Definitely resign him, he is a homerun hitter when used right is a dangerous player for us, why let that walk?
Worth resigning just for his work ethic and leadership alone. Throw in that Reggie is our best offensive player and if the price is right resigning Reggie is a no-brainer.
Because "right" in this case is a minority of plays and situations which do not represent a basis for a consistent run game, and is not enough to justify a large expenditure.
I wouldn't commit 4 years to Bush, unless it was an easily voidable contract after the first two years.
It's much more complicated and logistically expensive than that. How to you mitigate the damage Bush causes by his **** yardage runs? Another back? Switching the run scheme?
Sproles is two years older. Wasn't signed to be a starter. Just depends on what our plans for him would be. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 via Tapatalk 2
Yeah ceiling. The guy's been in the league seven years now, and that's the best he's ever done. What's your definition of ceiling? Something somebody suddenly does after he's been in the league a dozen years?
As OJ Simpson is turning over in his jail cell thinking about his 14 game season when he ran for 2003 yards
I would think the comparisons to Darren Sproles would have ceased after the last two years. I mean, two years ago, a lot of us were all goo goo over Sproles. Wanted him more than Bush. So now we put some facts out on the table just to remind you... They are two completely different RUNNING BACKS. Sproles is only a third down back. He has carried the ball 381 times the last SIX years. Reggie is more than just a third down back. He's carried the rock 959 times since he came into the league 7 years ago. He has more carries in the last two years with us (435) than Sproles in his entire career! Oh but those guys two years ago said "no way does Bush carry it over 200 times a season. His body couldn't hold up. He's fragile. Put some bubble wrap on him and he might be okay" they said. He's missed... wait for it ... wait for it... ONE... that's not big enough, nor nearly annoying enough... ONE game since he's been here. "But he dances behind the line of scrimmage too much. He takes too many negative yards." That's what game breaking running backs, ones that can take it the distance at any time, do. Does it drive the coaches crazy at times? Sure. But would you rather have a guy that runs 5.4 yards per carry but scores only 1 touchdown a year or a guy that averages 4.4 yards a carry, but scores 6 touchdowns a year. Last I checked, we're fairly bad at scoring touchdowns or those explosive plays. And this is just running the ball. Lets not forget that Reggie is a fairly accomplished receiver out of the backfield (although the coaches have done a piss poor job of getting him the ball this year as a receiver).
Who says he has to be the #1 feature of our run game? Dude sniffs out the end zone better than any of our current players. Sure if he asks an astronomical amount you let him walk. But that's our fault for letting it get there. His TDs and yardage and YPC rank up there with the best of them. Well right below them. Yes he isn't a Marshawn Lynch who has minimal runs over 20 yards. But we're not going to ask him to be. What if we use him as a Kevin Faulk 2003'ish with 150 carries and 50 receptions. Bush being way better than Faulk ever was.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-reggie-bush-return-to-miami-dolphins-in-2013 I really really like what I see from Miller. But Miller and Thomas? Miller and a draft pick? I would love to see Bush on the team with Miller carrying the heavy load.
His cost, more than likely? And the fact he has prattled on and on about being a feature back when he shouldn't be? Then you need to invest in or a find another runningback in addition to the cost you're paying Bush. He ain't exactly Ray Rice in the passing game, either. Just like in the run game, Bush has a couple of things he does quite well(screens, wheel routes), and the rest he isn't very good at. Reggie Bush CAN'T be your only option as a third down back.
Big deal. So we shouldn't keep Bush because he wasn't as productive as OJ? Back in his day most teams, not Miami but most, had one featured back that carried the brunt of the workload. Now, most teams, have a RBBC approach, which seems more sensible to me unless you have a guy like Peterson who is such a rare talent.
Firstly... if Lamar Miller is 218 pounds then Reggie Bush is 225. Put yourself in Reggie's cleats. The second overall pick. But never living up to that with the Saints. He started more games than any other back during his tenure there. But I think people get confused with regards to being a starter vs being a #1 back. It's different than any other position in football. He comes to Miami wanting to redeem himself. So what's his mindset? "I just want the team to win?" no... "I just want to help out in any way I can?" no... "I'm going to work my *** off to show the Saints what they gave away" yes... "Give me the ball and I will lead the league in rushing?" Why the hell not!? No.. give me the ball and I'll be marginally okay... sure that sounds better. Riiiight You sign him to a fair deal. You have Lamar Miller to split carries. (oh no... you're splitting carries with a guy making six figures rookie salary, that's not fair!?!!? Please!?) And you find yourself a sledge hammer of a back for short yardage, 4th quarter, grind the clock out situations. Someone to challenge Daniel Thomas.
Totally agree with all your reasoning for resigning Bush. I guess I cannot be surprised that some people foolishly oppose it. Heck, we've seen posts around here the past few months saying we should cut Dansby and/or Burnett too because they make too much money for their level of production. I am just damn glad most people here ain't the GM for the Dolphins.
If there is cap space and doesn't preclude other signings/resignings, why not. It's not our money! I wouldn't bat an eye if we let Jake Long go ... if he demands Top LT money.
Sounds completely logical to me. Miller can take the carries Thomas has been getting. Keep Thomas too because as a 3rd RB he isn't a bad choice to have on the depth chart.
So, because he doesn't do everything as well as Ray Rice, we shouldn't resign him? I do not agree with your opinion that the only things he is good at as a receiver is screens and wheel routes.
Miller and Bush heavily overlap. Do you not worry about having anyone who can pass protect or play short yardage?
I feel the same way about the RBBC approach that we should doing with Bush, Miller, and whoever else fits in. Bush also offers the added threat of being a passing threat that can at least partialy mask not having a 2nd viable TE. Give him some solid blocking up front or allow him to roll out for a pass and let him do the rest. He is an effective runner when put in the right postions and its silly to not want to resign him.
He sure as hell doesn't get open underneath on the bread and butter stuff that makes of most of what an elite receiving back does. Nor does he seem to have the ability to competently catch a flare route in stride, or do anything other than physically spread defenses out split into the slot. The guy has gotten less targets basically every year he's been in the league a reason. He isn't the guy that people think he is.
This.... Anything over 2 years honestly is pushing it IMO...Reggie Bush is one of those guys who is going to lose it quick.....he should have been dealt for a pick or 2 when he blew up after the 2nd game....... 1000 rushing isn't some great accomplishment, it is 63 yards a game roughly... And it seems they are going to play hard ball with him anyways...... which means he is gone.....probably to New England...
Did you see his first catch yesterday? The one he ALMOST scored a touchdown on. The one where he was covered by a safety. The one where he took a ROUTINE 5 yard out and got a first down?
I find it interesting that some people (not necessarily you, but I am not going to name names) don't want to create holes on a team that has some definite holes already by not resigning Jake Long and Brian Hartline.... yet are willing to pack Reggie Bush's bags for him and drive him to the airport.
It all depends on how much he wants and for how long. There's no way I touch a RB at age 30. So the length shouldn't be too long. And the position just isn't that valuable. So it doesn't make a ton of sense to heavily invest in it if you can put the money in a more important position. And on top of all of that, I'm not sure Reggie is anything more than an average player. The offensive line could be the thing that is holding him back. I'm not sure. But I know that his production does not warrant paying him like a top player at his position.
It doesn't mean you overspend the market though for a player... It remains to be seen what they do with Long and Hartline..... Personally I want Hartline back, he just cant be the number 1 WR.....however lets say that none of them sign, and Ireland wants to tag one....who gets it?? I would like to see Starks..... But yea I wanted Ireland to trade Bush and Long for that matter.....he did a wonderful job trading Davis....
How about his second touchdown yesterday? The over the shoulder catch in the endzone... I don't see Lamar Miller doing that, ever. Let alone 3/4's of the backs in this league.
The guy played in New Orleans, and video existed then. He is an elite pass receiving back when properly used. His receiving talent is the last thing I would use as an excuse to let him go.
He never gets open underneath? Uh, yeah, ok, if you say so. Sounds to me like someone making up excuses to support their notion we shouldn't bring back Bush.
