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With Parcells here does Cam stay?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by srdnaty, Dec 19, 2007.

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With Parcells here does Cam stay?

Poll closed Dec 21, 2007.
  1. Yes

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    51.2%
  2. No

    41 vote(s)
    48.8%
  1. srdnaty

    srdnaty New Member

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    With Parcells here does Cam stay

    Note: this is not a hope not, this is what you think happens.
     
  2. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    no.

    way.
     
  3. miami234ever

    miami234ever New Member

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    Yes, but no as head coach. Maybe he'll be demoted to OC.
     
  4. phinsoldia

    phinsoldia Season Ticket Holder

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    i doubt he comes back as HC- honestly i hope he does because i feel he has direction that this Offense can go in while keeping the defense stable...note that depth wise this year was horrible but i would like to see who he gets in FA and in the draft offensivly to build an offense that can average 25 ppg,

    i know he is not the long term answer but both our coach and GM have a vision for the offense i would love to see them get at least one more year to add some quality offensive guys and after that who cares who the coach is they will have pretty good offense to go on
     
  5. FINintheMOON

    FINintheMOON Moderator Luxury Box

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    First of all, if Billy DOES come here, I think that the current coaching staff stays with the exceptions of CAM's desicions... If anyone know about not changing things, it's Billy... He is not coming into this with a blind eye and I hope that he appoaches it with an open mind...

    I am not really comfortable with the thought that he may be hired and I am only hoping that he sees things as they are...
     
  6. Miamifins854

    Miamifins854 Finkle is Einhorn

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    i would be fine if he was ocoordinator, just let bill bring in some good talent.
    hes a scary judge of talent.
     
  7. Jagfish

    Jagfish Season Ticket Holder

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    League rules prevent Cam being demoted. He'll either HC or gone. Ethan Skolnik reported that Bill likes Cam for whatever that's worth, he also like horse racing, maybe he'll name a horse HC.
     
  8. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    I think that Cam deserves a 2nd shot. He was dealt a bad hand for his first year, with the cupboard being bare of talent and injuries to key starters and Dom Capers having a less than stellar year as DC, and Keith Armstraong's special teams coverage being abominable.

    Bill doesn't seem like the guy to give too many second chances, and what better way to make the 'phins his team than by installing his choice at HC?

    My prediction - Cam gets let go for the wrong reasons.
     
  9. Fins08:NewHope

    Fins08:NewHope New Member

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    I think Cam gets let go. Here's why, it seems clear that Jason Taylor is not a big fan of Cam's at least thats what we have been led to believe. Having said that, I'm sure he has a following of core vets that feel the same, including Zach Thomas. Parcells will get the vibe of this team and what they think, and POOF...Cam is gone. Sorry Cam, I hear Atlanta has a job opening....lol.
     
  10. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    His chances of staying are probably better now that Parcells is coming.
     
  11. Carabinieri44

    Carabinieri44 New Member

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    considering Dallas has a good offense, and Jason Garrett is their OC, id love to bring him as our OC or heck...even HC.

    u cant say Cam sucks when he was OC for San Diego, a team that went 14-2. like one guy wrote, league rules prevent him from being demoted. otherwise id like to have him as OC. somehow tho, itd be nice to bring in Jason Garrett
     
  12. PMZQ

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    Again, it has to be said.....THERE ARE NFL RULES THAT DON'T ALLOW A HC TO BE DEMOTED TO A POSITION COACH ON THE SAME TEAM IN THE NFL. A position coach CAN be demoted as Mularky was last season, but Head Coaches absolutly cannot be demoted on the same team.
     
  13. Dominizzo

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    Parcellls is getting his own crew!!!!!!!!
     
  14. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Bill will clean house...........

    I'll guess Kirk Ferentz will be named HC...he a Bill Parcells guy
    I'm not sure Wanye would okay Maurice Carthon (another coordinator wanting to be HC)
     
  15. brent

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    Its Tuna Call all of the way.....Whether CAM goes or Matt Ryan is selected as the the Franchise........no one else's
     
  16. finfan01

    finfan01 U-C-F Knights!

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    yes, Cam will stay even if Parcells comes to the Fins. A seasoned vet like Parcells will see that the amount of injuries to the team this year are astronomical and give Cam another chance. We'll see.:up:
     
  17. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    Here is what Parcells should do:

    Bring in June Jones of Hawaii as head coach. The Tuna can then trade down with Dallas, bring in extra picks and maybe a couple Cowboy players. Then draft Colt Brennan to be our new QB. Our offense becomes 100% better right away.....then we balance out our draft with defense/offense and are right back in the thick of things in the AFC.

    :thumbup:
     
  18. calfinfan

    calfinfan New Member

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    Word is that Tuna was recommending that Hezuinga keep Cam before. I don't see that changing. However, Bill will have say in the assistants Cam has. Bill also likes the 3-4 defense, that's good for us. It took Tuna 3 years to rebuild the Cowboys, he'll give Cam the same chance.
     
  19. shouright

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    Or POOF, Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas are gone.
     
  20. shouright

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    I think Cam stays, and I think it's part of the reason Huizenga is going after Parcells in the first place: from his discussions with Parcells he knows he'll keep Cam.

    Remember, Wayne has been walked out on before. I don't see him doing the same thing to a coach he just hired and dealt a lousy opening hand to. Cam stays IMO.
     
  21. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?


    I see that as more likely... Get rid of a veteran who has no place in thee 'Phins of the future, or get rid of a coach because a veteran that has no place on the 'Phins of the future doesn't like him?

    Not a hard decision.

    Either way, JT will not have a say on whether Cam stays or goes.

    I, personally think he stays as HC, but he has to bring in an OC...
     
  22. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    I also doubt JT will be here next here...I see him getting traded for a 2nd rounder. I think Zach will still be here for another year.
     
  23. Awsi Dooger

    Awsi Dooger New Member

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    I think that's logical. Fans would have demanded change after a disastrous season like this, and Parcells at the top is enough of a change.

    Here's one thing I appreciate about Parcells; no nonsense that we're better than our record. There have been threads here implying that injuries have impacted our performance and our record. That's exactly the type of thing Parcells rejects, and rightfully so. He was the originator of, "You are what you are."
     
  24. Jagfish

    Jagfish Season Ticket Holder

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    Parcells actually likes having vets. He may want to keep JT and ZT around.
     
  25. Brown42000

    Brown42000 Chillin

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    Yeah, now that Parcells is here I doubt JT or ZT are traded.
     
  26. CA Dolfan

    CA Dolfan New Member

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    i think cams gone. time to clean house.
     
  27. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    im not sure i want cam to stay yet but i think maybe bill will give him one more year but he has to really push us close to a .500 record if not one to keep his job.
     
  28. His'nBeatYour'n

    His'nBeatYour'n Glass Ceiling Repairman

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    Before Parcells, I believe there was a 99% chance of Cam getting fired.

    But, against the logic that Huizenga's pursuit of Parcells is a clear sign of dramatic changes to come, I think that the "stability" that Parcells would bring may just buy Cam one more year. And unless Cam brings a dramatic turnaround in 2008, he is just a place holder for a "Parcells guy".
     
  29. dabeastdabone

    dabeastdabone New Member

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    parcells is long known for keeping and utilizing vets, i doubt he is the kind of guy who will clean out guys like zack and jt.
     
  30. Finominal

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    I think there is a big sentiment that a guy that only wins one game can’t be retained (Drew Rosenhaus) But you look at so many first season coaches like Jimmy, etc and it’s really a typical thing. Teams get new coaches when they have been bad for a few years, so any new coach is stepping into rebuilding. I can see some tweaking of our coaching staff (Keith Armstrong, Dom Capers) and some sort of perceived notion that we have super talent in the office now that Parcels is in the house. Maybe done to appease season ticket sales for next year, assure the value of the franchise for the pending sale. Funny how Wayne was really upset about the leak of the sale, because obviously Parcels said no thanks when there was sale talk. Then Wayne nixes the sale talk and the Tuna is back on board. There is much going on here, and it isn’t all about what’s happening on the field, me thinks.
     
  31. JerryC

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    us walking out on cam after one bad year with crap that was left to him from the former quitters, would be like saban walking out on us. I think Parcells comes in, talks to all, evaluates the playbook, the players, Cam, the rest of the coaches, the direction the team is going in and everything about the organization, AND THEN make a decision(s).
    No one worth their salt comes in and cans everyone JUST to bring in their own favorite guys. You evaluate first and see how the team is and where it is at and going and make decisions based on careful evaluation of all that. If he feels another HC is more suited for the team or better than Cam then cam goes. If not then cam stays. He may need another year to see how Cam is as a HC, to see what direction they started in, if it is the right direction. It is called making experienced and informed decisions.

    All this speculation that Wild Bill comes in and starts shooting people and replacing them just with his own, JUST BECAUSE they are his favorites is just that, speculation. If Bill did it that way then he is not the guy we thought he was or the guy we need.
    like another said, Cam was a heck of a goo OC at SD. He was handed plain Sh++ when he came to miami and it takes time to dig out of that. Even Parcells would not touch the HC of this team last year. That is prob why he wants FO and not HC, The wasteland that Nicky left, he would rather help straighten out from a higher position where he has more pull than on the field dealing with the desolation boulevard that is the team now.

    But if he jumps in and fires Cam, just because he likes someone better, or a favorite then Wild Bill is NOT who we want...........
     
  32. #1DoLfAnOKesh

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    i dont think so...i think the tuna will want his own imprint on the team
     

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