Unless Ryan Tannehill Wins the Game Against Buffalo...

Plus, we're in a good position to strike with Big Ben down. Tannehill needs to begin his rise now. The legend of Tannehill can start Thursday.

 

Could get pretty dicey throwing the ball if windy. Might be more about Spiller/Bush (). Their heart and maturity are being called into question. blah, blah, turnovers, blah, blah, execution. They better win or they're done...

That said, I hope it snows...

 

what better than to do it on national t.v. against a division rival. Plus I think i'm gonna pull a risky move for fantasy and start Hartline so RT better ball.

 

As opposed to?

 

Nothing to add to that.I agree 100%

 

While I do agree to some extent, shou, I think SOMEBODY needs to step up.

It's expected for a team to 'babysit' a starting rookie QB. Tannehill has enough on his plate to digest. But the guys who have been in the league for a while and understand the idiosyncrasies of the NFL (Bush, Dansby, even someone like Soliai) have to step it up on prime time. The question is, will they?

With regard to Tannehill, I still think he might need to minimize his mistakes and try to not carry this team by himself. I think it is obvious he cannot at this point. He needs to do his job and get the ball into the hands of Miami's playmakers. And when I say playmakers, I talking about "situational" playmakers. Bess can make a 7 yards into 15. Daniel Thomas has a knack for making firsts on screens and extending drives. Making good throws to Hartline outside. Bush is truly Miami's only 'playmaker' who has that ability to take it home on any given play.

The problem (aside from some O-line issues) is really gameplanning, in all three aspects of the game. Maybe Miami has been outplayed the last couple of games, but let's not get it twisted, Miami beat some solid teams, and on the road. After going up in the first half of the Indy game, it seemed the players thought that Indy would lie down. THAT play by Indy shows the character of that team. Andrew Luck carried that team. I am just not sure that Tannehill is there yet (or for that matter, will ever get there).

 

You certainly make a good point, but do you think he is ready? I am not sure that he is.

I will elaborate a little more later, but have to figure out how I am going to get my 5 year old daughter to understand that daddy has some fashion sense when it comes to picking out her clothes for school!

 

The way this team has been playing lately its ultra important for them to have a great game against the Bills or the season is down the tubes.Other then them beating up on the Jets ( who doesnt ?) they were outplayed by the Rams offensively, they were smacked around defensively by the Colts and embarrased by the Titans. Whatever possitives that were accumulated thus far can turn into huge negatives in a hurry and whatever respect this team was gathering earlier in the season could be all but forgotten, if it hasnt already.
At 5-5 the season is on the fence and salvageable, at 4-6 the season,playoff wise, is a bust. Then its back to the drawing board and drowning in mediocrity yet again.

Also,I agree with Shou. Tannehill has to show us he`s capable of being a true leader right now, rookie or not.

 

Even if they beat Buffalo, this team isn't going to the playoffs. They will be fortunate to finish at .500 the way things are going. I just hope Ireland doesn't frack up in the offseason----or is fired before it and his replacement doesn't frack up. We have significant holes to fill and we need some competence doing it.

 

Personally, the playoffs are a nice thought, but I don't think this team is going to make it this year. Too many tough opponents left with Seattle, San Francisco, and New England twice. I think teams have caught up to what Miami's doing on defense and have exploited the past two weeks. I don't think this offense has enough firepower to get over the hump, especially with the running game pretty much on it's deathbed the past month or so.

If Miami makes it out of Buffalo with a win, which isn't all that unlikely, I think this mini-bye week before the Seattle game is critical to fixing a heck of a lot of things moving forward towards the home stretch. But is this team capable of going on the road to Denver or New England (presently the 3rd and 4th seeds in the playoffs) and coming out on top? I think if you're honest with yourself, "No" is the answer.

Same story, different characters for the 2012 Dolphins, just my opinion of course. But it's yet again too good to be considered bad, but bad enough to not be considered good.

 

I do think this game is very important for this season. It's a turning point game that could point us either up or down the rest of the way. I, however, think it's too early for this to be a turning point game for RT or a game that decides whether or not he's a franchise QB. Realistically, you make that call in year 3 assuming you're seeing progress. And by progress I don't mean a a curve that is always going up. I mean flashes and incremental improvement interrupted by some horrid showings. That's how QBs are developed. People get distracted by won/loss totals but Big Ben had several really bad games that first year that people shrugged off b/c the team won. You can see similar patterns in Brady and Manning's history. The same mistakes never seem as big if somebody else on the team steps up and gets you the win. Conversely, some of these young QBs put up great stats in garbage time. They make mistakes too, but all most fans see are the highlights so those mistakes are minimized as well. People seem to believe that QBs can come in an immediately be almost perfect. Pass friendly systems and rules have upped the stats young QBs can put up, but they still make the same mistakes and have to learn the same lessons.

 

I guess I could see that. I've never really bought in to the team taking on an underdog role and that inspiring an added level of confidence. Even it if did/does, I think that some of those teams, Seattle and San Francisco specifically, each have a defense capable of deflating that balloon of confidence with regard to Tannehill.

As you said though, and I agree, a win against Buffalo and this team has a pulse. I think a win against Seattle would be like a temporary shot of morphine, but I already have some not so pleasant visions of what that defense could potentially do to Tannehill and the offense. I'll say it again, if Miami wins against Buffalo, that mini-bye week is critical.

 

I wasn't sure what you were saying regarding RT (short-term vs. long-term). I do agree with the importance of his play in this game in regards to the short-term. We could have somebody else step up (say Bush returns to running like he did early in the year and/or the D starts hanging on to some of these potential TOs), but the easiest and most likely place to look for a turnaround is at the QB position.

 

Good Luck with THAT!!!! And just wait until she's 13!!!!!

 

I'm not sure I necessarily agree. Obviously losing isn't good, but I'm not sure I'd take much from it beyond the one data point. I think Ryan Tannehill can be expected to have a rating in the high 80s/ low 90s for the most part, but I'm not sure I can see him making a big jump this season.

I think at this point in the season we know exactly what to expect from this team. They're an average team, that will live and die by the turnover. Really the only question is how much luck plays into things, which essentially will determine if this is a 7 win team or a 9 win team.

 

I dont think Ryan Tanehill has it in him to put a team on shoulders and win a game himself.
At least not at this point.

 

IMO, this thread proves that every game in September and October and for over 2/3rd of the teams in November is important and meaningful.

 

I think a lot of pressure has been put on Tanny that shouldn't be. While he was a high pick and all that, the consensus at the time was that he needed some time to grow into the NFL QB position. His lack of experience at that position is showing... It's no real shock that he's struggling, especially coming off his arguably worst outing. I don't think that how this season goes has anything to do with his ability to develop down the road. I know this is a 'win now' league, but some things DO take time. Developing this kid is one of them. If that means we don't have a great season this year, that's fine so long as he continues to improve and learn the nuances of the pro game...

 

He played very well two weeks ago in Indy, had a below average game this last week, I don't think he has to play above what he has showed he can play in this game, I think his team around him needs to get their head out of their ***..

 

Ryan Tannehill needs to make some plays when protection breaks down..

 

One thing this team doesn't need are fans who are going to put the whole season on the back of a developing rookie QB.
Especially with a Head Coach who is willing to give the team's best offensive weapon the hook on a moments notice.
Without the help of the supporting cast it is just way too much pressure.
Have some god damn patience people.

 

I agree to an extent, but I'm not gonna have patience for a vet team that shows their *** at home..

 

I don't think Tannehill needs to put the team on his sholders to right the ship. I think that's what got him in trouble in the second half last week. Tannehill's so far this season has exceeded expectations and if he returns to form prior to the Titans game and other players (Long, Bush, Smith etc..) step up and start playing up to their expectations than even short term I think the team will be ok.

 

Tanny is definitely our future QB. That's why I always believed Tanny should have sat this year and let Moore be the starter. Now that we are in playoff contention, there is more reason Moore should be our starter . No one seems to think that starting a QB prematurely as a starter, can also damage their future. Like, Mark Sanchez as an example...! But I am sure someone is going to rag on my post again, and just call me a Moore lover...

 

Yet we lost the AZ game. So at least partial blame/responsibility would have to fall on some veteran players, no?

 

It is obvious that Brian Hartline was the problem because he got 245 yards that game.

 

What constitutes a rookie QB actually winning a game himself ? Can any Qb do that ? We even lost the game Tannehill played best in.

We need our strengths to be just that. The reasons we won 3 in a row. The Rookie will get better but we cant expect him to be the reason we win, just yet.

As for the season going down the tubes if we lose...... last weeks game really did happen..... Sure we're still mathmatically alive but lets not put it all on the rookie being the difference between playoffs and tanking.

 

I tend to agree that they should stop babysitting Tannehill. I understand the need to physically protect him. Certainly the performance of the line warrants some fear for Tannehill's safety. But if we are serious about the playoffs (which we should be), they need to put more on Tannehill. He's the best chance we have to win.

 

Tannehill calls most of his own plays and runs no huddle more than any other rookie quarterback. They are not babying him.