Most of the predictions I saw in the preseason pegged us at 4-6 wins. We already have 4. What did you REALLY expect with a rookie QB (who I think is the real deal), no playmakers, a lame duck GM and a rookie HC??? Superbowl??? Tannehill needs at least ONE playmaker, ONE guy who knows how to block and ONE guy who can run the ball. Get those pieces in place and he will be a probowler, unless the pro bowl goes away. Anyhow, that's my .02!
If your team plays hard,disciplined and physical, and you lose, ok, you can see more clearly where the holes are..when your team poops all over the field with incompetence and no spirit, then there are a lot more questions.
Everyone is so mad I think because of the decent start this team had, and how weak our division, and the AFC in general is perceived to be this year, people bought into the hype that we were a playoff team. We had a shot based on our record at the time, and the team has come out flat the last two games, and to be quite honest embarassed themselves. That, combined with what I suspect is most people now realizing and beginning to see the lack of talent we have at key positions on this roster, still, after 5 years of our roster builder and talent evaluater being here.
Generally speaking, people are mad for plenty of reasons. Most of them personal, some football-related and most likely due to unfounded expectations.
Every week you see a few more posters here coming around to this. Ross can't be blind, if we fans see doesn't he ?
IMO, what's heightening people's anger is the quick, steep regression this team has appeared to make. People might be a bit more even keel if we had lost to a NE and Seattle or SF. But losing to and looking offensively inept against two teams (Tennessee and Buffalo) who have shown they'd have a hard time stopping Rutgers is like getting kicked in the nuts just for good measure.
Agreed. This was the stretch of our schedule where most of us thought we'd rack up some wins against the Titans, and Bills, and probably the Colts too the way things started off for us.
Anybody that thinks an NFL team's performance during the course of a season has some type of linear trajectory is not paying attention to how the NFL works. Teams regularly have stretches where they overperform or underperform. Playing a division game on the road on a Thursday night is also a situation thats as unfavorable as any in this league.
I think if you really look at it few of us are actually "mad". We all come to this board to vent, debate, commiserate, and discuss Dolphin football. Sometimes what we type here paints a picture of angry rabid fans who are unable to cope with life. About 5 minutes into the 2nd half I resigned myself to the fact Miami was going to lose. I didn't lose any sleep. Today I'm perfectly happy. Bummed Miami lost but it doesn't affect my day.
12 days ago Miami was 4-3, on a 3 game winning streak, playing disciplined team ball and would have qualified as a wildcard had the season been over....3 losses later with lackluster play by multiple players just human nature to be frustrated.
I was one of those who predicted that the Dolphins would only have 4-6 wins this season. I predicted this based on the overall lack of talent on the roster. Your belief that all Tannehill needs is ONE guy who knows how to block is rather absurd. What he needs is SEVERAL offensive linemen that know how to block. What makes me upset isn't the fact it looks like I am going to be right about the number of wins this team will have this year. What upsets me is the thought that Ireland may still be around after this season to screw up the 2013 draft. If Ireland is fired, I will be happy to accept that this team is in another rebuilding mode and the next GM may take a couple of years to get the players he wants to build this team for the future. I just think keeping Ireland will cause this team to remain mediocre and it will only prolong the rebuilding process for the new GM when he is finally hired in a few years.
The problem is that the Dolphins over the last three and a half years have under performed far more than than they have over performed. Hence their 24-34 over this time period. Perhaps that is the reason so many fans show up at the game dressed as empty seats.
Underperformed relative to what???? I'd say 24-34 is right around where one would expect the team's record to be given who has been QB'ing it.
When I was a teen and then into my early 20's I would get really p!ssed off and angry, but then someone came into my life and that was followed by two more little people a few years later. I found out what was really important to get happy, angry, excited and hurt about, and it wasn't anything to do with sports.
Only really upset because for the first time in a long while, we were playing smart football and getting better each week. Now, We have taken a huge leap back. It's not fair to tease fans of a struggling franchise with success only to smash it into a million pieces. Had these games been closely fought and well played, it would not be this bad. These players have shown that they can be at least competent. The last two weeks they have played as if they have never played a football game in their lives.
Most I would say are upset because they want something better than what has been put out on the field for the past to many years.We know the team is not ready to take the next step and it is frustating waiting another year. I will always be a Phin fan but it comes with realization that we need more time and players. And yes ,I too again drank the Kool-Aid and began to imagine this year coulda,shouda,woulda been different but the fact is the Dolpins are not a good football team(still). Next year I will return for more Kool-Aid I am imagine,I think I am addicted.
Yep. You hit the nail on the head for me. I was Ok with the Colts game because they turned out better than we all thought they would be. The Tennesee game was a huge dissapointment but I treated it like a bad dream. I thought for sure we would snap back into it and beat the Bills, but no! Most of us saw these 3 games as W's, what happened was a slap in the face!
Do you guys expect a close game next week? For the most part I think my 'Hawks look good but we've struggled on the road.
Right, but there were certainly enough people on this board who had the perception that this team had improved to the point where disasters like these would at least be mitigated to some degree. It's one thing to get upset at home by Tennessee; it's quite another to score 3 points against a team that had given up 34, 38, 41, 38, 30, 23, 34, 19 and 51 points. And Buffalo, despite it being a tougher assignment, wasn't much better.
If your team plays hard, disciplined and physical, you are likely not going to be 4-6 - you are going to be 6-4 or better. You are going to be a winning team (.500 at worst if you have a poor QB). This team is what it is. If it were capable of playing that way - it would be a better team with a better record. That's what real NFL talent is. I'm not really angry - this is what I expected them to be before the season began. And, its clear they have weaknesses along the OL and at WR on offense (as well as some bad running but that is also, in part, a function of bad blocking).
Hypocrite. Nice to see you'd give a new GM his due time to acquire the players "he wants", yet you take the exact opposite approach with Ireland now that the team is finally his and with it still being less than a season removed from the mess we affectionately call Tony Sparano. So, correct me if I'm wrong, you've basically already deemed our entire 2012 draft class and Coach Philbin a failure after just 10 games?
Drafts from 09-11 (he ran those drafts) look pathetic in retrospect. How many seasons does the have to **** up before we all realize this? Sure, he's found a few nuts in the later rounds. Guys like Jimmy Wilson for example. Decent dime back. Seriously doubt he evolves into a #1 or #2. And in the end, if you don't have a #1 or #2 CB, who gives a **** if you found a good #3 or #4 in round 7?
When your Draft picks havnt been that good combined with non existent Free Agent contributions then that's a recipe for a poor team.
I was no fan of Henne, but it was Ireland who did nothing to improve the QB situation until he drafted Tannehill this year. Of course he probably only drafted a QB in the first round because he was under orders from Ross to do so. Otherwise the Dolphins would probably have drafted another OL with the eight pick in the draft. I agree that 24-34 is about right for this team over the past three and a half years. I just don't think it is all because of the QB situation. I think they have this record because they just don't have a lot of talent throughout the roster. That, I blame entirely on Ireland.
It is my opinion, so I can be as hypocritical as I want to be. Besides, I believe Ireland has been the GM for five years and this team has gotten worse every year since they made the playoffs in 2008. As far as the 2012 draft goes, I think Martin will be a journeyman offensive lineman in the NFL in the years ahead. I don't ever see him being a top tier offensive lineman. I think Egnew will be out of the league or playing somewhere else very soon. I thought Miller was a great pick in the later rounds. The fact he can't get on the field, while the Dolphins have had no success in the running game recently is a major concern, in my opinion. I haven't given up on him, but I still think the Dolphins need to upgrade their RB position after this season. Vernon has been a decent special teams player and has made a few plays on defense. I watched him for three years at UM and I never saw him as a consistent player on defense. I don't think he will be a pass rusher in the NFL and I think the Dolphins need a definite upgrade at the DE position opposite Wake. Vernon is not this upgrade. Kaddu is at the bottom of the 53 man roster and I don't see him being much of a factor going forward. Cunningham was cut and Matthews played okay in preseason, but I don't see him as anymore than a 4th or 5th WR on the Dolphins in the future. That is if he is even on the roster next year when hopefully WR's will be added to the roster in an attempt to upgrade this position. Randall seems to be a decent backup, but I don't see him ever becoming a defensive force in the NFL. He is what he is, a 7th or 8th defensive lineman who will be a backup during his NFL career, which will probably be relatively short. This draft was all about Tannehill and until he actually has talent around him on offense, we have no way of judging if he will be an effective NFL QB or not. You believe Ireland is the right man to rebuild this team. I don't. I think the team needs a GM who actually knows how to build a winning organization. You want to take the view that Ireland had nothing to do with the drafts and free agents signings while Parcells was here. That is your right. I just don't see much talent coming to the team in the two years Ireland has had complete control of the player personnel decisions. I also hold him responsible for his first three years as the teams GM, whether Parcells was here or not.
