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IMO: Joe Philbin | One Big Reason This Team is Playing Well

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shouright, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...miami-dolphins-1008-20121007,0,6894883.column


    Jeff Darlington also said Sunday that he wasn't surprised the team won against Cincinnati, as he had visited the locker room prior to the game and felt the players were "buying in."

    The team is also outscoring its opponents 38-17 in the third quarter, a measure of halftime coaching adjustments, and hasn't committed a single holding penalty since week one, a measure of focus and discipline.

    I think what we're starting to see here is that the conscientiousness and attention to detail Joe Philbin showed in picking up a wrapper off the ground in the team's practice facility are the same things responsible for the thoroughness and focus with which the week's opponent is dissected and his own team is prepared and put in position to win.

    I have long believed that at this level, the job of a head coach stops being one primarily of motivation of players and starts being one of intelligently putting players in position to win.

    We've seen this with the recent dynasties in San Francisco and New England, where Bill Walsh and Bill Belichick were not fiery, in your face, "rah rah" guys, but were instead very intelligent, methodical coaches who outcoached and outsmarted their opponent, put their players in position to win, and let the players motivate themselves and each other.

    I think we're starting to see the same thing with Joe Philbin, and I think the team is starting to take on his personality.

    Now, the next order of business is for leaders among the players to buy in to what Joe Philbin is creating, and thereby create the "bandwagon" their teammates can jump onto. The candidates for those positions are Jake Long, Reggie Bush, Brian Hartline, Mike Pouncey, Karlos Dansby, Randy Starks, and Reshad Jones. And yes, Ryan Tannehill. ;)

    At that point you'll have what I believe is the essential component of winning consistently at a high level in the NFL: a pervasive, winning team culture that is an extension of the head coach's philosophy, and which leaders among the players, including the all-important quarterback, help permeate throughout the roster.

    This team is on its way folks. I can feel it. :up:
     
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  2. Loyal Fin

    Loyal Fin Business as usual

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    I remember that wrapper Shou. I'm glad you were right and I was wrong. Philbin is great with detail and I've been seeing a well coached Dolphins football team.
     
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  3. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    It also is great to see how the Jets are imploding on offense, with Captain Fistpump and his ridiculous usage of timeouts and odd Wildcat insertions.

    Funny how you have to step outside your loyalties to the team to realize how off-base many of us were in defense of Sparano. If I remember correctly, Section had some inside sources within the organization that basically lampooned Sparano and claimed he was a horrible leader and coach.

    I quoted Philbin after our loss to the Cardinals, where he stated, "God, no, I went home and slept,'' Philbin said Monday at his noon press conference to discuss Sunday's 24-21 loss to the 4-0 Arizona Cardinals. "I stayed up the whole plane ride home, watched the entire film, walked around saw the players. I tell the players all the time football's not that complicated that you got to do it 24-7. "

    This quote epitomizes the attitude Philbin brings. This isn't rocket science. Execute the game-plan, play hard and we will win. Tannehill said something very similar this past week after the Bengals victory.. Something to the extent of not over-complicating things.

    Philbin will bring balance back to this franchise, and with that. the potential for true greatness as players continue to buy

    "Why not us" doesn't win football games, execution and persistence does. And if we do make the playoffs, I doubt Philbin will hang his hat on that. He would want the team laser focused on winning, without celebrating until they reach their ultimate goal.
     
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  4. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    That's a great point. I was lambasted on this board about a year ago when I warned people about getting too excited about Sparano's big Rha Rha "Gladiator" luncheon speech at the beginning of the season. Sparano was more of a cheerleader than a leader. And he wasn't bright enough to be a head coach in this league. He's probably not bright enough to be an offensive coordinator either.

    Philbin is almost the exact opposite. There's no question he's smart enough. We wondered if he could be a leader. So far I think he's doing a great job.
     
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  5. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Reminds me of Damien Woody. He said that on the Patriots, he showed up on game days feeling like he was walking in to take a test he knew he was going to ace.
     
  6. DOLPHAN1

    DOLPHAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

    I posted something towards this in the dreaded Ireland discussion thread that I think a major role in his success or lack there of is tied to the abilities of the coaching that has impacted the players he has brought in. now I'm not suggesting he has been 100% and all his failures are Sporanos fault but I think it is clear that with the emergence of some players now that they are being played to their strengths rather than form fitted to a scheme, they are serviceable rather than on the fringe now. the secondary, an area I think we can all agree was scary to most 6 months ago now isn't quite so scary. Philbin and crew are building a team around what they have as apposed to what they want. I'm sure we will see an evolution in players on this team in the coming years as Philbin pushes for his players but he is clearly a half full kind of coach and that should make for a more competitive team earlier rather than later.
     
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  7. arsenal

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    I love how Philbin emphasizes that football shouldn't be overthought... its about players executing and just being prepared...

    I ****ing love that quote...
     
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  8. thisperishedmin

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    I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much but I like what I'm hearing out of the locker room and coach, so much more this year - than any recent. Its nice to think we have a coach who gets it, and players who are buying into it...and above all, a team thats playing better and better each week overall.
     
  9. djphinfan

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    Little off topic but Arod said he blames struggles on lack of proper practice tempo..

    Hmm, I wonder if Philbin was runnin practices there as he is here, I presume so.
     
  10. fin13

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    I totally agree with you, I think that Philbin will make Ireland draft picks work out because he's abetter coach and I'm sure will have input, as in partnership.
    I couldn't stand Sporano I always felt he was over his head and was given the job by his buddy Parcells.
    The Dolphins organization based on what I see will be solid for years to come.
     
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  11. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I find it interesting how Philbin got rid of Marshall and now Hartline is leading the NFL, how he kept on saying you don't need a number 1 receiver, I guess you just need discipline players.
    The Jets loose Holmes their number 1 and that becomes an excuse for Sanchez, I love what I see from Phibin.
     
  12. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Well I think it's also the case that Philbin made it clear to the players that the staff will do everything to develop them if they do their part to meet them halfway, respond to the coaching, and help develop themselves.

    You see that most clearly in the comparison, for example, between Vontae Davis's being traded, I think precisely because he wasn't that kind of player, and Jonathan Martin's being handed a starting job, I think precisely because he was.

    Now look at what Davis is doing in terms of his development, and look at what Martin is doing. Those players are going in opposite directions.

    This is why I said back during camp that the trade of Davis in itself, despite losing a player who could contribute physically, might go a long way toward getting this team to play better, insofar as it makes clear what the coaches expect from the players and makes them responsible for it.

    Sometimes when somebody gets "fired," the rest of the "employees" start performing better, especially if players like Martin are also rewarded.
     
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  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    IMO, I agree
     
  14. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    One thing I like about Philbin and this coaching staff as a whole is how they challenge the younger players.

    For example, John Jerry comes in 35 lbs overweight. When Artis Hicks went down, they didn't just bury him on the depth chart and go with someone like Nate Garner. They threw a lot at John Jerry. They challenged him, and he has handled that challenge very well to this point.

    My guess is, Vontae Davis is a guy they challenged by putting Richard Marshall ahead of him, and Davis is likely gone because he didn't respond appropriately to the challenge.

    Lamar Miller is in the doghouse right now and gets a limited work load despite his production because he doesn't know the plays and ran the wrong way on a play against Arizona.

    Now, Charles Clay is the guy that has been told he needs to figure things out soon.

    IMO, there is no fear of failure.
     
  15. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    Some people got all worked up over Philbin's obsessive attention to detail, but I've always thought it was a great trait to have as a head coach. I recall a former Dolphin, Larry Csonka perhaps, talking about how nothing ever got by Don Shula, and how the players were amazed that he could spot the smallest mistake from a half a football field away. A lot of coaches talk about being detailed oriented, but there may not be a lot of them out there that are so naturally oriented towards it. Philbin appears to be one.
     
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  16. Ludacris

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    Sparano and Philbin are miles apart.

    I said at one time anyone could beat Sparano in chess in 4 moves everytime. He was completely devoid of having a strategic mind. He would take time outs at terrible times and not take timeouts when they needed to extend the game to come back. He could not make a half time adjustment to save his life. It was the same boring bat crazy game plan from beginning to end even if it wasn't working in the first half.

    Philbin has a lot more faith in his players. Fans could argue that he can get a bit too agressive at closing out the half or closing out the game but I have the belief that you must have FAITH in your players to make plays. Daniel Thomas might fumble late in the half or Tannehill might throw a pick late in the game or Clay runs out of bounds but they'll learn and they'll reward that faith with making plays. Reshad Jones makes a pick at the end...they'll get confidence to succeed. I hate conservative, lets not lose, lets not give ourselves a chance attitude of Sparano. If a head coach does not instill confidence in their players those players will endure a life of never having the courage to make plays and will always be scared or tentative.

    It's completely night and day compared to the previous coaching staff.
     
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  17. WhiteIbanez

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    I love how the fanbase perceived Philbin as a control freak nazi on a reality show but love him as a football coach.
    Now that is perspective really.
     
  18. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Pffft, we lose Hartline, we're totally ****ed. We lose Bess, we're totally ****ed. We have zero depth at the WR position. Gaffney isn't going to be a viable threat in the immediate future. Maybe you don't need #1's in his system (debatable), but you you need decent players. We have two. Either get hurt, the other id double covered and we're up ****s creek.

    Holmes is the only WR on the jet's ready to play. The rest of the guys aren't that special (Excluding Hill, but he's an under developed rookie), just like the rest of ours. We'd have the same exact problem. Don't twist it.
     
  19. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    There are plenty of other threads available for that topic.
     
  20. djphinfan

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    I wonder what the leadership counsel meeting was about this week.hopefully something like, " coach, we think we can do something special this year."

    Love to see a focused hungry group against the rams..I'm sure they're gonna be.
     
  21. Fin D

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    Please illustrate for the board how in a single off-season you propose we should have filled every need the team had?
     
  22. shouright

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    The fake punt call today was the most ballsy call I've seen in a while in the NFL, and certainly more ballsy than anything I ever saw with Sparano.
     
  23. Den54

    Den54 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Agree completely. Our coach was ballin and on point today.
     
  24. Jaj

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    When this season is done, I'm going to go watch the end of last year and Hard Knocks. This team really does want to turn the corner.
     
  25. shouright

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    A recent quote from Joe Philbin:

    This is honestly the next step folks. If this development is truly as solid as it sounds, I think you can expect a win this week, and I think you can expect a winning season.

    That stuff is that powerful IMO.
     
  26. texanphinatic

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    I think this Jets game will be very interesting. We have had 2 weeks to prepare and study, we have played them earlier in the year already. This is the type of game that in theory we should come out rolling. A minor offensive twist the Jets won't anticipate that allows us to score on the first drive, maybe even 2 and put us up a solid margin. Defensively, just shutting them down.

    If we can stomp on them early, I think the Jets will get disheartened. Another good round of third quarter adjustments and we can roll. Big game for Philbin, the staff and team in general.

    It is definitely nice to see a team that seems to adjust well - that is something Tony seemed to really struggle with, and I think is important. The good teams are the ones that can make the adjustments that put the players in position to win, and can get the players to execute.
     
  27. fin13

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    I wasn't talking about depth, I was just thinking that what you need is players that are committed to the coaches plan, not to their own agenda, against the Rams when Hartline was basically taken out of the game other guys stepped up, eg.Moore.
    I feel like we now have a smarter team, "walk softly and carry a big stick" as the season progresses you may see others step up.
    I don't know if the team can make the playoffs or if they'll get blown out against the Jets but for some reason I for the first time in years feel like the Dolphins are headed in the right direction.
    I've watched the Jets and since the Revis and the Holmes injuries they are playing better even with their losses they seem to be playing as a team and in my opinion they may be more dangerous now, and all of this out of necessity.
    **** I hate saying that about the ****ing Jets.
     
  28. DevilFin13

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    Fear is why you fail. How can you move faster, fight longer, without the most powerful part of the spirit?

    Couldn't resist Dark Knight Rises quote. Good points though.
     
  29. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Here you go:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/29/3071861/emphatic-win-shows-miami-dolphins.html
     
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  30. djphinfan

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    Going into the next game.

    Everybody knows, we just ended another teams football season by beating the hell out of them..The confidence should be sky high going into Indy this week, the trick is, for Philbin to steer that intensity and confidence into the right focus, and deal with that freak Luck..if we go in hungry and contain Luck, we should be ok..
     
  31. Fin D

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    No worries.

    Just a post game speech and shower after that *** whoppin we handed the NYDickwads, Pouncey said this:

    Link

    I'm telling you, playoffs or not, the turn has happened.
     
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  32. shouright

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    And that's essentially this, from the original post:

    ...which is essentially the key ingredient of winning IMO.

    It's also the key ingredient of a dynasty.
     
  33. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Did you just talk about yourself in the third person, while giving yourself a nickname?

    Still, I am liking Philbin.
     
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  34. KB21

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    It was, and then Philbin topped it with the onside kick.
     
  35. shouright

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    Ya gotta love the attitude of going into hostile enemy territory in a highly emotionally charged game and essentially throwing a spear right at the enemy's heart as a first move.

    If that doesn't inspire your players, you have the wrong players.

    And the beauty of it is that even if you don't recover the onside kick, chances are you will have inspired your players so much with that move that they rise to the occasion and make a defensive stop, partly because you've inspired them, and partly to help cover your *** for being so gutsy. The last thing your players are going to want to do in a game they're highly motivated to win is let you hang out to dry after you've given them the spear to throw right at the enemy's heart as an opening move, even if it doesn't hit its intended target.

    Conversely, think of how you'd react to that as a Jets player. "Damn, these guys came to play today, from the coaching staff all the way down."

    And the beauty of Philbin is that I think he understands these sorts of things. He has a very sophisticated mind IMO.

    I suspect that's why we saw such tremendous special teams dominance Sunday: Philbin got those guys' juices flowing with that onside kick, and they made plays from then on for the rest of the day. Mike Westhoff said he's never seen anything like it.
     
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  36. Fin D

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    When it is all said and done, the headlines and stories will be discussing what took so long for a team to give Philbin a HC shot.
     
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  37. Berezo

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    I absolutely love the way he conducts himself. Its so true about NFL teams compared to other sports. They really do take on the identity of their coach. It is showing already which is awesome!
     
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  38. djphinfan

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    Yup westoff said it was the biggest beat down he's ever experienced in his career.
     
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  39. Coral Reefer

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    I won't disagree with you on Philbin's influence.
    The importance of good coaching gets overlooked quite a bit especially in a league where the talent levels of most of the players are so close.
    It's a very important factor on a number of levels.
     
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    Another thing about Philbin that I look at when making a judgement on the character of the man is the style and substance of his sense of humor. Philbin says some really funny things sometimes and delivers them in a unique way. This tells me he really has some smarts and speaks of the sophistication of his mind.
     
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