New cowboy stadium not providing an advantage.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...boys-beg-fans-stand-deliver-article-1.1193557


The Cowboys are 0-3 against the Giants at their new $1.2 billion stadium, but that might not be as embarrassing as this week’s “Stand Up and Shout” campaign that instructs their fans on how to cheer against the Giants.
In an email to season-ticket holders, the Dallas Cowboys Football Club touts a new third down graphic on the video board.
“When you see the video graphic playing on the video board, get on your feet and get LOUD! Together, we can make opposing teams dread coming to Cowboys Stadium,” the email says.


Anyone who has followed me on the correlation of energy inside a building and architecture knows that I have talked about the new cowboys stadium...it's not nearly as bad as our situation, but their seats were constructed pretty far from the field as well, stupidly I might add...The impact has been felt and the front office has to try and manufacture it now.

 

Couldn't believe what I was hearing this morning, reports out of Dallas that they just don't know why " the home field advantage is not there when your there... " but they just can't explain it."

LOL.....

Called that sh$) as soon as I saw how it was built...non intimate..stands too far from the field...incredibly stupid vision..

 

" there is no home field advantage inside Jerry's palace".

" Something just ain't right inside that place.".. I can't explain it"

I heard it all today..check the record..I called this strange happening to happen at that place..

" The cowboy marketing staff writing emails to people to be louder, and to stand and cheer on third down"

Lol.



Hmmm...

 

The similarities between sun life and Jones palace is that distance from the action, makes it a spectator type building, and places like Seattle Arizona, Baltimore, because how their built, engages you into the action..

Spectator...non-intimate..engaged...intimate..

How many times have you personally stood up in sun life and been hushed, how many stories have you heard about others who have, well, think about it, your interrupting their Spector experience, while your forcing yourself to become more engaging..

 

And the diamond blueprint, Seattle...They play with such confidence at home because 65000 fans are standing and our engaged, why are they engaged, because the building puts them on top of the field, giving the team a sense of confidence and adrenaline because of their proximity and the transition of energy.

Spectator fan...Sunlife.." Sit down, your blocking my view"... ". Sit down, they can't hear ya anyway"..

We're so far apart on the advantage it's very difficult to put into context how much of an advantage the dolphins are giving up..

To me, I look at it like a neutral field...point spread changes on neutral fields..

 

The stadiums on this topic. Are the ones that you can see have an advantage thru construction, and the ones that don't.

For example, Seattle and Baltimore have the closest most intimate stadiums in the league, the dolphins and cowboys have what I consider the worst.

If your going to tell me Luck that the atmosphere that can be created at Seattle stadium, Baltimore stadium because of its intimacy, does not improve the performance of their team, and distract the opponent somewhat, then you have no argument, because if you agree that they do, then you should understand how sunlife cannot provide those advantages

 

http://seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/stadium/newnham04.html.

This is what will need to happen to build a culture that we are proud of.



"Material on this page was published when Seahawks Stadium, now called Qwest Field, opened in 2002.

Blaine Newnham / Times Associate Editor
Allen's vision: Open venue with a view


Perhaps it is that he simply got his $130 million worth, but no single person was as influential in the building of Safeco Field as Paul Allen was in the building of Seahawks Stadium.

For all that is modern about the new 67,000-seat stadium, there is more that is nostalgic. The days Allen spent watching football at Husky Stadium gave the architects all the direction they needed.

At a time when most of the new NFL stadiums — in Cleveland, Charlotte, Baltimore, Tampa — are simply large bowls shaped by how many luxury suites they can hold, Seahawks Stadium is daringly different.

It looks more like a European soccer stadium — or even the main stadium at the Sydney Olympics — than it does a venue for professional football.


ROD MAR / THE SEATTLE TIMES
Gov. Gary Locke, left, listens to Seahawks owner Paul Allen after the grand opening of Seahawks Stadium. Team president Bob Whitsitt stands at right.
No other new NFL stadium has a roof covering most of its patrons or an open end to its city. No other stadium has anything like the spade-shaped bleachers in the north end that will be known as the Hawks Nest and be immediately recognizable on SportsCenter.

"Paul was transfixed by the model of the open bleachers, which was basically a steel structure with a skin on it," said James Poulson, the architect with Ellerbe Becket's design team. "He must have stared at it for 15 minutes.

"Then he asked, 'Where else has this been done?' When we told him, 'Nowhere,' he said, 'Great, we're going to do this.' "

Seahawks Stadium is what it is because of the restricted urban site where it replaced the Kingdome and because Allen, who had rescued the Seahawks for Seattle, knew what he wanted.

The site — basically where the Kingdome used to be — is the smallest of those developed for new NFL stadiums. It produced an intimate, cantilevered stadium with downtown views instead of a mammoth bowl in the middle of a parking lot.

Allen and his friend and associate, Bert Kolde, set the ground rules early. They wanted a stadium that would be open to the elements. They wanted a stadium that would be open to the views. They wanted a stadium that would find a way to protect most of its inhabitants from winter rains.

The challenge produced intimacy. The solution was to cantilever much of the upper deck out over the lower deck, to do what they did at Husky Stadium 50 years ago.

"It was an expensive solution," said Poulson, "but it gave us so many more seats closer to the field than if we had done a standard bowl. The cantilevered seats also increased protection from the rains."

Seahawks Stadium doesn't have the finishing touches that Safeco Field does: the steel work, the antique feel, the wide concourse that allows views of the field.

But it didn't cost as much, and a stadium for football is inherently different than one for baseball.

With its roof, Safeco almost looks larger than Seahawks Stadium, even though it seats 20,000 fewer fans.

"People tend to stay in their seats more during a football game," said Kelly Kerns, the project manager on the stadium for Ellerbe Becket. "In baseball, there is a bigger need to see the field at all times."

What you see away from your seats at Seahawks Stadium are wonderful views of the city, Mount Rainier and Elliott Bay.

Many of the new football stadiums leave you enclosed as you hike up ramps to get to upper-level seats.

"You have no idea what city you are in," Kerns said. "Those stadiums become continuous, enclosed ovals. We wanted to respond with our design in Seattle to the site, to the climate and to the urban environment. We also wanted to respond in a complementary way to Safeco Field with our simple rainbow-truss system to the roof."

The two roof sections were painted white to distinguish them from Safeco Field.

"The color white also has an abstract relationship with Mount Rainier and Mount Baker," said Poulson, who has left Ellerbe Becket and now works for BJSS Duarte Bryant in Seattle.

"We also wanted, with our tower in the north end of the stadium, to create an icon that reminded people of the Smith Tower, the King Street Station and the Space Needle."

This stadium is Seattle, and it is different.

Besides views of the city, the set of stand-alone bleachers for the crazies and a vertical scoreboard, the north end also has the NFL's first field-level luxury suites.

"There's a lot of interest in the NFL in those suites," Poulson said. "Some people think it is a dumb idea; some are excited about having the fans right next to the players."

Dumb or daring? At least Seahawks Stadium is different."


No mr Allen, it's not dumb..

How can you guys not see what's going on around here.

 

"There's a lot of interest in the NFL in those suites," Poulson said. "Some people think it is a dumb idea; some are excited about having the fans right next to the players."

Wow..what a revelation, having the fans right next to the players..and what an investment gold mine...so many idiot owners..

I'm glad one agrees with me..

 

Cowboys go back home after a big win, getting their season back on track, and go down 13 to 0 to the browns...again frustrating the fanbase at home...the fanbase is confused and is now starting to question the "feel" of the building, their confused as to why their team plays worse at home than on the road...lol

 

Good stadium to have a Kenny Cheney concert, gross one for football...nice job Jerry.lol