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I didn't realize Carpenter was this bad!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jsizzle, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. jsizzle

    jsizzle Banned

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    From Peter King.

    Miami kicker Dan Carpenter (No. 5): While precocious rookies like Blair Walsh and Greg Zuerlein (a perfect 8-of-8 for the Rams from 46 yards and beyond in his first month as a pro), Carpenter has already cost the Dolphins one win -- missing two late field-goal tries against the Jets in a three-point loss. Dave Hyde of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel had a great stat Friday morning: Carpenter is 10-of-25 from more than 45 yards in the last two seasons.
    That's the kind of inaccuracy that lands a kicker on the unemployment line. I reference Carpenter because the Dolphins should be in a competitive game in Cincinnati, one that can be won or lost in the final minutes. Hard to see Miami sticking with him much longer if he keeps missing.


    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../10/05/nfl-game-plan/index.html#ixzz28cG3kEoM
     
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  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    Point is only relevant if there's a better replacement out there
     
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  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    10/25 from 45 and over.. Really?, Jesus.
     
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  4. jboogie

    jboogie The sky is NOT falling!

    Save us Brandon fields!
     
  5. Disnardo

    Disnardo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I am sure that King is wrong... Looking at the players stats in his profile... Carpenter is 29/46 (63%) from over 40+ yards since the start of 2010...

    2012= 1/4
    2011= 13/16
    2010= 15/26

    He is 6/13 (46%) on over 50+ yards since 2010 start...
    He is 23/33 (70%) from 40-49 yards since 2010 start...

    Don't know how he can produce this article with either a blatant lie to stir the hits or incomptent reporting... Am I being a bit harsh???
     
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  6. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    Didn't look at the numbers here but I saw that the OP referenced kicks over 45 yards and you references those over 40 yards. Could be he is fine between 40-44 but struggles from 45+. Shows just how important those few yards can be.
     
  7. Disnardo

    Disnardo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The issue is that the profiles don't break the yardage into 45+, and unless he dids into looking at games analysis, which I don't belive he did (King), he is using some numbers and throwing it out there...


    But I will check those games out and spend a few hours checking them out...
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Your not being to harsh if your accurate, and I trust "good will hunting"
     
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  9. Is it surprising to anyone that he lacks leg strength and becomes very inaccurate after 45yrds. He also chokes under pressure. We need a better kicker.
     
  10. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He doesn't lack leg strength. He booms it past the end zone quite a bit. The only relevant comparison is to the rest of the kickers in the league beyond 40 yards.

    This page tells the story:

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...amp;tabSeq=1&qualified=true&Submit=Go

    He's 26th in the league. He was no. 7 in 2011 and no. 4 in 2010. He's peaked and is back down to where he was in 2008. Time to start looking for another kicker.
     
  11. 407PhinFan

    407PhinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah, dude, his leg blows...
    <br>[video=youtube;OMzZVW7ue0k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMzZVW7ue0k[/video]

    :shifty:
     
  12. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    You're right, King didn't do it. The article says it was Dave Hyde.
     
  13. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    With those kind of stats the coaches need to get the ball closer to increase the chances of a FG .That is until he gets out of his slump or we find a better FG kicker.We are just bucking the odds if we dont IMO.
     
  14. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Cut him during the bye week if we find an adequate replacement. We should be 3-1. Carpeneter has cost this team countless millions in terms of ticket sales and has hurt our playoff chances.
     
  15. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Playoffs? PLAYOFFS? Don't talk to me about playoffs!
     
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  16. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Like it or not, we should be 3-1. At 3-1, facing the early schedule we faced, it certainly was something to discuss.
    Look at our next 5-6 games, if we take care of business against the teams we should take care of business of, then that discussion can become even more pertinent.
     
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  17. Disnardo

    Disnardo Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well, I have to say that I take everything that I stated above on King/Hyde, back... My bad... but these are situtations that Hyde was looking at when analyzing Carpenter's work over the last few years...

    and he IS RIGHT... Capenters has accuracy problems after 45+ yards really since the start of last year...

    So Hyde uses the 45+ instead of the 40+ yards, because if he uses the 40+ he looses his case...

    IMHO, Carpenter is having mental issues on this range, and not an issue with leg strength...
     
  18. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    His case is from 45 and beyond, so its his case, therefore nothing to lose....

    I would like to know how many are say 45-49 and remove all the 50+ from the #'s.
     
  19. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I share your enthusiasm, bro. Still, we shouldn't have been in a position where Carpenter had to win those games with long field goals. That's indicative of bigger weaknesses than the kicker that have to be addressed before we can even begin to think of ourselves as a playoff team.

    And yes; he should have made those field goals.
     
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  20. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    very simple:
    all the guy does is kick the ball
    if he pulls out of his slump & rides high the rest of the season
    he's in
    if he doesn't, he out

    sure they are already scouting viable competition for the position
     

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