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Our Offensive System and Playbook

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bpk, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Coming into the season Philbin and Sherman wanted to run the fastest-paced offense in the NFL. Like the Oregon blur of the NFL.

    Due to our players needing to learn to execute the Playbook properly Sherman said he scaled back the Playbook implementation and pace.

    What did you think of our Playbook this season and how do you expect it to look/change next season?
     
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  2. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think the thing with the hurry-up was that unless your offense is making plays or does multiple things well out of a single formation, you are shooting yourself in the foot. A very quick 3 and out sucks, and if you've got to stop and substitute your own players repeatedly it is quite a bit less effective.
     
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  3. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I expect our offense to more resemble....the offense you just stated...some hybrid of the Oregon Blurrrrrr......

    It just seems a natural fit to run that style of offense .... in South Florida. With Ryan Tannehill now adding is some of the read option...and...adding some play makers, the pieces are beginning to fall into place, IMO. The biggest piece was, can Ryan Tannehill run it in the NFL. IMO...there isnt a doubt.

    Now..I dont necessarily think we will start seeing Ryan put up...35-40 attempts every game....I think we will still be running this pace of an offense with a focus on balance pass and run...
     
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  4. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I'm not even sure I'm qualified to critique an offensive system only 1 yr removed from watching play action from under center on 3rd and 10's.

    **** me...I'm still smarting from Sparano residue.
     
  5. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I think the youth and lack of depth at WR forced Sherman to go with a slower approach in terms of introducing the entire playbook. Miller, Clay, and Egnew all seemed to struggle with picking it up. And with Hartline + Bess the only reliable WRs available it's pretty hard to go up tempo and create any type of advantage.

    Hopefully the offseason gives them a chance to up to speed and allows Sherman to put in the rest of the offense. More importantly, I hope Irish brings in some guys who will make the fully installed plays actually work.
     
  6. Stringer Bell

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    Not enough quality WRs to run a lot of no-huddle.
     
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  7. Bpk

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    My fave was the 3rd and 17 in the shotgun and no one in the backfield where henne still faked playaction. LOL.
     
  8. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I agree with some of the posts about the lack of WRs and other pass catchers who could execute the intended offense. That's why it was scaled back.

    Our offense not scoring lots of points has something to do with this scaling back. As we get the personnel who can run it, and as the existing personnel improve at running it, we'll have more 'pop' in our guns.
     
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  9. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    It had to start at some point.

    I'll say again, IMO, the number one goal for the season by the coaching staff was to establish Tannehill and the culture they want, instead of winning the SB being the number one goal.

    This, to me was about being painful now so it won't be going forward.
     
  10. CitizenSnips

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    Just need more playmakers. The packers offense isn't amazing because of 1 guy (well if your talking Rodgers maybe..) it's a the whole group. Jordy Nelson, James jones, Cobb, Jennings, etc. These guys all make plays.

    We have hartline and bess making plays but no one else. We have Moore breaking our collective hearts at least once a game. Mathews just started playing. Gaffney/legedu/Armstrong all busted.

    We need wrs. Like 2-3 new faces next year.
     
  11. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I think they still use that footage for instructional psy-op videos...
     
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  12. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Bingo. To add, multiple things out of one personnel grouping.

    With that said, I'm not convinced on Sherman.
     
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  13. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Please quit ur job and post here full time.
     
  14. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Sometimes less is more and other times more is less.
     
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  15. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Off topic, but how do you feel about Kevin Coyle?
     
  16. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I like him a lot. I think he understands very well what works and sticks to it, much like Mike Zimmer.

    Could be wrong however...
     
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  17. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I've gone too far...That can happen sometimes.
     
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  18. PhinsRock

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    Sherman is my first worry, theñ upgrading the WR by at least 2, then minimum 1 more TE before we can even think this team can run the suggested offense.
     
  19. Fin D

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    I truly believe that if you cloned either Bess or Hartline so we could have 3 competent but unspectacular WRs on any given play, Tannehill's rating would have been more around the 85 area and we'd be in the playoffs.

    I think if instead of a clone, we had a Greg Jennings type, we'd be kicking the league in their collective ***** before we took their collective lunch money.
     
  20. VanDolPhan

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    They couldn't do it because Jerry's lard rear would be puking on the field every week like he was in the preseason.
     
  21. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's got the highest snap count of anyone on the offense.
     
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  22. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    I'm not convinced on Philbin either.
     
  23. Bpk

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    Psy-Ops: It's A Mind Field
     
  24. Bpk

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    Well, I know part of why Alen isn't sold on Sherman (he has mentioned some TAMU failures, plus I know Alen knows his X's and O's). I tend to share a bit of doubt about Sherman too.

    I have liked Philbin though, so I'm wondering why you have reservations about him?
     
  25. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    I see some Cam Cameron in him.
     
  26. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Ah, I see it to...carbon based lifeforms.
     
  27. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I don't see an issue with Philbin. In his short time, he's shown more than all previous coaches combined. Plus, he doesn't have his head up his rear when it comes to situational football and game management.
     
  28. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    How has he shown more than all previous coaches combined? Don't be ridiculous. The only thing we know about Philbin is that he's old, lanky, ugly and boring. Jury is still out on his coaching abilities.
     
  29. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think your criteria for coaching and companionship are overlapping to an inappropriate degree.
     
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  30. Serpico Jones

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    You have to admit that the guy looks like a mummified corpse with a baseball cap.
     
  31. Perfectville_USA

    Perfectville_USA Mr Perfect

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    We need to upgrade our talent at a few positions, then Philbin can put in more of his offense. This offseason going to be key for us. With the right moves, we could have a much more talented team.
     
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  32. Bpk

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    This is true for every team. Every offseason.

    Problem is, we have the same guy who has run all the past offseasons that got us un-talented in the first place, so why would we gain ground on other teams now?
     
  33. alen1

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    I'm not being ridiculous, I'm being reasonable. It's not like I said he was better than Don Shula.
     
  34. Stringer Bell

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    So basically your beef is with his looks and personality?
     
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  35. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    No. I don't have a beef with him. I'm just saying we don't know what he is just yet. Sparano finished 7-9 twice and he's considered a professional clown. How has Philbin been any different?
     
  36. ATLFINFAN

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    With all the talk about adding 2 or 3 WR's this offseason, you might as well count Binns as one of them. I believe he is here to stay and he MIGHT have changed the priority of what we NEED the most, as seen by Philbin and Irish.


    just sayin
     
  37. Eop05

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    Fail Forward Fast?

    Ya know, I always thought that FFF could be a proper technique if done correctly. Cameron turned it into something of a joke because he was a horrible coach and led a 1-15 team after this FFF declaration, but the concept itself could work. And in this case, I think Philbin and staff are doing it correctly.

    I still sometimes LOL @ Ronnie Brown returning kickoffs in a preseason game. Cameron botched the concept completely

    I know Fail Forward Fast isn't completely comparable to this situation and what you're talking about. But it somewhat applies
     

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