1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Factually speaking, we still have a shot at the playoffs.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Paul 13, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. Jt0323

    Jt0323 Fins Up! Luxury Box

    12,967
    7,293
    113
    Dec 7, 2007
    Las Vegas
  2. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

    23,388
    16,296
    113
    Nov 22, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Jets need to lose a game in there as well.

    If your scenario played out like that, here is how it would be determined.

    The Jets would hold the tiebreaker over the Dolphins based on common games (Division Record, TIED. Conference Record, TIED) thus eliminating the Dolphins.

    The Steelers would hold the tiebreaker over the Bengals based on head-to-head match ups (2-0 for the season) thus eliminating the Bengals.

    The Steelers would then hold the tiebreaker over the Jets based on a head-to-head match up and eliminate the Jets.

    I think that's how it is determined.

    If the Jets lose one of their games with your other games playing out the same way... The Steelers would have eliminated the Bengals based on head-to-head match-ups. The Steelers would have a worse conference record than us and it would bring us into the playoff picture.

    For wild card teams where there is a 3 way tie or more, they take the teams in the same division and put the best team via tiebreakers into the "finals" so to speak. It doesn't appear to be as simple as "who has the better conference record" for 3 way ties.
     
    Paul 13 and maynard like this.
  3. Jt0323

    Jt0323 Fins Up! Luxury Box

    12,967
    7,293
    113
    Dec 7, 2007
    Las Vegas
    Now this is the least important part of the scenario but if somehow Ravens win out, it could be the best thing for us if we do make the playoffs, because we would play the Ravens in round 1, rather then the patriots.
     
  4. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

    2,768
    1,081
    0
    Nov 26, 2007
    Commack, NY
    I didn't read whole thread, but basically its:

    Jets lose one more game, Buff or SD (very likely)
    Bengals lose to Pitt and Baltimore (not completely out of the question)
    Pitt beat Bengals but lose to Cleveland in Pitt (very unlikely)
    We win out last two games, Buffalo then @ NE (very unlikely)
     
  5. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

    2,228
    1,004
    113
    Jan 4, 2008
    Indianapolis
    There is a chance the Pats rest their starters. The real part of the equation is the Browns beating Pitt. Its still very unlikely, those missed field goals earlier this year are now really coming back to haunt us.
     
  6. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

    2,768
    1,081
    0
    Nov 26, 2007
    Commack, NY
    Hey but just take it one week at a time... This weekend root for our win, Pitt beating Cincy, and Jets losing (like I root for every other week anyway).

    It will at least make the last week of the season somewhat more exciting with the minute possibility.
     
    Paul 13 likes this.
  7. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    I think their running back kicked the ball out of Sanchez slippery fingers to end the game... it was like he said, "You're not throwing another interception on my watch"
     
    gandalfin and Rocky Raccoon like this.
  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    we had one game where we played like ****... it happened to be to the Titans who were coming off their own worst performance of the season.
     
  9. Fineas

    Fineas Club Member Luxury Box

    18,217
    23,523
    113
    Jan 5, 2008
    I don't see the Browns beating Pitt as so unlikely. Cleveland is 3-1 in their last 4. Pitt is 1-4 in their last 5, including a loss to Cleveland. Pitt is nto that much better than the Browns. I wouldn't bet on it, but I'd say Cleveland has somewhere around a 35-40% chance of winning that game.
     
  10. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

    12,587
    1,574
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    Washington DC
    Wouldn't that make it 3 playoff trips in a row we played the Ravens in round 1? Just checked, it would. Sheesh. Can you imagine potentially losing to them 3 times in round 1?
     
  11. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

    85,620
    51,681
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    I put the Jets losing one of their remaining games as LESS likely to happen than the Browns beating the Steelers and the Phins beating the Pats. Chargers at home... SD is just putrid. And then their game vs the Bills (although it's in Buffalo). It would be fun to take this into the final game of the season... just for ****s and giggles.
     
  12. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

    3,163
    2,325
    113
    Sep 13, 2011
    It's not going to happen for us but atleast we are still in the hunt (barely) at seasons end. It tells me that we are still....the same mediocre team we have always been. YAY. One can dream though... I mean imagine beating New England in Foxboro and the Browns winning in Pittsburgh to end the year and us getting in the playoffs. It would be a great capper to end the year. I'm sure we would be served up as a sacraficial lamb to whomever we played but hey...Atleast we made the big dance.
     
  13. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Why do we need to Jets to lose?

    From how it looks to me...they are officially out..
     
  14. Ophinerated

    Ophinerated Preposterous!

    8,678
    803
    113
    Apr 1, 2008
    Correct, which would send the Steelers to the playoffs instead of us. The Jets are out of the playoffs (as far as I can see, if they loose one more game, period) but them losing to SD or BUF determines if we have a chance to get in. The best scenario is that they drop their final two games, just for the *snicker* factor.

    I believe the scenario was this: The jests lose to TEN and SD OR they lose to BUF. So far one of the first is done. So it they beat SD, they would HAVE to lose to BUF in order for us to beat out PIT if PIT beats CIN and CLE beats PIT. Also CIN has to lose out to both PIT and BAL. If all that plays out and BAL wins out we would face them. If BAL loses to NYG and the rest still plays out, then we would face NE two weeks in a row in NE.
     
    Aqua4Ever04 likes this.
  15. Ophinerated

    Ophinerated Preposterous!

    8,678
    803
    113
    Apr 1, 2008
    That would be funny. However, of all the teams in the AFCE, we have been the biggest thorn in NE's side, albeit a small thorn. I think, regardless of what happens week 16, Belichick throws the house and appliances at us. Belichick loves our cast offs and seems to regal himself in pushing the rules versus us to the limits(snow plow, *cough*), etc.
     
  16. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

    23,388
    16,296
    113
    Nov 22, 2007
    Denver, CO
    I explained the same tiebreakers literally 10 posts above. WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LISTEN TO ME?! :shifty:
     
    Aqua4Ever04 likes this.
  17. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

    2,593
    2,335
    113
    Jan 4, 2009
    Savannah, GA
    How Miami is still alive in the playoffs

    Did the playoff predictor on ESPN yesterday and here is what has to happen for Miami to get in:

    This week:
    Miami beats Buffalo
    Steelers beat Bengals
    Giants beat Ravens

    Next week:
    Miami beats Patriots
    Ravens beat Bengals
    Browns beat Steelers

    And for some reason, even though the Jets are eliminated, we need them to lose one of their last 2 games.

    All of that combined puts Miami into the playoffs as the #6 seed with an 8-8 record.

    Are we believers? Do you believe in miracles? :wink2:
     
  18. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Even if we somehow went into NE and won, which is highly unlikely given that NE will probably still be fighting for the #2 seed, it is even more unlikely that Cleveland will walk into Pittsburgh and win.

    Regardless, it is a shame that we didn't win the Jets or cardinals games. If we had we'd really have a good shot.

    Oh well.
     
  19. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

    38,949
    20,033
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    [​IMG]
     
    Sleepy and eltos_lightfoot like this.
  20. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

    2,593
    2,335
    113
    Jan 4, 2009
    Savannah, GA
    Cards, Jets, and Colts...all of those games we should have won. Very easily could have been 9-5 right now. Win 2 of those 3 and we are in the drivers seat right now, especially if it was the Colts game.
     
    Sleepy likes this.
  21. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Can't look at it that way. We easily could have lost to STL, Seattle, Cincy.

    Most games in the NFL are close and some are invariably going to go against you.

    The real culprits are Tennesse and Buffalo. Two games against teams we are better than that we simply were not prepared for and didn't show up.
     
    Sleepy likes this.
  22. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    14,074
    11,142
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Chicago, IL
    The Ravens & Giants mean absolutely little to us. We need the Steelers to win. We need the Chargers to win. That's it. Oh, and we need to win.
     
  23. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

    10,823
    2,214
    113
    Nov 1, 2009
    Those are the two reason I lost hope for the season.

    Browns beating Pitts is possible but very very doubtful.
     
  24. Fineas

    Fineas Club Member Luxury Box

    18,217
    23,523
    113
    Jan 5, 2008
    The Browns have won 3 of their last 4 and 5 of their last 9. The Steelers have lost 4 of their last 5 and are also 5-4 in their last 9. It's really not all that unlikely that the Browns beat the Steelers.
     
  25. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Yeah, but you'd have to have the Steelers going into Cincy and winning and then coming home, only needing to win to get in, and losing to the Browns?

    I would not bet on that even for a dollar.
     
  26. Fineas

    Fineas Club Member Luxury Box

    18,217
    23,523
    113
    Jan 5, 2008
    They're just football games. The Steelers are certainly capable of beating Cincy (they've done it 5 times in a row and once already this year) and the Browns are certainly capable of beating the Steelers (they did it already this year).
     
    Sleepy likes this.
  27. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

    14,291
    5,841
    0
    Jan 27, 2010
    Of course you can look at it that way. I agree that close games are the norm but its pretty easy to look at our schedule and say we shoulda beat NY, AZ and probably Indy, we shoulda lost to the Rams. Cincy and Seattle were close games but I see no reason to say we should have lost. Add it up and we should be 7-7 or maybe 8-6. Not that making the playoffs this year matters to me long term, it doesn't. We'd get our *** kicked in the first round no matter who we played and lose valuable ground in the draft order. But at least we wouldn't have to hear all of the moronic, we suck-fire Irish trash that is polluting an otherwise good forum.
     
  28. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Yeah, Cleveland beat them when they started Charlie Batch and turned the ball over 7 times. And it was still a one score game.

    Sure, anything is possible, but it's pretty unlikely. Not to mention we'd have to beat NE as well which I think is unlikely.
     
  29. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

    14,291
    5,841
    0
    Jan 27, 2010
    How much would you bet that they'd beat Baltimore on the road w/ Batch at QB and then come home and get blown out by San Diego w/ Roethlisberger back at QB?
     
  30. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Even if we snuck intot he playoffs I would still be for dismissing Ireland. The fact that the 6th seed might go to an 8-8 team doesn't mean that Ireland has done a good job as GM.

    And I also don;t know how you say we couldn't have lost to seattle. We were gifted a TD on the roughing the passer penalty that negated Tanny's end zone INT. If that INT holds up it's a near certainty we lose the game.
     
  31. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    I wouldn't have expected that either. But we're talking about good bets and bad bets.

    If you're asking me to bet against the Steelers with Ben, at home, in a win and in situation against Cleveland, I'm just never going to do it
     
  32. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

    14,291
    5,841
    0
    Jan 27, 2010
    LOL no **** its unlikely. But thats not the point.

    With two games left we've got an outside chance. Last season we were eliminated by mid October.
     
    Fin D likes this.
  33. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

    14,291
    5,841
    0
    Jan 27, 2010
    If we snuck into the playoffs who would you give credit to then? The coaching staff?
     
  34. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    I suppose, but how much credit is deserved for sneaking into the playoffs at 8-8, when you had to rely on other teams completely tanking?

    If we somehow went into NE and beat them full strength with them playing hard, then yeah, I'd credit the coaching staff.

    But if we get in beating Henne, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Ryan Mallett, while having the steelers somehow lose to Cleveland, it'll be fun to be in the playoffs, but not all that impressive.
     
  35. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    And we were repeatedly screwed by the refs in the Buffalo game. Their lone TD from the punt return shouldn't have happened because of a flagrant block in the back which would could have been the difference in that game. Or the numerous bogus PI calls that put them into various FG positions.
     
  36. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Well, what can I tell you?

    It's not worth whining about now and it doesn't make any difference anyway. Our offense was completely putrid against one of the worst defenses in the league that night. We played horrible. If we had been even competent on offense we probably would have won.

    But we weren't. And we were throwing to the likes of Marlon Moore and Rishard Matthews in critical situations. That's a big part of the problem.
     
  37. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

    14,291
    5,841
    0
    Jan 27, 2010
    I think a lot of credit is due considering you want the GM fired, I presume for not stocking the team with enough talent. If the team lacks talent and is still Top 6 in a 16 team conference then kudos have to go somewhere don't they?

    I dunno. Back in-Sneak in, whatever, I think that if you'd told people we'd be in the playoffs at all last August they'd have checked your pockets for narcotics.

    Having said that, whether youre impressed or not, it's hard to say that that the overall trajectory of the team isn't pointed in the right direction. Rookie HC, rookie DC, rookie QB, young team, lots of cap space, lots of draft picks.

    Is this the time to bring in a new GM? You'd basically be blowing up the current blueprint and starting from scratch. And if you're not going to blow up the blueprint then why change architects in the first place?
     
  38. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

    14,291
    5,841
    0
    Jan 27, 2010
    How can you say we were bailed out by the refs vs Seattle but that the bad calls that went against us (and there were soooo many this year) aren't worth whining about. That's kind of a double standard.
     
    Sleepy and Fin D like this.
  39. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    Not too mention, I'm pretty sure Wilson's first TD of the Seattle game should have been called back because Odrick (I think it was him) was raped soo bad, the lineman that did it, needs to register as a sex offender.
     
  40. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    The question for me is whether you've seen enoughg ood out of the current GM to allow him to make use of those tools.

    I have not, so regardless of whether he set the thing up is unimportant to my evaluation.
     

Share This Page