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What Happened to the Running Game?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shouright, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    If you've watched this team all year, I think the title says it all. I don't think I need to post any team stats here to support this.

    The running game started the year in dominant fashion. The last few weeks it's been terrible.

    Reggie Bush averaged 1.4 yards per carry today. In a key 4th-quarter, clock-killing drive, he couldn't get the one yard needed for a 1st down on two consecutive carries. After a fake punt extended the drive, he couldn't get the one yard needed for a 1st down on 3rd down, which stalled the drive and gave the Rams the ball with plenty of time to win the game.

    What in the hell is going on here?
     
  2. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    For starters Miami has played some teams that are STOUT against the run. And then there's Dance Party Reggie Bush. I'm not going to bash him he's just trying for the home run every time he touches the ball and losing a lot of yards in the process.
     
  3. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The offensive line got no push all day. They got manhandled for the most part. There was no running room. I can't really fault Reggie for this, but it seems some want to make it out to be that way. With that being said, I do think Reggie is hesitating too much, trying to make the big run all the time, rather just just pushing forward and getting positive yardage. However, it was hard to get positive yards today, without much room to run. The OL has to do a better job IMO.
     
  4. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Then why not bash him?
     
  5. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    He DID get the yardage on that last play honestly before the fake. Horrible spot. They marked it where he got upended not where the ball landed.

    However I put the blame on the offensive line. Reggie is meeting defenders in the backfield far too often.
     
  6. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Right, but when you dance around back there all day and get thrown for major losses, how much are you building the other team's confidence and momentum to stop the run, while killing that of your own?
     
  7. sports24/7

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    I thought the offensive line was pretty bad today. There was very little running room. Bush again tried to bounce too many, but overall I thought the lack of production in the running game today falls on the line. They did play a pretty good defense though.
     
  8. GreysonWinfield

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    Was there really a lot of dancing this week? It looked like far to much penetration by the defense. They showed one play where a defender got low, forced the block back closing the lane. Reggie had to take it to the outside and picked up less than 2 yards. He took the only lane that was there on ths play.
     
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  9. Hellion

    Hellion Crash Club Member

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    I agree he is dancing WAY to much..actually i had the same gripe about Ronnie Brown. i think they missed DT today, he is the short yardage guy, but that shows a lack of cofidence in the FBs does it not?
     
  10. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    What were the major losses her got thrown for today that directly fell on him? I remember a play to the left that closed down and he reversed the field to the right. He gets hit with a 2 yard loss instead of 4. He ran north south in the 1st when he took it to the 2 yard line. He leaped about 6ft in the air to try to get the 1st down in the 4th. Would you have preffered he take the defender on 2 yards beyond the marker?
     
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  11. jsizzle

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    The announcers made a point to show how LITTLE dancing Reggie was doing this week vs. last week. Only had 3 negative yardage plays vs. 10 last week, at that point. But yeah, negative Nancy, he dances too much. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The offensive line isn't playing as well and Reggie Bush has regressed badly. I'd have to look at this game again but the last couple weeks between Incognito and Martin there have been a fair amount of runs single-handedly destroyed by bad blocking in either direction.

    Someone needs to sit down Reggie Bush literally or figuratively. Start giving away his carries again like early last year, because he's playing like the New Orleans bust. He's making awful decisions with the ball that are actively hurting the team. Sometimes blocking is a problem at times, but he compounds it with making stupid decisions to go backwards or reverse field.
     
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  13. DrAstroZoom

    DrAstroZoom Canary in a Coal Mine Luxury Box

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    O-line was stuffed, and Lane had a weak blocking day. I think Bush is still hurting as well.
     
  14. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    O-line was pretty awful today. That being said, Reggie needs to stop with the happy feet behind the line. Just pick a damn hole and hit it. You can do the "looking for a home run play" dancing once you've gotten 5 positive yards.

    He needs to realize that it's better to get 1 positive yard, than be dropped behind for a loss of 5.
     
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  15. shouright

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    Is bulling it up in there for a half-yard on 2nd down and a half-yard on 3rd down too much to ask?
     
  16. WhiteIbanez

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    Lamar Miller looks like John Avery and we are *****ing about Reggie Bush.
    This thread makes no sense.
    Daniel Thomas was missed today.
     
  17. GreysonWinfield

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    You have to be kidding about DT. He is a weak runner and he is concussed because he plays that way.
     
  18. Alex44

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    I disagree with this. Would you like him to lower his shoulder yards in the backfield and lose three yards anyway? By dancing around he has actually turned -3 yard losses into plays of no gain, -1 yards and -2 yards.

    Nothing Reggie has done has bothered me. There have only been two plays the last two games I thought he bounced around when he didn't need to. Sometimes dancing is the best option, but people have it too deeply planted into their mind that it's bad to actually analyze the play itself.
     
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  19. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    What happened is the Running Game is dressing up as Legadu Naanee for Halloween.
     
  20. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Come on man. It's 2nd and 1. Get the 1st down. Get me one yard.
     
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  21. GreysonWinfield

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    When you are 1-2 yards behind the line and the blocking has collapsed the answer is yes. Look at the play again and tell me how he is going to "bull it up". Tell the fat pigs up front to do their job and give the guy a ****ing ray of light to run to and then talk to me if he isn't making a play.
     
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  22. Alex44

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    You meet two linebackers behind the LOS and then tell me how easy that is.
     
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  23. Disgustipate

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    Bush is fully capable of generating yards after contact through a variety of means. I don't understand why be is a sacred cow.

    If it were one time, it wouldn't be an issue. It's been a half dozen or so plays plus in three weeks.
     
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  24. jsizzle

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    Shou, honest question.

    Did you SEE the game? Or just follow it online?

    Their front 4 dominated our line almost the whole time. The fact the Reggie got ANY yards is testimony to his ability to make people miss and pick up yards when there aren't any there. The line was terrible.
     
  25. Hellion

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    Whoa,, settle down lol i am not calling DT the second coming of csonka..dam.. But they do rely on him in short yardage situations this season and instead of him runing on 3rd and 4th and short it was Reggie..
     
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  26. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's not 100% physically. There's no excuse for trying to be superman. A lot of the decisions he would make would be problematic under best possible circumstances. Take what is given, period
     
  27. Jt0323

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    Oakland run d made it look better then it is.
     
  28. GreysonWinfield

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    So scared that he gave it up to leap the guy to try to get the 1st. Lay the blame where it belongs on the OLine. They played like **** today, they almost got RT killed on a few plays. But maybe we should blame RT for not getting rid if the ball faster.
     
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  29. VanDolPhan

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    In the first half he was dancing too much. You can't deny that. It was clear he got told off about it because he mostly cut it out in the 2nd half.
     
  30. shouright

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    I just did. On the 2nd and 1 play, he had a lane inside that could've gotten him at least a yard, and he went wide. On the 3rd and 1 play a defender penetrated and took away anything inside, but if he runs the right way on 2nd and 1, there is no 3rd and 1.
     
  31. GreysonWinfield

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    Im really dissapointed in the guy and just don't see him as a good back. With his size he should be much better than he is. He runs small & scared IMO. It wasn't a shot at you. I was stoked when they drafted him but I will be surprised if he is with the team next year.
     
  32. shouright

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    My feeling exactly.
     
  33. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    no poll?
     
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  34. jw3102

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    Reggie has not been the same running back since he was injured against the Jets. The offensive line has also not been opening holes in recent weeks. The Dolphins don't have any receivers which threaten the opposing team, therefore they can load up the defense to stop the run.

    With Reggie not running with the speed and power he did before the injury and the WR's unable to stretch the defense, the Dolphins have just become a very mediocre running team. I think it will remain this way until the Dolphins eventually get a true #1 receiver. Hartline proved today that he is not a true blue chip receiver by making zero catches in the game.

    This has been the problem with Hartline since he has been a member of the Dolphins. He shows up for some games and he completely disappears in other games. Right now I don't care if they sign him to a new contract or not. Wes Welker is a free agent after this season and I would rather the Dolphins sign him as their #2 receiver than, Hartline.
     
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  35. shouright

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    It's essentially become his style!
     
  36. jsizzle

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    We need to give Shou credit, he comes up with some of the most ridiculous threads ie. Matt Moore, a case for starting him. :sidelol:

    But at least he gives us something to debate!
     
  37. Hellion

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    I know what your saying i think we have all been disappointed in DT. I didnt mind the pick but as of now he's been a disappointment.
     
  38. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Poll????
     
  39. MrClean

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    I agree. I place the blame for the poor ground game 99% on the offensive line, not on Bush or the other backs.
     
  40. RickyNeverInhaled

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    The real question is where was Miller? He he didn't get a fair chance on this game he might not ever get a chane unless DT and Bush have a concussion. That's dissapointing! He obviously hasn't won the coaches over.
    As a response to this thread I will regurgatate what different posters have said becaause they're all true. We have faced stout run defenses, Reggie dances around too much and the Offensive line hasn't put forth as much effort against the run defenses we've been facing. On top off all that Reggie is still showing up on the injury report, which brings me back to this...Where was Miller??
     

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