They're going to need to make sure they use Lamar Miller some on running downs so they can have a fresh Reggie Bush and his much better blitz pick-up ability on passing downs. You don't want Reggie Bush calling for a sub on 3rd and 10 and Lamar Miller doing your pass blocking.
I just don't see that. I see everything bottled up to the left (to the play's original design). I see Clay coming from the right trying to pick up the shooting safety. To Clay's right I see a massive run lane with tons of daylight. ... then I see Thomas trying to jump cut around Clay which would've put Clay in between himself & the safety, giving Thomas a huge gain with nothing but a safety 15 yards in front of him. Only problem was Thomas was a fraction of a second too late and it was a bang-bang type of play.
Nope. Daniel Thomas got used and abused by Grandpa Bill at KSU. He will be done in about 3 years unfortunately
He was not injury prone during his two seasons at Kansas State. They rode him hard behind a crap OL, being keyed on most of the time, because he was their main threat, and he took a licking and kept on ticking. 545 carries in two seasons, for 2850 yards and 30 TDs rushing. 5.2 yds a carry. There was absolutely no indication in college that he'd be injury prone in the pros.
He hasn't been in the NFL for two years, yet. As I recall he had the most rushing yards among AFC rookie RBs in 2011. That's a god damn thing.
Are we really so sad that were calling a guy injury prone over a nagging hamstring (which a heck of a lot of players in the league play through) and blaming him for a concussion? I'll reserve judgement until the end of the season, but he was definitely looking better then last year up until the concussion. At the very least he's a solid blocker and a fine pass catcher for a guy whose only entering his 4th year of being a running back. If he can stay healthy he's got a shot at being a good 1-2 punch with Bush. I can't see why those against Thomas though would be chuffed to see Miller.......now there's a guy whose shown jack all so far. Good chance he's going to get Tanny blown up at least once this upcoming game if they aren't careful where they use him.
I don't think Thomas is injury prone. He had problems last year because he was lazy in his rehab work, and he admitted that already.
He's not. J.J. Watt absolutely destroyed him without even slowing down en route to a sack of Tannehill this weekend. And Reggie had the benefit on the play of Jon Martin slowing Watt down.
Can people think of a single time Lamar Miller got blown up in pass protection during the preseason? Or are they just assuming he's bad in pass protection just because.
You dismiss one season's worth of evaluation as not fair, and then turn around and decry how quick people are to dismiss players. It doesn't work that way. You don't get to disregard the material used for evaluation and then claim it's unfair to evaluate because there's no material.
FWIW, I do recall reading scouting reports on him during draft season that denigrated his pass blocking ability.
I get that but you can say it about like 90% of all backs coming out of college. To me it's not even really that relevant. It's nice when you see a guy come out like Daniel Thomas that has already been taught and is already good at it, but otherwise it's not a big deal because coaches only have X amount of hours with their college players each week, so they barely even teach blocking to their tailbacks. I have seen way too many tailbacks be polar opposites as far as protection goes, compared with what they were in college. And I've heard that Miller has really done well with pass protection in training camp and practice, and then he seemed to do well with it in the preseason games. I think he's fine there. It's Reggie Bush who continually proves that, good as he's become as a ball carrier and receiving weapon, that's just one aspect of the game he can't get down.
And if he learned his lesson from all that why is he in Coach Philbin's offense trying to explain why he was late to the team's plane flight, broke dress code, and then was late to a lifting session all within the span of about 4 days?
No, that's not what I was implying. The material out there is fine to judge, but it's also to early to make a complete judgement.
IMO if you're a GM then you're not afforded the time to make complete judgments. If you keep waiting for that, you lose. Your job is to make accurate judgments based on incomplete and imperfect information.
If he knows it then why, as CK has pointed out numerous times was he late for the team's flight, broke dress code and was late to a lifting session in a 4 day span?
I agree, now sometimes it does click and you make the needed adjustments but more often than not , it doesn't happen imo. We'll see , but after the season he had , a new staff , a chance to make the huge first impression and he basically sluffs off? Don't like the indication personally.
But it wasn't when he was drafted , nor after a disappointing first season , or when a new staff is brought in? A pattern, no?
So you don't think Thomas should get this season to be judged on? You think it's ok to judge him based on a shortened rookie year?
Because he's immature. If he doesn't get it by now, then this whole discussion is moot because he won't be around much longer. Philbin wants professionals.
I never proposed we cut the man. He's still got time. But he's wasting that time by being unprofessional in camp and then in his first game showing the same lack of instincts issue that has plagued him the whole time. There's a flip side of this coin though that I'm not sure you're thinking of. What has LAMAR MILLER done to deserve being in the dog house? I mean if you think about it that way, you get a better perspective on it. You have to remember this is all relative and if you keep just looking at one side of the coin you never find the justification to do anything. Miller was taken with a significant draft pick, they traded up to get him, they had a higher draft grade on him than they had on Daniel Thomas. He played well in the preseason where he amassed 147 yards and a TD on 37 total touches. He blocked well. We never saw him on Hard Knocks ending up in Joe Philbin's office or on the end of a Mike Sherman tongue lashing. Yet he's inactive for the game while Daniel Thomas gets chance after chance after chance. Why does Lamar Miller deserve to be in the dog house? By proposing we keep him there while Thomas gets more chances, couldn't I make the argument that you're "giving up" on Miller?
I hope the best for DT, for his good and more than anything for the good of the team, but I just can not understand what exactly they saw in him, what is "special" enough about him to move up in the draft? anyway, let's hope for the best
Don't think I'm not excited for Lamar Miller, because I am. I like what he brigns to the offense as he could be a real weapon. I honestly like all 3 of our running backs quite a bit.
But you see my point. Every player you keep on the roster is a player you cut. Every guy that is active is a guy that isn't. Every guy you give the carries to is a guy that doesn't get the carries. When you ask me questions from the standpoint of "do we have enough negative evidence to downgrade"...you have to keep in mind that you've ALREADY downgraded the guy behind him, and perhaps you never even asked yourself why that's OK.
It's because Miller showed his bare *** on TV in the background. That's a ten yard roughing the viewer penalty on Miller 'cause he wasn't being aware of the camera angles. C'mon guys, big picture...
LOL. What's great is that given the public persona that Hard Knocks gave Joe Philbin with respect to cursing and pieces of trash and whatnot, I could totally see that Joe Philbin benching Lamar Miller for public indecency.
