Philbin's Poor Body Language and Communication: A Brief Analysis

would you please critique Ireland?

 

Steinbach was/is a pro. Period. Philbin said he had tremendous respect for him. Told him that to his face. Philbin was very relaxed, open and did not interrupt Steinbach. Philbin is not like that with others because a player has to earn his respect. He was very calm and very professional with Ireland when they discussed Vonte Davis. Is Philbin a little rough around the edges? Yes he is. Will he get respect? Yes he will. Every situation being analyzed here is a situation that by nature was uncomfortable, Chad, Vonte, Chad (2) throw in the cameras and you have what we see.

Does it come off as awkward, yep, does it mean anything other then Philbin is uncomfortable with the cameras being present,(not sure). Philbin really doesn't know any of the players that well to interact with them like they are buddies. In addition being distant is probably intentional. This keeps the player at a distance and maintains the level of respect that needs to be there.

 

I watched two 1-hour Football Life shows like this last year. NFL Films exclusively followed Belichick during the 2009 season. It was unprecidented access.

He is actually quite engaging and direct dealing with players. Nothing like the disinterested vanilla he serves the media in press conferences.

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Very reasonable and logical write up. Many of these elements are covered in manager training courses for a reason. Having said that, I seriously question how many head cOaches in the NFL present themselves according to your criteria. Especially new head coaches that are still getting used to the new team

 

I think it is ridiculous to give an analysis of a person's coaching skills and or how successful they will be, by the little bit of edited video tape that you see. They condense probably thousands of hours of video into about a 50 minute final version. A version that they want you to see.
Everyone has a different coaching style and a different way to communicate with their players. Obviously, Tony Dungy had a different style than Jimmy Johnson. To give a more believable hypothesis, I would think you would need to study several NFL coaches, winners and losers. And also need to witness it first hand, rather by an edited video tape.

 

This is all right on target IMO.

 

But this is evidence for me of his appropriately having a different style with players at this point in his tenure, given the dynamics of the situation he's in, not of something that's a weakness or a deficiency on his part.

 

All what your saying is of course well documented and does apply to a lot of situations. It is also documented that Philbin himself, backed by several assistants, says you either buy in to his philosophies or you will be playing somewhere else. Philbin is not out to make friends and treats this as a business. That's why if you don't conduct yourself as a professional you will be cut or traded. Professionals do the things others do not. Like taking care of their bodies in the off season and not coming into camp out of shape. What do you think would happen if you worked for a huge law firm and showed up to court unprepared and lost your case. Ya might do that a couple of times and then you would be in the unemployment line.

Philbin may not articulate well but he does know the atmosphere it takes to build a winning franchise. "You either buy in or you don't"

 

I think this is a good point, and my take on Philbin is that he delegates the close, bonded relationships with players to his assistants, while he takes on more of an "overseer" role himself. I don't think this reflects a weakness on Philbin's part, but rather his belief of how the structure of a team should operate.

Michael Irvin once commented on how the Dallas Cowboys dynasty teams of the early 90s were characterized by very special relationships between the players and the assistants.

 

The "mirroring" stuff is straight out of Tony Robbins 101, right?


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It seems as though Philbin is really calling some shots here, for Ireland to be open with that and executing this strategy to find better mentally equipped players, that's what we want out of any GM and coach..

If that's the case, then why not confront the team, and let it be known? In, or out.

 

Yup, I absolutely respect what he was tring to convey in that forum..Sherman too.

 

I could watch Belicek teach all day.

 

Great thread..

 

The team usually reflects the head coach's personality...So are we screwed in that dept.?

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On the contrary. Disciplined, hardworking and detail oriented players are exactly what the doctor ordered.

 

I think they're smart enough to know, and if they aren't, they probably aren't the right material.

 

Great post.

To the first bolded paragraph I would add, D) leaders among the players who have bought in to the system and hold the other players accountable to their jobs.

To the second bolded paragraph I would add that this is why the team needs to extend Reggie Bush at the first sign that his play last year wasn't a flash in the pan. A long-term contract he's happy with would probably get him on board in the way you're suggesting, and also make him a guy who satisfies my "D" criterion above.

 

Because "Smart, tough, disciplined" players don't fall into that category?

 

you're still dancing around my point. You even summarized it and you are dancing around it lol. I'm not arguing semantics. It is what it is. You are arguing something that is part of the corporate world, only has minor things in common with it. Even if we just take that to mean communication. That's still a pretty broad brush you are painting with.

 

Belicheck is a better listener. He soaks up football knowledge and what his players tell him. That aspect of him is being ignored.

 

or he just knows his coaches better since they are who he 1) worked with on a daily basis 2) he hired them or helped hire them so they more then likely have known him for awhile.

 

it's actually an interesting post if people will stop pretending like its an indictment of philbin and not just some observations.

 

I don't think we're ready to close the book on Joe Philbin in that regard, based on our exposure to his first few weeks of training camp in his first year as a head coach.