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Stallworth being brought in today for a workout...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CANEPHINS, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    If they were to grab Blanchard IMO it would not be to replace Devlin. It would be because they're thinking of trading off Matt Moore to whomever bids highest. And that doesn't necessarily mean they'll keep Blanchard on the roster, either. He could go on practice squad while Tannehill and Devlin are the two QBs on the roster. Every team needs a 3rd whether it be on roster or practice squad.

    David Garrard would be cut prior to Week 1 but the team would know that at any point this season they could give him a call and he'll know the offense, have chemistry with our players, and be ready to go. I don't imagine anyone out there snapping him up as soon as we cut him.

    That's probably how I would attack things, anyway.

    1. Cut Garrard, make sure he knows that (so long as no other team comes calling) we'll look at bringing him back on at some point during the season
    2. Trade Matt Moore for whatever you can get
    3. Find a practice arm to be on the practice squad.
     
  2. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  3. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    At this point I think any GM Ireland talks to is probably smelling blood.
     
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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's saying to Ireland that "Jones is your #1 as soon as I trade him, 2nd round Jeff."
     
  5. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You guys can say what you will about Ireland's talent evaluation skills or his interpersonal skills, but he's a shark in wheeling and dealing.
     
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  6. canesz06

    canesz06 Well-Known Member

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    So, if they sign Stallworth or Burress, what will the guys who praised Ireland/Philbin for getting rid of Marshall/Johnson because they werent "high character guys" They should have just kept Marshall if thats the case. Imagine, Marshall, Bess, hartline and Johnson. Ahh, what could have been.
     
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  7. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Stallworth made one really ****ty decision. Brandon Marshall is a walking time bomb. Stallworth has another human beings life on his conscience and for all we know could be a great guy. Brandon Marshall is....a time bomb.

    It isnt the same at all.
     
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  8. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    He's also likely saying I drafted Jones in the 3rd round and he's a more valuable football player now than when I drafted him.
     
  9. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    Yes, he is. I'm just saying other GM's are going to sense our desperation, and they're working from an area of strength. Jeff's probably going to have to really be a shark to get something done at a reasonable price.
     
  10. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I don't doubt it, but that's the one area I'm confident Ireland will get us the best that is possible to get.
     
  11. jsizzle

    jsizzle Banned

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    Who else fears that Jones could be another in a long line of failed Dolphins WRs who had success with another team, but really weren't studs here? Like Marty Booker, or Lamar Thomas, or Bert Emmanuel.
     
  12. jsizzle

    jsizzle Banned

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    I think he must feel his job depends on it!
     
  13. gandalfin

    gandalfin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Not as likely because he would be playing in basically the same system.
     
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  14. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    How about Cris Carter and David Boston?

    By the way, sadly, Lamar Thomas had his best seasons with the Dolphins. He was downright horrible in Tampa.
     
  15. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Not with a rookie QB. Last thing you want is TO chirping in a rookie QB's ear when he is unhappy. If Moore or Garrard were the QB....bring T.O. in now!

    Main reason he isn't in Seattle wasn't because they didn't think he couldn't play. It was because they knew they were going with Wilson and didn't want him with a rookie QB.
     
  16. djphinfan

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    I agree, but it's not enough..

    There's reports out of green bay camp that Jones has looked like the 2 nd best receiver,he supposedly in the "best condition of his career", Thompson will not give him to us for less than a third imo.
     
  17. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    It's just the opposite. And this is where I feel Jeff is weak in his trade negotiations. He's strong from a position of power. But he's weak from a position of weakness. And what I mean by that is he'll be such a stickler for value that nothing will get done. And before you know it, the great rescue acquisition is...(drum roll please)...Donte Stallworth (fart noise).
     
  18. canesz06

    canesz06 Well-Known Member

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    Stallworth got behind the wheel drunk and KILLED somebody and you think Marshall is worse? How about Johnson, is he worse to?
     
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  19. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    That's the question, though. Do you see Jones as a (possible) #1? If you do, then ship that 2nd away. If you don't, then his price tag is probably too hefty for what's essentially a panic buy anyway.
     
  20. Rouk

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    No point of arguing with the B Marsh haters they pinned all of last seasons failures on him
     
  21. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I think that if you're trading Moore with the intention of keeping Devlin as your backup, you might just be looking at a veteran mutiny.
     
  22. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    James Jones is not a number one option. I can't believe we would give up a second round pick for him! That would be crazy. I honestly rather just watch the crappy guys we have if James friggin Jones is the best we can do. Mike Wallace should be the target yet he wont be.
     
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  23. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Well, there arent going to be any answers out there in FA...
     
  24. GMJohnson

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    That'd be nice. Our WR group could go from chicken shizz to soup sandwich with a move like that. If we move the picks we got for Vontae for Bowe or Wallace on top of a 4th/5th for Jones then we'd be looking at Wallace or Bowe-Jones-Bess-Gates-Hartline which is a pretty decent group.
     
  25. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Maybe. I'm not sure I see it though. Not when Moore is just the backup. If that was REALLY the case, I think the mutiny would've occurred more centered around the decision to bench Moore and start the rookie QB. But everyone publicly and privately actually seems pretty happy with that decision.
     
  26. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    We shouldn't waste any draft picks at this point there going to be worth too much with the way the season is looking. Mike Wallace is going to cost you what might turn into a top 5 pick and a huge mega $$ deal. Why wouldn't you wait a year and take the best wr from college on rookie pay scale makes no sense to me. They decided they didn't want Marshall on this team and dug there own grave for the year we gotta deal with it and rebuild properly at this point.
     
  27. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    The metaphor I used elsewhere is if Brian Hartline comes back healthy and the Dolphins acquire James Jones then the wide receivers unit goes from Holocaust bad to just Spanish Inquisition bad.
     
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  28. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Aye, because they know that if the rookie blows, there's still Matt Moore (who, by all accounts, is one of the most respected guys in the locker room) to pull his mid season magic and earn them some wins (not to say some incentives). Take away that security blanket and I think you're looking at some serious trouble with an already not too pleased veteran group.
     
  29. Fin D

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    I agree with that. I also think that's why they'll keep Garrard on the new mini-IR thing.
     
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  30. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Because Mike Wallace is the real deal while rookie wideouts have a certain tendancy to go busto. The issue will probably boil down to money; we don't have it. And even if we manage to make salary cap room for Wallace, it'd mean that we can't extend Long or Bush.
     
  31. 0pp

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    i betcha roy williams is on that list and maybe plax
     
  32. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
     
  33. Stringer Bell

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    I would not give up more than a 4th for Jones.
     
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  34. Desides

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    I wish that, for once, they would get pissed at their own inability to play well.
     
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  35. MikeHoncho

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    Juan Huron is still there, astonishingly
     
  36. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    No, he's not. Didn't you hear? He had a race with Halley's Comet and isn't expected back until 2061.
     
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  37. VanDolPhan

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    Sounds about right but Thompson is a tough negotiator. It may take throwing in that conditional 6th we got from Indy.
     
  38. Rouk

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    Hmm I think me and you just disagree on Mike Wallace overall then I don't think hes worth the huge money and a top 5 pick
     
  39. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Can't talk about Mike Wallace if the Steelers are adamant. We also have a crapload of cap room next offseason and removed a future cap obstacle in Davis.
     
  40. Vendigo

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    I don't think he'd command a top 5, either. I think PIT will let him go for a 2nd + X eventually.
     

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