's more likely Bess stays and Hartline goes.

    Ideal WR Core:
    Gregg Jennings
    Brian Hartline/Devone Bess
    Stedman Bailey
    Quinton Patton
    Rashard Matthews
     
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  9. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    i would be really pissed if we spend draft picks on a WR via trade , when there could 3 really good ones available, fitz is also turning 30 this year, just as jennings but he would cost no compensation
     
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  10. slickj101

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    Idk I just get the feeling that whoever winds up there will know they need to start over at QB so they'll prob want to keep Fitz around to help.

    I just can't see him moving unless someone gives them ridiculous compensation (like 2 1sts and a 2nd) or Fitz finally asks to be traded.
     
  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I would be really pissed if we didn't trade for Fitz

    Edit: If the compensation was "Marshall Faulk" ridiculous.
     
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  12. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I understand that, but maybe they move on? I mean, they did not draft Michael Floyd #13 overall last year for nothing. Are you going to continue to keep that guy on the bench while paying Fitzgerald that kind of money for maybe 1000 yards and 6-8 TDs? Or do you take a trade, get maybe the same production from that Michael Floyd?

    I guess my question is: Does Larry Fitzgerald warrant that type of pay with a new QB not named Peyton Manning (whom they tried to get last year)? Is Larry Fitzgerald that missing piece for the Cardinals team making a run for the Super Bowl?

    I can certainly see keeping Fitzgerald, but I can also see trading him.
     
  13. slickj101

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    I think they got Floyd to play opposite Fitz to recreate what they had w he and Boldin.

    Idk I don't count on AZ to ever make logical decisions.
     
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  14. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Bowe just isn't a good fit, IMO. He's a guy that needs to be targeted to be productive, and in Miami, they need guys who can be productive on limited targets. They don't need a guy who is going to be a target hog and demand that the ball be thrown his way all the time.
     
  15. Shamboubou

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    I want a guy that wants the freaking ball, that isn't scared of it when its coming to him. A guy that will go up and really fight to come down with the ball and fight to get yards after getting the ball. Thats just me though. Look at the WR greats....they want the damn ball!! Irving, Rice, Moss, TO, all of them want the ball.
     
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  16. MrClean

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    Wallace can also run comebacks all day long. With his deep speed, corners have to basically allow him comebacks, risk being burned or get safety help. He does more IMO to open up the things for the other receivers like Bess and Hartline. He is younger than Jennings by 3 years. He has been durable to my knowledge.

    The biggest concern with Jennings IMO, is you give him a big payday and he is either missing time with injuries or playing hurt and being less effective because of it. Hasn't he had concussion issues too? Those seem to the sort of injuries that once a player has one, they seem to reoccur more than occur with a player who's never had one. That could just be my perception though.
     
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  17. Pandarilla

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    Rice is readily known to have said that he played scared...
     
  18. Perfectville_USA

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    I love to see Wallace as our FA pick up, then add Robert Woods in the 2nd round. [He is just 20 year's old, great wok ethic and nice hands] Now throw in Hartline & Bess and we are now headed in the right direction.
     
  19. Pandarilla

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    I don't know any team that would pass on Fitz. Timing and assets are certainly in our favor. We should dare to dream this offseason...

    Jennings is probably a given.

    [video=youtube;HsY3n-ISDlw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsY3n-ISDlw[/video]
     
  20. normaldude

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    I'm hoping for Greg Jennings.
     
  21. GARDENHEAD

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    The reality in today's NFL is that if you want to land a FA WR, you're gonna over-pay.

    I have no faith Ireland is going to have the stones to get a top knotch FA WR. He likes acorns.
     
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  22. Fin D

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    Didn't he pay big for a big time WR and not an acorn in BMarsh? In fact, I'd say if there's one position Ireland has proven he's willing to spend big for, its WR.
     
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  23. ToddPhin

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    What team doesn't like finding them?
     
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  24. Gunner

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    My "wish" list for the offense would be:

    - Resign Hartline

    - Let Long walk

    - Draft either OT Lewan or Matthews in the 1st round

    - Sign Wallace or Jennings and Keller in free agency

    - Trade up from #42 into bottom of Round 1 and draft WR Allen

    - Draft WR Bailey with our other 2nd round pick
     
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  25. ckparrothead

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    I would remind people that Greg Jennings' "injury issues" this year were essentially a hernia.

    Does a hernia affect the hell out of you when it happens during the season and you're hard pressed to get enough rest to recover from it? Yes.

    Does a hernia affect your long term health and productivity as a pro? Hell. No.

    Or at least, that's my understanding.

    Cue the doctor in the room that pushes his glasses to his forehead and brings up the 0.02% chance that he re-injures the spot of the hernia multiple more times which in effect does hinder the rest of his career.
     
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  26. Boik14

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    Anytime you have three good players and you think one is going to take less money then the others you have to ask why? Why would Greg Jennings be seen as a player who will get less on the open market then Bowe or Wallace? And the answer is because Jennings is seen as a bigger injury risk and is seen as a player whose best days may be behind him. If the contract is right id rather pay him over say Hartline cause hes flat out better. But Wallace and Bowe are both better and do different things then Jennings. Jennings is a very smart player which works for him but hes not as explosive as Wallace or as good a redzone player as Bowe. Wallace is my first choice because his skillset is unique. Bowe is my second choice because Bess and Matthews are not going to win jump balls
     
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  27. Da 'Fins

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    Jennings fits our offense; knows it and would be helpful to other WR's including a young WR we could draft. And I think would come at a lower cost.

    Wallace is still quite young at 26 but I don't think he will be available, quite frankly. The thing about Wallace is he disappears in games (he's not a consistent 5-6 receptions a game player). He may become that but he's more of a deep threat rather than a consistent catch player. That has great value, of course.

    I think a vet WR and a WR drafted in the 1st 2 (maybe stretch to the 3rd) rounds would be great.

    I also think we need to look at a TE like Ertz.

    The problem the Dolphins have is that the TE/WR's that could be productive early (though there are always surprises, of course) are more late round 1 / very early round 2 types. I also don't think we can afford to give up the extra 2nd or 3rd.

    I'd prefer to move down and draft Ertz, and then draft a WR.
     
  28. Fin-Omenal

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    Mike Wallace may not run routes like Wes Welker, but he will attract the sort of attention deep that will open up the rest of the field for an eventual threat at TE, or a better route runner like Bess.

    He's a young fast playmaker and actually made some nice plays in the redzone for TD's.

    His price tag wont be cheap but if you can justify giving Karlos Dansby that ridiculous contract then acquiring Wallace could be no worse.
     
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  29. LBsFinest

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    not bad...but if we're gonna do this:

    then we might as well let Hartline walk and use that money in FA on a DE, OG, or CB
     
  30. cdz12250

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    Imagine if the tight end could go out for a damn pass once in a while because he doesn't have to help the right tackle.
     
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  31. ToddPhin

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    I thought I heard during the Steelers-Browns game that Pitt wanted to work on keeping Wallace in town.
     
  32. GARDENHEAD

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    That was Bill Parcells's move. See. Two can play at that game!
     
  33. Desides

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    What? This front office has handed out precisely one large contract to a WR, and that contract is no longer on the books. Ireland has spent far more at, for example, OL and LB, than at WR. Actually, IIRC, WR is the cheapest unit on the team right now.

    GARDENHEAD is correct. Ireland has tended to bring in acorns at WR.
     
  34. alen1

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    Ah ****. Jennings, I'll take. The others, no thanks.
     
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  35. Bpk

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    I wouldn't worry about it. If these receivers think the Dolphins internal discussions are that they 'aren't stars' they'll probably be insulted and not want to play for us anyways. lol.
     
  36. Jennings would be a great go to guy for a few years while we develop/draft his eventual replacement.


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  37. Fin D

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    WTF are you talking about? What game am I playing?
     
  38. ToddPhin

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    The game of reason?
     
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  39. Serpico Jones

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    Dustin Keller would be nice at TE. Pair him up with Jennings and draft Stedman Bailey and we're set.
     
  40. GARDENHEAD

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    I apologize. I was speaking generally about those who give Ireland a pass by blaming bad moves on Parcells v
     
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