To know what we may get in return for Vontae, here are the 2nd round picks from 2008-2012 who went between the 6th and 16th pick in that round. Why between the 6th and 19th picks? Because those are the most likely parameters for the Colts, who have a .500 strength of schedule and will likely fall between 4 and 9 wins. 2012 Draft PICK TEAM PLAYER POS HT WT COLLEGE GRADE 6(38) Jaguars Branch, Andre DE 6'4" 259 Clemson 86.5 7(39) Rams (From Redskins) Jenkins, Janoris CB 5'10" 193 North Alabama 86.0 8(40) Panthers Silatolu, Amini T 6'4" 311 Midwestern St. 83.7 9(41) Bills Glenn, Cordy T 6'5" 345 Georgia 88.0 10(42) Dolphins Martin, Jonathan OT 6'5" 312 Stanford 87.0 11(43) Jets (From Seahawks) Hill, Stephen WR 6'4" 215 Georgia Tech 86.0 12(44) Chiefs Allen, Jeff OT 6'4" 307 Illinois 82.5 13(45) Bears (From Cowboys through Rams) Jeffery, Alshon WR 6'4" 230 South Carolina 84.0 14(46) Eagles Kendricks, Mychal ILB 5'11" 239 California 79.7 15(47) Seahawks (From Jets) Wagner, Bobby ILB 6'0" 233 Utah St. 84.7 16(48) Patriots (From Raiders) Wilson, Tavon FS 6'0" 205 Illinois 48.2 2011 - ROUND 2 SEL # TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 38 Arizona Cardinals Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech 39 Tennessee Titans Akeem Ayers LB UCLA 40 Dallas Cowboys Bruce Carter LB North Carolina 41 Washington Redskins Jarvis Jenkins DE Clemson 42 Houston Texans Brooks Reed LB Arizona 43 Minnesota Vikings Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame 44 Detroit Lions Titus Young WR Boise State 45 Denver Broncos Rahim Moore DB UCLA 46 Denver Broncos Orlando Franklin T Miami (Fla.) 47 St. Louis Rams Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin 48 Oakland Raiders Stefen Wisniewski C Penn State 2010 - ROUND 2 SEL # TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 38 Cleveland Browns T.J. Ward SS Oregon 39 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Arrelious Benn WR Illinois 40 Miami Dolphins Koa Misi OLB Utah 41 Buffalo Bills Torell Troup DT Central Florida 42 New England Patriots Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona 43 Baltimore Ravens Sergio Kindle LB Texas 44 Oakland Raiders Lamarr Houston DE Texas 45 Denver Broncos Zane Beadles G Utah 46 New York Giants Linval Joseph DT East Carolina 47 Arizona Cardinals Daryl Washington ILB Texas Christian 48 Carolina Panthers Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame 2009 - ROUND 2 SEL # TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 38 Cincinnati Bengals Rey Maualuga LB USC 39 Jacksonville Jaguars Eben Britton T Arizona 40 New England Patriots Ron Brace DT Boston College 41 New England Patriots Darius Butler DB Connecticut 42 Buffalo Bills Jairus Byrd DB Oregon 43 Carolina Panthers Everette Brown DE Florida State 44 Miami Dolphins Pat White QB West Virginia 45 New York Giants Clint Sintim LB Virginia 46 Houston Texans Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati 47 Oakland Raiders Mike Mitchell DB Ohio U. 48 Denver Broncos Darcel McBath DB Texas Tech 2008 - ROUND 2 SEL # TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 37 Atlanta Falcons Curtis Lofton MLB Oklahoma 38 Seattle Seahawks John Carlson TE Notre Dame 39 San Francisco 49ers Chilo Rachal G USC 40 New Orleans Saints Tracy Porter CB Indiana 41 Buffalo Bills James Hardy WR Indiana 42 Denver Broncos Eddie Royal WR Virginia Tech 43 Minnesota Vikings Tyrell Johnson FS Arkansas State 44 Chicago Bears Matt Forte RB Tulane 45 Detroit Lions Jordon Dizon OLB Colorado 46 Cincinnati Bengals Jerome Simpson WR Coastal Carolina 47 Philadelphia Eagles Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame This chart gives you a clear idea of which positions tend to be available/great value at those spots in the draft. It shows that WR and DE are both positions that strongly fit that area of the draft (these two pie wedges are split out from the rest of the graph, with WR in green and DE in dark red). In fact, despite LB being the best position to pick in that range of the second round, WR follows a close second. Our biggest needs are WR and another pass rushing DE. Well, those two positions account for 22% of all positions drafted in the 38-48 overall pick range, where our 'Vontae' pick will most likely fall. in short, this draft pick is very likely to let us grab a talented WR or DE.
I would trade a Vontae Davis for a Rob Gronkowski or a Koa Misi any day. The attitude he's had seemed like he believed himself "elite" no matter how he played...
This chart gives you a clear idea of which positions tend to be available/great value at those spots in the draft. It shows that WR (13%) and DE (9%) are both positions that strongly fit that area of the draft. In fact, despite LB being the best position to pick in that range of the second round, WR follows a close second. Our biggest needs are WR and another pass rushing DE. Well, those two positions account for 22% of all positions drafted in the 38-48 overall pick range, where our 'Vontae' pick will most likely fall. in short, this draft pick is very likely to let us grab a talented WR or DE.
Looking at that chart more, this pick also gives us a lot of flexibility with our LBs if we decide to trade Dansby at some point. LB-WR-DE are all prime positions to fill with that pick, at that level in the draft, and get great value.
If Ireland is picking, we'll probably get the next James Hardy, so we have that going for us, which is nice...
I always think of that every single time I look at that draft. It is the only thing I think about when I do, in fact. Just incredible. A TE who, barring injury, has the potential to be one of the greatest in NFL history. Just incredible. Aside from that - it is a Great list of players. But there is an additional value here. We also have two picks that are very likely to fall within that slot and that gives a tremendous added flexibility to move around in that area as well as get into the top 5 of the round if we want. And, just imagine if we were able to get a player like a Pat White? What a boon that would be ...
Thanks Barry. Looks like a lot of impact players on that list. It's also a good spot to draft a talented safety.
my only hope is that Ireland isn't here to make these picks. you think trading Vontae for a 2nd was bad, wait till Ireland blows that 2nd pick on yet another sorry player, adding to his fine list of Jonathan Martin, Daniel Thomas, Misi, Pat White, Henne, and Merling.
This trade makes us a better team down the road. The staff had determined that Vontae wasnt for them, and now we'll have a talented young player on the roster when Vontaes contract would have been long expired. Another solid trade by the GM, unloading a problem for value in the draft.
